Politics & Stuff

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Israeli airstrike on paramedics and civilians. Clearly the ambulances were being used to fire Hamas's missiles.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=627045547414470&set=vb.118863654899331&type=2&theater

[Stingray 9,441]

All that bullshit about Hamas using human shields turned false. IDF themselves used Palestinians as human shields. Absolute scum.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=636830823102609

This practise is documented in the 2009 UN report. Confirmed in multiple instances.

[Fernando 6,486]

Israel’s IDF using photoshop to forge documents to lie to the public and frame innocent people

Watching the video is like watching the videos of all those conspiracy theorist about USA blowing up the WTC.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Watching the video is like watching the videos of all those conspiracy theorist about USA blowing up the WTC.

Difference being that this one actually had solid proof and wasn't a conspiracy.

[Fernando 6,486]

Difference being that this one actually had solid proof and wasn't a conspiracy.

That's what the conspiracy guys say. They have all the proof and that Bush brought those towards down....

[hjperdeath 2,226]

That's what the conspiracy guys say. They have all the proof and that Bush brought those towards down....

I don't know how you can't see the difference between a photoshop analysis and a guy living in a basement making conspiracy videos..

[Fernando 6,486]

I don't know how you can't see the difference between a photoshop analysis and a guy living in a basement making conspiracy videos..

Have you seen the conspiracy videos? It's the same thing, some guy talking about a photoshop as you put it and what not.

Now the other video about Facebook, now that looks like real stuff and reported by some journalist... Hopefully.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Have you seen the conspiracy videos? It's the same thing, some guy talking about a photoshop as you put it and what not.

Now the other video about Facebook, now that looks like real stuff and reported by some journalist... Hopefully.

He linked to the site, and showed how it was doctored. he also lets you do it by linking the picture. I don't know how that's a conspiracy. Everything must be a conspiracy then. The war going on must be a conspiracy too. Everything could be forgery on a massive scale.

[Fernando 6,486]

He linked to the site, and showed how it was doctored. he also lets you do it by linking the picture. I don't know how that's a conspiracy. Everything must be a conspiracy then. The war going on must be a conspiracy too. Everything could be forgery on a massive scale.

Again the same thing is said in those conspiracy videos.

Similar style

[Stingray 9,441]

Watching the video is like watching the videos of all those conspiracy theorist about USA blowing up the WTC.

Hey Fernandoo, why you never answer my posts anymore? If i recall correctly, i gave much more than shadowy movie clips. But you seem good at ignorant those.

Eg: Shin Bet Oscar winning Israeli documentary with the actually former heads/leaders and many other prijze winning research journalist accounts

Eg: testimonials of Israeli soldiers ... Eg Breaking the Silence

Eg: UN reports (Eg. The 2008 Goldstein report which i listed entirely on here)

Eg: UN convictions (there are a LOT of those)

Eg: analyses of Israeli left wing academics

Eg: good thorough books galore, like the The Devils Strategy , Dreyfuss or sources of the new Israeli historians.

Eg: books and testimonials of the general that actually lead the six day war and his son (the Peleds)

Eg: the original zionist writings: Herzl but also Balfour statements, ....

Etc....... And much more

But you are always a dead mute when it comes to that. I get you dont like me, but thats kinda weak.

[Fulham Broadway 16,923]

Thats why if you want to discuss politics its best to use proper academic sources as evidence.

youtube, facebook, is generally full of bollocks. Even corporate media has an 'agenda'.

[Fernando 6,486]

Hey Fernandoo, why you never answer my posts anymore? If i recall correctly, i gave much more than shadowy movie clips. But you seem good at ignorant those.

Eg: Shin Bet Oscar winning Israeli documentary with the actually former heads/leaders and many other prijze winning research journalist accounts

Eg: testimonials of Israeli soldiers ... Eg Breaking the Silence

Eg: UN reports (Eg. The 2008 Goldstein report which i listed entirely on here)

Eg: UN convictions (there are a LOT of those)

Eg: analyses of Israeli left wing academics

Eg: good thorough books galore, like the The Devils Strategy , Dreyfuss or sources of the new Israeli historians.

Eg: books and testimonials of the general that actually lead the six day war and his son (the Peleds)

Eg: the original zionist writings: Herzl but also Balfour statements, ....

Etc....... And much more

But you are always a dead mute when it comes to that. I get you dont like me, but thats kinda weak.

Okay then let's start with this.

What you got for the six days war?

You have something so that I can take a look at?

[Stingray 9,441]

Okay then let's start with this.

What you got for the six days war?

You have something so that I can take a look at?

Ok then ....

Lets start with a very neutral documentary about the 6 day war ....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YZYBUdzJuqI

If you wanna dive in more try

http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/the_top_10_documentaries_about_the_israelpalestine_conflict/

The two award winters are 5 Broken Camera's (palestinian/Israeli collaboration about life as a palestinian in Bi'lin) . The doc about the history of zionism is also informative

and The Gatekeepers (Israeli documentary about Shin Bet, the secret service with those leading it) http://putlocker.is/watch-the-gatekeepers-online-free-putlocker.html

One of these links should work.

If you want books , start with : Our Harsh Logic http://www.amazon.com/Our-Harsh-Logic-Testimonies-Territories-ebook/dp/B0080K3FE0

More on the historical issue, try searching for articles by Ilan Pappé, one of the main new historians.

Other voices that speak out: Uri Avnery, Max Blumenthal, Noam Chomsky, Jonathan Cook, Norman Finkelstein, Amira Hass, Gideon Levy, Ilan Pappé, Henry Siegman and Philip Weiss

I hope you give it a chance.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

Ok then ....

Lets start with a very neutral documentary about the 6 day war ....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YZYBUdzJuqI

If you wanna dive in more try

http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/the_top_10_documentaries_about_the_israelpalestine_conflict/

The two award winters are 5 Broken Camera's (palestinian/Israeli collaboration about life as a palestinian in Bi'lin) . The doc about the history of zionism is also informative

and The Gatekeepers (Israeli documentary about Shin Bet, the secret service with those leading it) http://putlocker.is/watch-the-gatekeepers-online-free-putlocker.html

One of these links should work.

If you want books , start with : Our Harsh Logic http://www.amazon.com/Our-Harsh-Logic-Testimonies-Territories-ebook/dp/B0080K3FE0

More on the historical issue, try searching for articles by Ilan Pappé, one of the main new historians.

Other voices that speak out: Uri Avnery, Max Blumenthal, Noam Chomsky, Jonathan Cook, Norman Finkelstein, Amira Hass, Gideon Levy, Ilan Pappé, Henry Siegman and Philip Weiss

I hope you give it a chance.

Gideon Levy had an article published recently on cnn website. Check it out

[Stingray 9,441]

Gideon Levy had an article published recently on cnn website. Check it out

OW nice, any link?

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

OW nice, any link?

Yep

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/08/opinion/israel-own-worst-enemy-levy/index.html?hpt=hp_t5

[Stingray 9,441]

Yep

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/08/opinion/israel-own-worst-enemy-levy/index.html?hpt=hp_t5

Very nice!

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

Very nice!

Right winger extremists views are on the rise. This is no good sign for the future. Especially with clear rise of Islamic extremists. It is an introduction for something real bad.