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[Fulham Broadway 16,827]

DONALD Trump is bored of politics and wants to do something else now.

The 70-year-old president-elect spent almost 20 minutes pretending to listen to a security briefing from the CIA, before telling the US Army to build a golf course on the moon.

He said: “I get it, I’m the boss. Sure, Congress, whatever. But when do I get an eagle to perch on my arm? 

“Anyway, I want to create the most beautiful golf course the moon has ever seen. Beautiful, just beautiful. You won’t believe it.”

[Fernando 6,451]

The markets love Trump it seems. Dow all time highs in the overnight session. 

[kellzfresh 7,229]

14 hours ago, Kieran. said:

Clinton you fucking idiot, you had one job.

I found this as a major reason she lost 

Obviously she had a website where she outlined all her policy stances, and she wasn't awarded victory in the presidential debates for naught.
However I agree that there is no single issue I can point to as distinctively Clinton's. Trump had the blasted wall (and Mexico is gonna pay for it). Bernie had universal healthcare and free college.
It's a failure of Hillary's that she couldn't identify a few strong issues that could rally the base up. All she kept going for hard was, "well, you don't wanna vote for him ".
We're complaining that minorities didn't show up to vote. Why didn't Hillary go all out to recruit them? Imagine if she outlined specific policies she would enact upon their behalf instead of the bland "criminal justice reform" nonsense? What if she pledged to end the war on drugs, completely? Or restore the Voting Rights Act to it's full strength pre-SCOTUS gutting? Or demand, not suggest, that all police forces nationwide comply by strict standards or lose federal funding and support?
Her dilly-dalling on TPP fecked her over as well, as she tried to be too diplomatic, towing the line between Obama's agenda and angry voters in the rust belt. She avoided facing the issue head on. And end of the day, she lost the entire belt, barring Illinois.
For some reason the last few weeks of the campaign seemed like they were throwing all the politicians and celebrities in their quiver at the wall, hoping that something stuck. And all I was hearing from them again and again was, "you don't wanna vote for that guy".
It's hard to blame her measured pragmatism, which fecked her over in the general election, but carried her this far in her career.
She just faced the perfect storm in a man who gave no feck about nuance or playing to the wall, and voters lapped it up.

And another was when she insulted some Trump supporters at one time. Instead of trying to bring them over to her side. What was she thinking?

[Fulham Broadway 16,827]

''Two million illegal immigrants, they will be gone in my first hour if elected, NO amnesty''

GIFSoup

[lucio 5,418]

17 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

''Two million illegal immigrants, they will be gone in my first hour if elected, NO amnesty''

GIFSoup

guess he means first day on the job. still wont happen

[Fulham Broadway 16,827]

This myth that Trump isn't 'establishment' is a joke. Trump is part of the elite that he espouses, born with multiple silver spoons.

He will help his rich chums with tax breaks, but watch him sell the white working class down the river that he has conned

[Fernando 6,451]

I find it funny the protest against Trump. 

The majority decided the election and pick him.

Hes the next president, if they don't agree then they can kindly moved to another country.

Because the majority chose Trump and he is the next president. 

 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

2 hours ago, lucio said:

guess he means first day on the job. still wont happen

No he didn't mean it at all. Nor the 'Muslim ban' nor the wall. 

None of those are actually achievable. They were just populist talk. As was Obama's 'change' rhetoric in 08 for that matter...

 

50 minutes ago, Fernando said:

The majority decided the election and pick him.

They actually didn't. Clinton won the popular vote. He won the electoral college. 

[kmk108 1,186]

4 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

''Two million illegal immigrants, they will be gone in my first hour if elected, NO amnesty''

GIFSoup

Obama is still president until January.

[iseah100 5,612]

6 hours ago, Fernando said:

I find it funny the protest against Trump. 

The majority decided the election and pick him.

Hes the next president, if they don't agree then they can kindly moved to another country.

Because the majority chose Trump and he is the next president. 

 

except Hillary won the popular vote. 

[iseah100 5,612]

 

20 hours ago, Spike said:

The media has been forcing feeding Clinton's landslide victory for weeks and that is why she lost. Why would Clinton supporters wait in line for twenty minutes if their nominee is a shoe-in? 'My state is blue, I don't have to vote'.

If the DNC hadn't colluded with the media to stop Bernie he would be our president elect, not Trump. Trump is not my president, i refuse to accept him, not when he has threatened the well being of my family and friends and community. 

19 hours ago, Spike said:

Well, the first statement is a partial truth. There are some terrible things coming from Mexico. Of course, some outstanding people also are immigrating.

There are terrible people born here, more in fact. And are more likely to commit crimes than mexican immigrants. 

 

 

I am genuinely embarrassed to be American because the rest of the country elected a sociopath and an unqualified, unhinged, narcissistic, racist bigot as our President. EMBARRASSED. This country has not been great for a long time and will never be great again. 
I can't believe the most qualified woman in the world lost to the least qualified man in the world. Uneducated, uninformed, disgruntled, aggressive, oblivious to global threats and a little bit addicted to guns. That's America right there and Trump is it's president.

This is not funny, this is not entertaining, this is terrifying. Not just for me, but for the whole world. We should all be scared. 

[iseah100 5,612]

It also has recently come out that Russians were in contact and coordinating with trump and his campaign from the get go. And now the American president is now beholden to the greatest threat to our allies. But Clinton had emails though. Racism is alive in this country and now it's out in the open thanks to Trump. Ignorance is the dominant thought process. Isolationism is the goal. 

