Politics & Stuff

[Fernando 6,585]

26 minutes ago, kmk108 said:

To be honest, this post shocks me. Trump is sure the picture of Christian values isn't he? 

And as I said earlier, I don't want religion in my government. Someone could worship a toy truck for all I care. If he knows how to run the White House, that should be the only thing that matters.

USA was founded as a Christian nation. If anything we are "trying" going back to our roots. Weather that comes true that's a whole different story. 

Because praying, reading the bible is not enough. It needs to be accompany by actions. 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

3 hours ago, Fernando said:

Of course, remember actions speak louders then words. 

 

I actually believe obama was an Atheist, but attended church to gain a foothold in the black community, which he wanted to be a part of since he was always the only black person in his circles in life.

 

Looking at the way he, and his family, carried themselves I don't see anything inherently Sunni about them. Michelle is an accomplished feminist, and his daughters look like normal everyday girls who wear short dresses, and in Malia's case, goes to parties.

[kmk108 1,186]

5 minutes ago, Fernando said:

USA was founded as a Christian nation. If anything we are "trying" going back to our roots. Weather that comes true that's a whole different story. 

Because praying, reading the bible is not enough. It needs to be accompany by actions. 

Founded by Christians, goverened Christians, but it wasn't a Christian nation.

Going back to our roots? Shouldn't we avoid that? The world isn't the same place it was when this country was founded and acting like there's some past glory that we can return to is a pipe dream for tyrants that want to take advantage of people.

Those people who think we'll go back to some glory time will be very, very, very disappointed in a few years. The government isn't the only reason manufacturing jobs have left, and government isn't the only thing that's going to have to do something to make a change. Simply put, manufacturing is cheaper overseas. That cheaper labor allows the price of goods to be cheaper. If you somehow force companies to keep or move manufacturing to the US, we'll ALL pay the price for it.

[cosmicway 1,333]

Religion-the flag-the nation ...
The champions typically hide under the tables when there is a war on, or become broadcasters of enemy radio stations like Lord Haw- Haw, Tokyo Rose, Axis Sally (a typical trumpite in her time).

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

20 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Religion-the flag-the nation ...
The champions typically hide under the tables when there is a war on, or become broadcasters of enemy radio stations like Lord Haw- Haw, Tokyo Rose, Axis Sally (a typical trumpite in her time).

One of the funniest things I ever heard was Good old Haw-Haw's last broadcast as Germany was being bombed back to the stone age around him

 

 

The ramblings of a drunk man who knew, at that point in time, that he was as good as dead.

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Because the Jesus of the bible is God. That's a blaspheme for Muslim. 

So that's a major hole in those that say that "we all serve the same god". And that's no because my God is Jesus

I thought Jesus was supposed to be the Son of God, not God him/herself ?

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

USA was founded as a Christian nation. If anything we are "trying" going back to our roots. Weather that comes true that's a whole different story. 

Because praying, reading the bible is not enough. It needs to be accompany by actions. 

Yes actions, surely Jesus if he was real, and around today would be appalled at how the Zionists slaughter and torture the Palestinians ?

[Fernando 6,585]

Just now, Fulham Broadway said:

I thought Jesus was supposed to be the Son of God, not God him/herself ?

Son of God is a title, but he is god. 

This is why it's called in the christian faith "the trinity". God the father, God the son and god the holy spirit. 

It's a very hard concept to explain to many. One of the example some people give is that of an egg. An egg has 3 different layers but it's one. Each layer has it's specific role but it's one. 

 

[Fernando 6,585]

6 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Yes actions, surely Jesus if he was real, and around today would be appalled at how the Zionists slaughter and torture the Palestinians ?

Of course that's wrong. 

But of course not everything as it seems. 

Just like there's bad example of Zionist, there's also bad example of Palestinians. 

The media is much easier to cover anything done wrong that Israel is part of, but very silent on anything wrong that Palestinians do....

