edenhazard17 281 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Calm down people, he is going nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IliyaDamyanov 43 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 http://i.qkme.me/3pjq8f.jpg Jose said that he will first talk with all the players and give everyone a chance...so this is a bulshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybodyisready 155 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Luiz is over half of the heart and soul of this clubwant to sell our club heroeslmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 He was solid last night against Mexico. That interception from Guardado's cross was vital, absolute beast of an interception, needs to play like that more often though. Hes also broke his nose from what I read, wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Seriously can't wait to see what Mourinho does with him. Nowhere near the "average" defender people call him.Luiz has all the skills to be one of the best in the world. Jose will know what to do to get the best out of him. Just because he can play in the pivot doesn't mean he should. I still think he's best used as a CB, he just needs to know when to take risks and when not to on the defensive end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Luiz is over half of the heart and soul of this club,No. No he's not.He's a great player who has a lot of talent and determination but you are seriously overstating his importance to this club.The great thing about him is that he has talent and great physical tools backed up by a strong mentality that pushes him on. The problem is that that same mentality seems to have the ability to switch off at times, and play a bit too casual. That's what leads to mistakes in my opinion.As for the bid, €45 million is a lot of money and at the moment we're talking about a player in terms of his potential, two and a half years after signing him. We're taking about what Jose could do with him, and that's always going to lead to the club taking any offer for him seriously especially when it so wildly overvalues him.Seriously can't wait to see what Mourinho does with him. But this is the point. You don't seem to have an idea of how good he could be next season and until we do, €45 million is a lot to say no to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Not unsellable by any mean as some make out here, occasionally scores a few brilliant goals but often has at least 1-2 errors in him every matches, some time costly. If we get £40m and Jose don't want him, must be sold. If only he could keep his trait while gaining Thiago Silva's defending ability, he will be the best CB in the world for many years to come. BlueLion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 But this is the point. You don't seem to have an idea of how good he could be next season and until we do, 45 million is a lot to say no to. Yeah, 45m is a lot of money, I'm not going to lie - but I have no desire in selling one of our top players whom we should be building the squad around - we're not a selling club. On the flip side, you don't even know how good Mourinho can make him but history tells us that Mourinho can turn him into a great player and I'd definitely take that over money. Like you said in the Cavani thread - football is not just about buying the best players for huge money - it's about the bonds you make with a player, how the player affiliates with the club etc... You can apply the same theory to us selling Luiz. Would you take a 30m offer for Lukaku because we don't exactly know how good Mourinho will make him? It's ridiculous to sell a player off because he *might* not get better. Jase, Amblève. and LDN Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 No way we should sell Luiz; he's regarded as one of the best centre backs in the world nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 had an absolute stormer last night for Brazil - easily their best player...\selling him could be a bad move...Although I did like that tall Mexican defender - built like a brick shit house and always there to close down - he looks a good player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Was unbelievable last night. Theres a reason why they favourite him over the incredible Dante.I'll be so gutted if we'll sell him... i actually cant wait to see him with the armband arount his arm...only after JT's retirement off course. I reckon he's a big part of our future. haranr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Yeah, 45m is a lot of money, I'm not going to lie - but I have no desire in selling one of our top players whom we should be building the squad around - we're not a selling club.On the flip side, you don't even know how good Mourinho can make him but history tells us that Mourinho can turn him into a great player and I'd definitely take that over money. Like you said in the Cavani thread - football is not just about buying the best players for huge money - it's about the bonds you make with a player, how the player affiliates with the club etc... You can apply the same theory to us selling Luiz.Would you take a 30m offer for Lukaku because we don't exactly know how good Mourinho will make him? It's ridiculous to sell a player off because he *might* not get better.Lukaku is a player on the way up who has shown an exemplary attitude in his short time at this club BUT a £30 million offer would definitely have to be considered partly because that's more than his true market worth at this point in time. I personally would choose not to because I believe he definitely will get better, with or without Mourinho's guidance.I don't definitively know that about Luiz. I love certain parts of Luiz's character, but he does sometimes switch-off. If he can eliminate those moments and basically grow up a little bit then it's a lot harder to sell him but €45 