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7 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

 

Did you not see who topped their group?

But they couldn't beat Paris. It's gonna be comfortable. 

 

7 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

After tmrw rest of the cl campaign is pointless. The winner between city and real is obviously gonna walk it 

Arsenal can play both. Arsenal this season against City won CS and win and draw in the league. 

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Just now, NikkiCFC said:

But they couldn't beat Paris. It's gonna be comfortable. 

 

Arsenal can play both. Arsenal this season against City won CS and win and draw in the league. 

Arsenal are chokers. Would surprise me if they even got past the worst Bayern team in over a decade 

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2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

lol

we should make a crazy play for Simeone

sell all our CBs except Colwill

and let him pick the rest we buy to replace

I’d take simeone and a squad full of intense Spaniards / Latin Americans 

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2 minutes ago, lucio said:

I’d take simeone and a squad full of intense Spaniards / Latin Americans 

remotley Simeone type CBs:

(shame Gvardiol is not available)

    
Matthijs de Ligt
Bremer  
António Silva  
 
Robin Le Normand
Piero Hincapié 

Facundo Medina
Dávid Hancko
Alessandro Buongiorno 
Riccardo Calafiori 
Nicolò Casale 
 

 

 

 

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Dortmund winning btw is bad news for 5th place team in England. Bayern:Arsenal will be massive tomorrow. And Leverkusen and Atalanta very close to eliminate WH and Liverpool. AV and Fiorentina also left in Conference. Plus Roma or Milan. From semis could easily be 3 German teams left, 3 italian and just Aston Villa. That would be bye, bye CL for Spurs or Villa. But could also affect us depending where we finish EL or Conference. 

This was table before tonight's games:

1. Italy, 18.428
2. Germany, 17.214
3. England, 16.750
4. France, 15.250
5. Spain, 15.062

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27 minutes ago, lucio said:

I’d take simeone and a squad full of intense Spaniards / Latin Americans 

He had 2:0 in Madrid and got more defensive and conceded. Tonight started defensive conceded 2. When they were finally back in the game on 2:2 same shit happened. His tactics costed Atletico. And not the first time. 

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Barca lost the chance to qualify for World Cup next summer.

11 of 12 already known. 

Chelsea 

Manchester City 

Bayern 

Dortmund 

Juventus 

Inter 

Real Madrid 

Atletico Madrid 

PSG 

Benfica 

Porto 

Arsenal need to win CL to qualify. Or it will be Salzburg. 

 

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the Nouveau riche are chokers until they aren't. Success begets success and so on.
Remember when people laughed at City and now they dominate in all comps.

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1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

But they couldn't beat Paris. It's gonna be comfortable. 

PSG couldn't beat Dortmund...

See how easy it is to flip the narrative. PSG are obviously massive favourites, and for good reason too. Nothing is a certainty in football, though.

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1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

11 of 12 already known. 

Chelsea 

Manchester City 

Bayern 

Dortmund 

Juventus 

Inter 

Real Madrid 

Atletico Madrid 

PSG 

Benfica 

Porto 

Every club on that list except 2 have already won a world club championship trophy (either the Intercontinental Cup or the Fifa World Club Cup or both)

except two

PSG

and

Benfica (lost back to Intercontinental Cups in 1961 and 1962):

The 2 games in the 1962 IC were the only 2 club matches that Pelé and Eusébio ever played against each other (the only other match they faced each other was Brasil v Portugal at Goodison in the 1966 World Cup, with Portugal winning 3 -1, Eusébio scored a brace)

The only other teams to lose back to back ICs are AC Milan, and then Estudiantes and Indpendiente (both from Argentina) BUT Independiente are only team on the planet ever to play in more than 2 main continental finals (European Cup/Champions Leage for European clubs, and then the Copa Libertadores for South American clubs) and never lose. They have 7 wins, no losses, including 4 in a row, in Copa Libertadores finals. We would be the 2nd (3 wins no losses), if not for Moscow, in 2008.

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Another crazy stat is that in the first 32 Copa Libertadores (1960-1991), after the back to back wins in the 3rd and 4th ones by Pele's Santos, Brasilian clubs only won 3 more

Cruzeiro in 1976

Flamengo in 1981 (Zico-led)

and Grêmio in 1983

Finally starting in 1992, with those great São Paulo sides (back to back and lost on pens trying for 3 in a row in 1994) they started to dominate it.

 

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1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Every club on that list except 2 have already won a world club championship trophy (either the Intercontinental Cup or the Fifa World Club Cup or both)

except two

PSG

and

Benfica (lost back to Intercontinental Cups in 1961 and 1962):

The 2 games in the 1962 IC were the only 2 club matches that Pelé and Eusébio ever played against each other (the only other match they faced each other was Brasil v Portugal at Goodison in the 1966 World Cup, with Portugal winning 3 -1, Eusébio scored a brace)

The only other teams to lose back to back ICs are AC Milan, and then Estudiantes and Indpendiente (both from Argentina) BUT Independiente are only team on the planet ever to play in more than 2 main continental finals (European Cup/Champions Leage for European clubs, and then the Copa Libertadores for South American clubs) and never lose. They have 7 wins, no losses, including 4 in a row, in Copa Libertadores finals. We would be the 2nd (3 wins no losses), if not for Moscow, in 2008.

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Another crazy stat is that in the first 32 Copa Libertadores (1960-1991), after the back to back wins in the 3rd and 4th ones by Pele's Santos, Brasilian clubs only won 3 more

Cruzeiro in 1976

Flamengo in 1981 (Zico-led)

and Grêmio in 1983

Finally starting in 1992, with those great São Paulo sides (back to back and lost on pens trying for 3 in a row in 1994) they started to dominate it.

 

to close this out (I can no longer edit that post)

Finally starting in 1992, with those great São Paulo sides (back to back and lost on pens trying for 3 in a row in 1994) they started to dominate it, other than a 5 year gap, 2000 to 2004, when Boca Juniors won 3 of the 5, and then 3 straight years (2007-2009) where no Brasilian club won it. The only 2 times Brasilian clubs won in that 10 years combined (2000 to 2009) were 2005 (São Paulo) and 2006 (Internacional).

They also had a three year gap with no Brasilian wins in 2014 to 2016. Other than that they really were the best country for the most part since 1992. River Plate in 2018 (played in Madrid, v Boca, due to violence) is the only non Brasilian side to win it in the last 7 Libertadores.

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6 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Dortmund winning btw is bad news for 5th place team in England. Bayern:Arsenal will be massive tomorrow. And Leverkusen and Atalanta very close to eliminate WH and Liverpool. AV and Fiorentina also left in Conference. Plus Roma or Milan. From semis could easily be 3 German teams left, 3 italian and just Aston Villa. That would be bye, bye CL for Spurs or Villa. But could also affect us depending where we finish EL or Conference. 

This was table before tonight's games:

1. Italy, 18.428
2. Germany, 17.214
3. England, 16.750
4. France, 15.250
5. Spain, 15.062

How many countries get 5 teams in CL based on this coefficient?

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Imagine a Bayern Dortmund CL final.

And neither are remotely close to being the best German side. 

Bayer Leverkusen obviously is, and they may well win the Europa League. 

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt!

lololol

 

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