🇧🇷 David Luiz

[The Mak 4,459]

I think it's the whole Brazilian mentality he seems to have. I mean 'Brazilian' in an attacking/flair sense. It's like he feels like he has to defend with flair or some crap; he tries too hard and forgets the simple things.

He does it every season with us: plays well in the second half of the season, picks up form and then goes off on his holiday to Brazil and comes back with more samba crap at the start of next season.

Hopefully José can smack some sense into him because he has all the tools to become truly world class.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Having one of the worst games of his career today. It is 10 vs 12, basically Brazil vs Uruguay + Luiz!

[robsblubot 3,595]

Having one of the worst games of his career today. It is 10 vs 12, basically Brazil vs Uruguay + Luiz!

it's funny though, Thiago assists for the goal and gets no criticism...

Honestly, it's easy to focus on the CBs when they get no support.

^^ It's the right mentality BTW... we/they've got the titles to support it. But, yes, we could away with the unnecessary wrestling, especially inside the box!

[Jase 43,479]

I don't think Jose himself knows what his plans are atm, he still haven't had a single training session with any of the players yet.

Don't think Mourinho or any other managers for that matter will still be clueless about their plans when pre-season is not far off. He would have already done his homework, thought about his plans and have ideas on what to do already but what's probably certain is, he will give the players (ones that he might have doubts on) chance to prove him wrong and change his plans.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Don't think Mourinho or any other managers for that matter will still be clueless about their plans when pre-season is not far off. He would have already done his homework, thought about his plans and have ideas on what to do already but what's probably certain is, he will give the players (ones that he might have doubts on) chance to prove him wrong and change his plans.

Yes I meant he won't have his plans for Luiz figured out already. Watching players in games is completely different than seeing them in training. He'll have to see him train before he decides on his plans for him.

[Jase 43,479]

Yes I meant he won't have his plans for Luiz figured out already. Watching players in games is completely different than seeing them in training. He'll have to see him train before he decides on his plans for him.

That's pretty much what I meant. He will have an idea of what to do with Luiz (and others) in regards to his plan but there is still time to change that...

(and you should have made clearer the first time if you are talking about Luiz, specifically!)

[CHOULO19 24,332]

That's pretty much what I meant. He will have an idea of what to do with Luiz (and others) in regards to his plan but there is still time to change that...

(and you should have made clearer the first time if you are talking about Luiz, specifically!)

Yes, dear. Whatever you say

[Tomo 21,751]

He slyly pushed Cavani out of the way in that corner

[Special Juan 28,141]

Wonder if he had a little chat with Paulinho when celebrating the goal saying "This much joy in London for Chelsea"

[BlueLyon 9,359]

This guy is good footballer but for a 26 year old CB, he shoud be more mature. Some challenges he makes are completely unecessary and sometimes cuntish (his elbows,...). But more it gets clear is that this guy is not a leader. He isnt mature and calm enough to lead defense. Its not his errors (every cb makes errors) but his personality. Luiz is free minded defender and we will definately need a leader along him. Silva, Kompany,...are great examples. They simply dont joke around. Luiz is mistake prone. He has skill to be great, but his head goes other way. Kind of similar to Pique.

I dont want Luiz to leave or criticise but that is quite true.

[The only place to be 11,313]

He's having a bad game tbh. Worst game he's had in a while. No doubt his detractors will overlook his consistently good form over the whole season and use this game as "proof" that he's rubbish though. Hopefully he picks it up and has a stormer in the 2nd half.

I don't think his 'detractors' think he is rubbish. In fact I think everyone knows just how good David Luiz can be.

But I think his critics and his supporters will both be united in a sense of 'well, that's David'. He can be absolutely phenomenal but if he does something so mind-numbingly stupid as horsecollaring a player in the box, no-one is going to be that surprised. Someone said elsewhere that he makes tackles others don't, and I think that's true. He will close down players and win the ball when other defenders simply wouldn't have the foresight or pace to do so.