For example: 

 

 

 

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

6 minutes ago, Fernando said:

For example:

But 'Ami Horowitz' is a Zionist so that will be biased.

[kmk108 1,186]

27 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Of course that's wrong. 

But of course not everything as it seems. 

Just like there's bad example of Zionist, there's also bad example of Palestinians. 

The media is much easier to cover anything done wrong that Israel is part of, but very silent on anything wrong that Palestinians do....

For example: 

 

 

 

 

It's been my experience that it's the opposite. Before college, I had no clue Israelis even did anything wrong in the conflict.

[kmk108 1,186]

43 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I thought Jesus was supposed to be the Son of God, not God him/herself ?

It's the Holy Trinity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity

 

[Fernando 6,585]

46 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

But 'Ami Horowitz' is a Zionist so that will be biased.

Well maybe you are right but with that example UN is not Zionist, so are they biased?

Well in fact last year Israel had more resolution passed against them by the UN then say Syria who is doing much worse to their people.....

 

BAN KI-MOON RECOGNIZES BIAS AGAINST ISRAEL IN LAST SECURITY COUNCIL SPEECH

http://www.jpost.com/ISRAEL-NEWS/UN-CHIEF-URGES-ISRAELI-LAWMAKERS-TO-RECONSIDER-SETTLEMENT-BILL-475617

 

Ban Ki-moon says UN has 'disproportionate' focus on Israel
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/ban-ki-moon-united-nations-disproportionate-israel-focus-resolutions-palestinians-human-rights-danny-a7481961.html

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Well in fact last year Israel had more resolution passed against them by the UN then say Syria who is doing much worse to their people.....

 

79 UN Resolutions broken by Israel up until 2010

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/01/27/rogue-state-israeli-violations-of-u-n-security-council-resolutions/

They just get away with it time and time again due to AIPAC and Zionist lobbying

[kmk108 1,186]

Dakota Access Pipeline and Keystone Pipeline have literally been forced through by Trump's executive order. We may see a record number of executive orders for a presidential term if this continues.

Yay, more building for infrastructure of a a resource that we should been decreasing the use of, not increasing.

[Fernando 6,585]

6 minutes ago, kmk108 said:

Dakota Access Pipeline and Keystone Pipeline have literally been forced through by Trump's executive order. We may see a record number of executive orders for a presidential term if this continues.

Yay, more building for infrastructure of a a resource that we should been decreasing the use of, not increasing.

Who has the most record? For Executive order. 

Edit: nvm I saw it in wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders

[Fernando 6,585]

22 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

 

79 UN Resolutions broken by Israel up until 2010

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/01/27/rogue-state-israeli-violations-of-u-n-security-council-resolutions/

They just get away with it time and time again due to AIPAC and Zionist lobbying

Have you actually read some of them?

I scratch at myself reading this: 

Res. 242 (Nov. 22, 1967) – Emphasizes “the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war”, emphasizes that member states have a commitment to abide by the U.N. Charter, and calls for the “Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied” during the June 1967 war.

Isn't this a clear double standard? I remember Peru taking by war land from Ecuador and there's nothing being done for that.....

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

8 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Have you actually read some of them?

I scratch at myself reading this: 

Res. 242 (Nov. 22, 1967) – Emphasizes “the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war”, emphasizes that member states have a commitment to abide by the U.N. Charter, and calls for the “Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied” during the June 1967 war.

Isn't this a clear double standard? I remember Peru taking by war land from Ecuador and there's nothing being done for that.....

True, but Peru probably doesn't have the same leverage in Washington ....

[kmk108 1,186]

47 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Who has the most record? For Executive order. 

Edit: nvm I saw it in wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders

Well nevermind then  Unless Trump becomes a Tyrant (in which he won't need executive orders)

[Spike 12,049]

On 1/22/2017 at 5:59 PM, Peace. said:

You are actually very soft in your words Spike because the number of people who are talking about reverting back to a pre-industrial society amounts to next to zero.

