The_Flash 1,144 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Luiz is brilliant, one mistake Get a life, silva what a tit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 i concede on hummels. he is error prone. also people should stop making mountain out of mole hills here. Could give that piece of advice to yourself.I don't know how anyone could slate Luiz for supposedly being a liability yet at the same time thinks Hummels is WC. That's really funny. luz in the other hand makes amateurish mistakes in the game and it seems after a long- spell, he is returning to that error prone self againYou seriously can't be disregarding Luiz's consistent performances over almost a whole season and then say Luiz is back to being "error prone" because hasn't been as good over a span of 5 or 6 games. That again, is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 He has been brilliant anyone who thinks otherwise can **** right off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 whats the point of a great performance after giving away a goal? the everton goal was a poor mistake, an amateurish mistake of trying to steal the ball with mikel and schurlle around the everton player and then leaving his position. the everton goal was his mistake.the norwich goal is a bad example of what i want to say. luiz giftts goal to the opposition. the norich goal was an acceptable mistake where he probably dint expect the ball from van wolsddjsdjsh (whatever). and so he was a second slower to react. but the everton goal and today's goal are literal gifts to the opposition which adds even more pressure to an already extremely pressurised MID. also how does seling luiz to barca for 35 frigging million become such a TABOO that u r reacting this way. for 35 mil we can probably get hummels+subotic.also u r reacting as if luiz is irreplacable or something, i dont think thats the case in any way. 1st - stupid argument, maybe to avoid suffering a goal again?2nd - 35M is basically Hummels' release clause, so no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Not a good game from David today, but it happens. His first proper bad game in a long time for us. He'll put it behind him though. Onwards and upwards.Very bad game, yeah, but it's his first bad game for us since last December! And now everyone on social media and even some of the experts are saying that he's had an "awful start to the season" after ONE bad game What these two men said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 What these two men said...You lost your credibility when you called Choulo a man CHOULO19 and Rmpr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 He has had a poor start in the league. He's only had 2 tackles in 4 games compared to 12 fouls committed. He's won 52% of his duels which compares poorly to Terry's 69% and Cahill 79%. He's been dribbled by the other team 5 times in 4 games. Cahill and Terry have been dribbled by a combined 4 times in 12 games. He's won a total of 3 headers. Cahill has won 18. Terry has won 31. That is an insane difference. Terry has 59 clearances, Cahill has 21 and Luiz has 11. Across the board, his numbers have stunk this year. Squwaka and whoscored both have Luiz as easily our worst defender in the league this season and our worst or second worst player overall along with Torres. And yes, numbers can be misleading but when they're that bad (Wilian has as many tackles as Luiz..., 3 won headers in 4 games for a 6 foot 2 central defender?? That's embarrassing ) there's really no argument.That said, we've seen enough of Luiz over the years to know that he is a very good defender (and he's been very good in the CL so far) and a poor few games isn't going to change that. People always tend to overreact to a bad stretch of games when you have a vastly more important sample size that says something else. He should probably sit next game but Chelsea is generally a better team when he's in the starting XI. I dont know if its related with the fact you are from Canada, and people from anglo-saxon america do love stats, stats and more stats. Football is not a game about stats. Cahill is a very poor defender, and its clear for everyone who have a clue about the game, thats why Mourinho said yesterday that Luiz and JT are ahead of Cahill right now, and dont expect that to change for the rest of the season. Barbara, Strike and Rmpr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 ^^^^^ HAHAHHAHAHAHHA... and people say, the media makes up stuff!!! HILARIOUS... "one of our best players today"- LOLMAX...One of our best players today, no doubt about it, despite the mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJames 729 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Made a mistake today but tried his best to make it up. He gave us the advantage on several occasions and even created two chances for himself to score so coming off International break I'm not going to be too upset by his performance today. It was a silly mistake to make though.... Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 He was due a moment like that. Has cut down on those lapses of concentration. Very casual with his passing though. That is something he can work on. Just gave the ball away 2-3 times when under no pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Could give that piece of advice to yourself.I don't know how anyone could slate Luiz for supposedly being a liability yet at the same time thinks Hummels is WC. That's really funny.You seriously can't be disregarding Luiz's consistent performances over almost a whole season and then say Luiz is back to being "error prone" because hasn't been as good over a span of 5 or 6 games. That again, is ridiculous."all i wanted to say is said we could have bought 2 WC center-backs with 35mil. the first example that came to my mind was hummels-subotic (as they were , for me, the best CB pairing last season). but people have discarded all the other iportant points that i made before and after but have concentrated on these 2 names for some weird reason (who were just instinctive names). " how conviniently did u not read the main part of my post. but yes, do carry on the hummels-thing do defend luiz. over a whole season? luiz was good just was the 2nd half of the season.but which position - CDM. no one here is debating his class. his ease on the ball and his general ball-play, which is absolutely brillaint. but for a CB- he is a disaster waiting to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 One of our best players today, no doubt about it, despite the mistake.yes... definitely one of the best players. probably 14th best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Hummels and Subotic are so much error prone. Cringe worthy that Luiz is getting so much stick for a mistake. Let's get rid of Cech, Terry, Cole, Lampard, Luiz, Mikel. Bloody hell Hazard has been poor until the Cardiff game. FUCKING GET RID OF HIM AND BRING BACK JOE COLE ! They all make mistakes right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 1st - stupid argument, maybe to avoid suffering a goal again?2nd - 35M is basically Hummels' release clause, so nogive away a stupid goal like he did against everton and then perform brilliantly, i would rather take just a good solid performance of not making a mistake and just doing the needful. its not a stupid argument. its a fact. defenders' life is not easy. 89 minutes and 59 seconds of out-of the -world play can go to crap if u do something stupid in the remaining 1 second. cos it will always lead to a goal.this is the 3rd time i am posting this particular part"all i wanted to say is said we could have bought 2 WC center-backs with 35mil. the first example that came to my mind was hummels-subotic (as they were , for me, the best CB pairing last season). but people have discarded all the other iportant points that i made before and after but have concentrated on these 2 names for some weird reason (who were just instinctive names). " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 well all i know is that, he has cost us atleast 3 points this season already(everton game), could have cost us another 2/3 today with his "defending" if u can call that. as for -1, i was really being generous.No way..our strikers should take half the blame for the Everton game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Most of the facebook fan page user's are clueless buffon's anyway, it's like reading post's from that biite member but 10 times worse, i remember one person said a couple of years back we should start an unfit Alex for our do or die clash against Valencia in the CL to give him a farewell.What's worse is nearly 300 people liked it as clearly showed in some comments in this very thread, you don't need to go to FB.I fail to see how Luiz 'continuously' fails us as said by others here. I see him being flawless in many consecutive matches and no f**** being given here (let alone in social medias and English media) and when he does an individual mistake (like today) or when he's part of a collective mistake (like Everton) he's crucified as if he was the worst CB ever.There are some things that I simply give up. Expect people making sense of Luiz and valuing him for what he is (an amazing defender - albeit one that can definitely improve) is one of those. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 At some games Luiz performed well, but occasionally he blunders badly.If Mandala in bought in January, Luiz should be sold, in my opinion. If he continues to make these school boy´s mistakes, & he will, it won´t sit well with Jose. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 oh!!! we must have seen different everton vs chelsea and norwich vs chelsea games. also on a very very different side note, u actually believe luiz is worth 35mil? hazard was 32 mil, mata was 23, ozil is 42 and luiz is 35!!!!!!????The Everton and Norwich goals were collective fault's were numerous players were at fault, one of them being Luiz.Everton our whole team were dragged out of position pretty much which started from one of our attacking midfielders failing to close down space and the Norwich goal was a 3 way fuck up between Ivanovic for not closing down the cross and both Terry and Luiz for getting beaten in the air (they won't be the first defenders to lose out to Van Wolfswinkel and Pilkington).You are being well, well to harsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 wow... luiz has been outperforming the CL finalists darkhorses. also i would say one of the best CB pair in the world, right now!!! (cant think of any other better) They didn't win their CL final tho did they?Luiz did.While you mention it Subotic and Hummels both fucked up for Robben's winner, and did you see Hummels mistake against Real Madrid that led to Ronaldo's goal? just as bad as what Luiz did today, if not worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 They didn't win their CL final tho did they?Luiz did.While you mention it Subotic and Hummels both fucked up for Robben's winner, and did you see Hummels mistake against Real Madrid that led to Ronaldo's goal? just as bad as what Luiz did today, if not worse."all i wanted to say is said we could have bought 2 WC center-backs with 35mil. the first example that came to my mind was hummels-subotic (as they were , for me, the best CB pairing last season). but people have discarded all the other iportant points that i made before and after but have concentrated on these 2 names for some weird reason (who were just instinctive names). " 5th time i am saying the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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