What attackers hate about him is what his supporters and teammates must also be slightly wary of - unpredictability.

[bushman 2,043]

Once a while every footballer has a bad game. Luiz had one last night.

Despite of it, Luiz should be part of Chelsea next season, I feel. Certainly, he makes fooling tackles, as seen last night.

I bet, Jose knows what to do with him & soon we will find out.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Why the fuck did he pull Cavani (?) to the ground to give away that penalty, what an idiot he is some of the time.

Things like that, that still make me worry about him as our main CB, you'd expect a 26 year old to not do that sort of things or do it a lot more discretely than what he did it lmao.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Why the fuck did he shirt pull Cavani (?) to the ground to give away that penalty, what an idiot he is some of the time.

Tell you what, if he is given a chance under Jose, Jose will tear him a new arsehole if he carries on like that this season. He won't take under-performing and stupid mistakes, he will be dropped and possibly sold.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Tell you what, if he is given a chance under Jose, Jose will tear him a new arsehole if he carries on like that this season. He won't take under-performing and stupid mistakes, he will be dropped and possibly sold.

Somebody needs to stop him doing stupid shit like that. I mean what is the point doing it that blatantly? Could have cost his team the game had Forlan scored and things went differently.

[Special Juan 28,141]

Somebody needs to stop him doing stupid shit like that. I mean what is the point doing it that blatantly? Could have cost his team the game had Forlan scored and things went differently.

It happens all the time now the tugging of shirts in the box, I just simply do not want to see us doing as we have enough tools to deal with it in our team by defending properly.

See this is the thing with Luiz, it's his consistency level, he hasn't got one. He is either unreal or a complete passenger, and that is one thing Jose must, must work on, and probably will.

Do I worry about Luiz? Yes without doubt, I never know which David Luiz ill turn up.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Tell you what, if he is given a chance under Jose, Jose will tear him a new arsehole if he carries on like that this season. He won't take under-performing and stupid mistakes, he will be dropped and possibly sold.

Here's the funny thing - if that was at Chelsea then you'd expect someone like JT or Lamps to take him to one side and have a quiet word, yet there's talk of him being captain. It's one thing to have passion and fire (and he has that in spades, which is why we love him) but you've got to be smart. Players like Riccy had that nastiness in them, but they were sly little fuckers at the same time.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Tell you what, if he is given a chance under Jose, Jose will tear him a new arsehole if he carries on like that this season. He won't take under-performing and stupid mistakes, he will be dropped and possibly sold.

Luiz rarely under performed with us last season, and you can't say that it's the norm for Luiz to perform badly when he was our best defender plenty of times last season. You shouldn't let one bad performance for Brazil (even though he had a great performance just the game before) cloud your judgement like that.

"If Luiz carries on" - if he does carry on his form for us last season he'll consolidate himself as one of the best defenders in the world (which he already is in my opinion).

[robsblubot 3,595]

Some analysts have been saying that the fact both Luiz and Thiago had bad games was no accident, or merely a bad day. It was a result of what Uruguay proposed, with 3 strong forwarders and a lot of width. Playing behind Marcello and Daniel (especially the former) is an obvious way to cause problems to Brazil.

Now, while I value tremendously a CB that can, on occasion join the middle and bring something different to the plate, I listen to dissident opinions with interest. A pundit, on the radio in southern Brazil said that David Luiz has the restlessness of a midfielder. That he does not have enough patience to way out the play unfolds and needs to be in the action at all times. Part of his aggressiveness I reckon. That is indeed an interesting point, especially if we compare David and Mikel, because I do think Mikel lacks exactly that: restlessness.

However, I still think that the more technically inapt players you've got on your side, less your opponent has to worry about you when you have the football. A team with a very simple and defensive back 4, for example, would then lack the numbers when attacking. To adjust and accommodate the David Luizes, by providing cover, well that's why the manager makes the big bucks.

[Spike 12,049]

My god. My jaw hit the floor. How did he keep that out!?