On the other hand, the vast majority of people that "fight" to "save the planet" are overwhelmingly people that embrace entirely the Society of Consumption. But the problem for them is that we are living in a world dominated by American paradigms and the Political Correctness is one of the most important of them. It means that, for instance, you can drop bombs over seven countries and kill thousands of muslims, yet if you make nice speeches about peace, it will be enough for people and they will considere you as some sort of heroic peace bringer — on the contrary, if you say something non PC about muslims you will be considered as the next Hitler even though you have never killed one of them.

It is the same with ecology and the climate change. You can overuse your mac & your ipad & your iphone then listen to music on your fancy stereo, sipping from a drink with ice cubes coming from your huge american fridge while chilling in your house and enjoying the cooled-down air from the air-conditioner. You can also travel the world in a highly polluting plane in order to showcase on social media how hype you are and how you are "culturally elevated" as you visit other cultures. And finally you can wear yourself with clothes made in China and eating meat that comes from New-Zeland while eating fruits from some other places.

All of that is perfectly fine — you can burn incredibly huge amounts of energy the day as long as the night you log in on twitter and shove down people's throat how much you are an ecologist, then everything is fine.

This is basically what are doing the people that contortion themselves over the fact that Trump is dropping the climate change from US policies. Through which medium all of those twitter activists are venting their outrage ? That's right, from a computer or a smartphone or an ipad — or even better for the most "connected" of them, from the three. Those people are an integral part of the problem, just as much as those with their big Jeep.

And if you notice their demands, they are not demanding to people to drop their way of life — the High Consumption is too comfortable to be dropped. And not only they are not asking that, but they are demanding governments to raise the power of consumption of people who don't have the possibility to burn a lot of oil.

The most interesting is how those people manage to reconcile their need for huge energetic consumption and their need to have a good public image. The trick is pretty simple : they delegate their responsibility to their governments and to big companies. As I said, those people do not wish to lose their little comfort. They thus demand to their government to magically fix things and to come up with a solution to keep their consummaritary way of life while buring "clean" energy ; and as long politicians did not come out with the magic idea that ends all problems, those very same people will yelp — while sitting in their air-conditioned home —  that Exxon are polluters.

 

 

Bioenergy is a long way to be able to sustain our needs in energy wich are rising exponentially each and passing day — yet people want to consume. So while they are so proud of themselves to protest against big polluters and to """fight""" — only in words — to save the planet, there are people out there that have to come up with solutions to satisfy those people's need in energy (otherwise they will riot). And that solution is inexorably.... OIL — and for Americans specifically, it is SHALE OIL. Those hypocrites can criticize Trump all they want, but their way of life is requiring to use polluting industries and energies.

All those hypocrites of twitter activists that enjoy to act as if they were a special breed have to realise that their way of life requires to burn gigantic amounts of oil. Their way of life has a cost — a huge cost. Those White Knights have to choose : either they understand they are an integral part of the problem and that what is polluting is their way of life and not the petrol and thus they finally change how they live ; or they should simply shut the hell up because their moral crusade is very annoying and aside from a few 'likes' on the internet, it is non productive.

I work as a barista at Starbucks; a company that paints itself in a very socially responsible manner. A customer had asked for a hot coffee refill, which is about a quarter of the regular price. I had placed a new lid on top of his cup which caused him to remark something along the lines of 'I already have a lid, I'm trying to reduce waste'. That statement got me thinking quite a lot, it was a rather innocuous statement but it stood out like a sore thumb. So the mam bought about a half-litre of black cofee; brewed on an electric drip, ground on an electric grinder, the beans were wrapped in a thick plastic bag, shipped to the store in a large cardboard container on a gas guzzling truck, shipped to a depot on an even larger truck, shipped from south-America on a cargo plane or a cargo ship, roasted in a huge electric oven, picked by Colombian farmers that drove to work in their 1992 Chevrolet pick-up and watered with megatons of water. No only that but the customer drove to the store on his motorbike. I think a plastic lid is the least of the worries.