million is a lot to say no to, and it might also be a lot for Real Madrid to say no to if we went after Varane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 SunSport Now @SunSportNow Chelsea and Brazil defender David Luiz will undergo surgery on a broken nose after the conclusion of the Confederations Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 man this whole ``switching off`` :cfc: thing with Luiz is so overrated even some of the worlds greatest defenders had moments where they switched off and I`m talking before age crept in and most stayed with their clubs until retirement.. The offer is fantastic but not to be considered why sell someone who other teams rate so highly when we don`t actually need the funds we are not bolton we have a budget.. Luiz has consisently gotten better since he arrived here and now we underrate his contributions to the team.. and like someone said before luiz is part of the new spine of this team lets face it the old guard are being put out to pasture one at a time and some have gone as far as said can see him being the captain of the team.. if that doesn`t scream spine of the team then I dunno what does..All in all Luiz must stay if you all really still want us to play attractive football out the back and build our own identity in world football that people will call the Chelsea Way!! The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I can understand when others who don't watch Chelsea regularly go on about how Luiz is a liability and makes a couple big mistakes every game because that's the reputation he's gotten, but when even Chelsea fans claim the same it shocks me a bit. Luiz was our BEST CB this past season, and this isn't an opinion, it's a FACT!And, even if someone bids 40M for him, why would you sell your best CB? Teams like Swansea etc. sell their best CB not Chelsea. You sell Luiz as he's reaching his prime, what precedent are you setting? Damn sure, people like Hazard, KDB, Oscar will bring it up if they ever want to leave. Tomo and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I can understand when others who don't watch Chelsea regularly go on about how Luiz is a liability and makes a couple big mistakes every game because that's the reputation he's gotten, but when even Chelsea fans claim the same it shocks me a bit. Luiz was our BEST CB this past season, and this isn't an opinion, it's a FACT!He absolutely was our best CB last season. That doesn't mean he can't switch-off at times though. And, even if someone bids 40M for him, why would you sell your best CB? Teams like Swansea etc. sell their best CB not Chelsea. You sell Luiz as he's reaching his prime, what precedent are you setting? Damn sure, people like Hazard, KDB, Oscar will bring it up if they ever want to leave.Utter bollocks mate. No player from any team is off-limits if the money is right. You would sell your best CB if you thought you could use that money to re-invest and make your team better. That's just the way football works. This notion that we aren't a selling club is fucking ridiculous - all clubs sell players, but the criteria varies. The simple fact is not a single person who says we shouldn't sell him is saying that he's the finished article. Everyone inserts the caveat of 'just imagine what Jose can do with him' - that's why he's not what I consider part of our spine yet. He needs to further refine his game, stop taking certain chances and continue to improve, but that's a lot of things to consider when someone possible bids €45 million for a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 He absolutely was our best CB last season. That doesn't mean he can't switch-off at times though. Utter bollocks mate. No player from any team is off-limits if the money is right. You would sell your best CB if you thought you could use that money to re-invest and make your team better. That's just the way football works. This notion that we aren't a selling club is fucking ridiculous - all clubs sell players, but the criteria varies. The simple fact is not a single person who says we shouldn't sell him is saying that he's the finished article. Everyone inserts the caveat of 'just imagine what Jose can do with him' - that's why he's not what I consider part of our spine yet. He needs to further refine his game, stop taking certain chances and continue to improve, but that's a lot of things to consider when someone possible bids €45 million for a player.Don't agree. If Chelsea consider him first choice they won't sell him. Yeah you can re-invest that money and improve other areas but we have the means to improve other areas without SELLING first XI players. The Skipper and Jase 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 He is not leaving don't worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Don't agree. If Chelsea consider him first choice they won't sell him. Yeah you can re-invest that money and improve other areas but we have the means to improve other areas without SELLING first XI players.And it's absolutely silly to create yet more problems for ourselves when the CB area isn't exactly a major area of concern right now. Said it before, selling Luiz would mean we have to buy 2 more quality CBs given how average Terry, Cahill and Ivanovic are right now and the inexperience of the younger ones. Not to mention, there aren't many quality CBs available out there right now and even if their respective club is willing to sell, they will only try to rip us off knowing we are in need of a top notch CB. In the end, we'll probably end up paying the same amount for that CB like we did with Luiz, if not even more. The Skipper, Rubber bullets and blu35_army 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Coming off now....didnt like how he was trying to play through a leg injury... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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