Kieran. 6,317 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 No, just no. He was good a in the 2010/11 but no where near as good atm.Wondering if Hutch can provide the back-up for Bane though.Yeah because when a 19 year old suffers a dip in form, he's terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Yeah because when a 19 year old suffers a dip in form, he's terrible. He's 20 now and the whole year he's stagnated hugely. Also the Croatian league is really weak, you've seen Dinamo in the CL (the worst team ever to take part in it, statistically speaking). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelsPrad2000 10 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Well, may be we all want to see a player like Ramires starting for us every match. But can we see him in the starting line up this season? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamboUSA 0 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Well, may be we all want to see a player like Ramires starting for us every match. But can we see him in the starting line up this season? I don't think so.He was such a spark to us this year, we need him at least at DM next to Mikel. If we land Hulk we definitely need to be playing something like a 4-2-3-1 and hopefully Ramires can fit in at the 2, although he was awesome as RW last season under RDM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelsPrad2000 10 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Don't think he will fit in a double pivot. Lampard and Mikel will keep the positions. Those positions need good passers. Harshly, Ramires isn't a better passer than either of them, and not even Meireles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamboUSA 0 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Don't think he will fit in a double pivot. Lampard and Mikel will keep the positions. Those positions need good passers. Harshly, Ramires isn't a better passer than either of them, and not even Meireles.Yeah he definitely has to improve on his passing this offseason. Lampard, and it hurts to say this, is getting to the point where we are going to have someone to fill his spot quite a bit during the busy season. Hate to see Ramires dropped to a bench role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelsPrad2000 10 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 What I was saying, is Ramires and Hulk can play together. But not Torres. Ramires right-shuttler. Hulk up front. Hazard and Mata behind him. I don't want to see that key double-pivot duo changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 If we want to play Ramires and Hulk together then we must either play 4 3 3 or change to a totally different lineup where we'll play 3 defenders at the back and use Cole/Bertrand and Ramires for the out wide roles.The latter could happen if Pep takes over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelsPrad2000 10 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 If we want to play Ramires and Hulk together then we must either play 4 3 3 or change to a totally different lineup where we'll play 3 defenders at the back and use Cole/Bertrand and Ramires for the out wide roles.The latter could happen if Pep takes over.Yeah, I know what you are talking about. Napoli plays with the latter formation. In that case, the formation becomes 3-4-3. Maybe the widemen of that 4, will be occupied by wingbacks. But selecting the CMs here are a different ask too. Because their roles will be different than that of the Double pivot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goke 26 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 don't see Lampard starting over Ramires.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Well, may be we all want to see a player like Ramires starting for us every match. But can we see him in the starting line up this season? I don't think so.i dont see why not.cechiva(hutch) luiz(cahill) terry cole (bert)mikel(romeu)/lamp(raul)rambo(danny) mata(marin) hazard(kdb)torres(lukaku/danny)still have not included yossi,kakuta, josh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 --------------Torres---------------------Hazard--------Hulk-------------------------------------------------------------------Mata-----------------------Lampard------Ramires------A.Cole------------------------Ivanovic-----------J.Terry---Luiz----------------------------------Cech----------------------Would be my first choice and formation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelsPrad2000 10 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 don't see Lampard starting over Ramires....If we play a double pivot, we should start Lampard. He lacks all that energy and stamina of Ramires, but still his range of passing and distributing is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnmontero 78 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I HONESTLY don't want Hulk signing for us we need to promote players from the academy for the sake of the club's future. The answer can't be always BUY BUY BUY.Sadly a lot of Chelsea fans I have see have this mentality and that is because they're more concerned about playing Fifa 13 with "good ranked" players than what it's actually good for the club.Regarding Ramires... I don't actually see where he fits if it's not in the attacking half of the middle field. Maybe he will become a rotation player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelsPrad2000 10 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 --------------Torres---------------------Hazard--------Hulk-------------------------------------------------------------------Mata-----------------------Lampard------Ramires------A.Cole------------------------Ivanovic-----------J.Terry---Luiz----------------------------------Cech----------------------Would be my first choice and formationCahill over Luiz, with his current form, mate. Think we have got a new Riccy in Gary. Reliable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelsPrad2000 10 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I HONESTLY don't want Hulk signing for us we need to promote players from the academy for the sake of the club's future. The answer can't be always BUY BUY BUY.Sadly a lot of Chelsea fans I have see have this mentality and that is because they're more concerned about playing Fifa 13 with "good ranked" players than what it's actually good for the club.Regarding Ramires... I don't actually see where he fits if it's not in the attacking half of the middle field. Maybe he will become a rotation player.I don't play FIFA mate. last time I played it, that was back in 2007. But yes, we need Hulk anyway. Good forward and hitman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnmontero 78 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I don't play FIFA mate. last time I played it, that was back in 2007. But yes, we need Hulk anyway. Good forward and hitman.We don't need Hulk actually, we have Daniel Sturridge, Kevin de Bruyne, Gael Kakuta (can play on the right side a la Robben), Ramires and Marin. I think the club needs to grow with the young ones instead of always neglecting them for mid/late twenty year olds with some sort of fame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 We need to build a squad, a squad that means we don't have to play the same players every week like Man City, they won the league because they had great players to come in when they were getting injuries/suspensions. Rami can play as a defensive midfielder or an attacking midfielder and i think it's more than likely that he will be next to Mikel next season as Lampard will have to play less eventually. If however we don't sign Hulk, he will be on the right of the 3 behind the striker. At the end of the day, we need competition for places, we're in 7 tournaments next season so we could be playing the best part of 70 matches. And when there is fierce competition, the players will have to be at the top of their game which means we'll be a lot better off for it. We don't want players getting too comfortable and taking their places for granted. Ramires can play RM/CDMMata can play anywhere along the 3 behind the striker as can HazardHulk (If signed) can play RM or STWe have lots of options, if we sign Hulk, it will be a great headache to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Back to his previous position in central midfield. His energy, pace, tenacity, stamina and work rate would be vital in that midfield if we are to field the attacking for of 'Hazard-Mata-Hulk-Torres'. However, in the big games especially away from home, he could be used as a defensive winger on either flank to deal with the attacking fullback and/or winger like how he has done under RDM and would be extremely useful on the counter with his energy and pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I HONESTLY don't want Hulk signing for us we need to promote players from the academy for the sake of the club's future. The answer can't be always BUY BUY BUY.Sadly a lot of Chelsea fans I have see have this mentality and that is because they're more concerned about playing Fifa 13 with "good ranked" players than what it's actually good for the club.Regarding Ramires... I don't actually see where he fits if it's not in the attacking half of the middle field. Maybe he will become a rotation player.what??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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