[Captain Ahmed 528]

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[Yeboii 1,844]

8 minutes ago, iseah100 said:

 

It also has recently come out that Russians were in contact and coordinating with trump and his campaign from the get go

 

Got anything to back that up? Never seen any reliable source confirming this 100%

[kmk108 1,186]

10 minutes ago, iseah100 said:

It also has recently come out that Russians were in contact and coordinating with trump and his campaign from the get go. And now the American president is now beholden to the greatest threat to our allies. But Clinton had emails though. Racism is alive in this country and now it's out in the open thanks to Trump. Ignorance is the dominant thought process. Isolationism is the goal. 

If you believe that, then you should also believe that the Clintons are probably the shadiest political family in the western world.

[Spike 12,049]

1 hour ago, iseah100 said:

 

If the DNC hadn't colluded with the media to stop Bernie he would be our president elect, not Trump. Trump is not my president, i refuse to accept him, not when he has threatened the well being of my family and friends and community. 

There are terrible people born here, more in fact. And are more likely to commit crimes than mexican immigrants. 

 

 

I am genuinely embarrassed to be American because the rest of the country elected a sociopath and an unqualified, unhinged, narcissistic, racist bigot as our President. EMBARRASSED. This country has not been great for a long time and will never be great again. 
I can't believe the most qualified woman in the world lost to the least qualified man in the world. Uneducated, uninformed, disgruntled, aggressive, oblivious to global threats and a little bit addicted to guns. That's America right there and Trump is it's president.

This is not funny, this is not entertaining, this is terrifying. Not just for me, but for the whole world. We should all be scared. 

I dislike Bernie Sanders. Socialism isn't something I agree with.
How has Trump threatened your family?
It isn't just Mexicans or immigrants, it is "ILLEGALS". The reason why the crime rater is lower is because of the fear of deportation, not because they are necessarily better citizens. I immigrated to American using a legal method. It was expensive and it drained me financially to the point I'm still in debt. I reject the notion of illegal immigration as it circumvents what I struggled to achieve. The reason more there are more terrible Americans than terrible Mexicans living in American is because there is around 350+ million more Americans. People think just because I'm white, I somehow had it easier getting into this country, I had to go through all the same paper work, the same bureaucracy, as many legal Mexican, South African, Canadian, Englishman, Somali and Indian. You also cannot deny the thriving gun and drug trade that exists due to Mexico and immigrated Latino organised crime.

29% of all Hispanic voters chose Trump. 

57 minutes ago, iseah100 said:

It also has recently come out that Russians were in contact and coordinating with trump and his campaign from the get go. And now the American president is now beholden to the greatest threat to our allies. But Clinton had emails though. Racism is alive in this country and now it's out in the open thanks to Trump. Ignorance is the dominant thought process. Isolationism is the goal. 

It's not the fact that she had emails. You miss the point entirely, how can a nation trust a woman that under oath lied about it all. How can America trust a woman that has been funded by Saudis? How can America trust a woman that has been knee-deep in political scandals and corruption for over thirty years? How can American trust a woman that supports gay marriage when eight year ago she stated that 'marriage is between men and women'? How can America trust a woman that knowingly defended a child rapist and used character assassination tactics against a twelve-year old girl? How can America trust a woman that sold uranium to Iran? How can America trust a 'champion of women's rights' when she has openly threatened Bill's lovers? How can America trust a woman that has been involved in various scandals concerning racism towards Black Americans and Latinos? It isn't about that Trump is a better politician, it's because nobody can trust Clinton, this goes far, far beyond a simple scandal concerning the safe storage of confidential information. This is about trust and the American public cannot trust Clinton, they may not particularly like Trump but they see him as at least somewhat more genuine. 

Do you know what Clinton and her cabinet thinks about Latinos? You're nothing but 'needy Latinos', another demographic to manipulate. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6777

You think, no you know Trump is evil but just because he is, doesn't mean the opposing team is good. She doesn't care about you, she doesn't care about your people, but she does care about your vote.

[Spike 12,049]

9 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

This myth that Trump isn't 'establishment' is a joke. Trump is part of the elite that he espouses, born with multiple silver spoons.

He will help his rich chums with tax breaks, but watch him sell the white working class down the river that he has conned

That isn't the establishment that is being referred to. The political establishment not the wealthy. Cliton is a career politician and has worked for the government for over thirty years, that is the 'establishment' they refer to, not the noble upper class.

[Fulham Broadway 16,827]

Just now, Spike said:

That isn't the establishment that is being referred to. The political establishment not the wealthy. Cliton is a career politician and has worked for the government for over thirty years, that is the 'establishment' they refer to, not the noble upper class.

Get what you're saying hes not one of the endless Bush/Clinton clan, but the political establishment in the US is the wealthy. Clinton and Bush had a large group of billionaires as ''advisors''. Lobbyists more like, arms company shareholders, hence the endless cycle of bomb, kill, destabilise, rebuild, re arm, bomb, kill....you get the picture.

It costs between 50 million and 100 million dollars to run in the Primaries, then another 75 million to run for President. Lol Trump 'noble upper class'- heir to a fortune as a baby, and  is now a 70 year old spoilt baby.

I predict a coronary or assassination...