capriccioso 2,545 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Nah, Messi isn't overrated, he's clearly the best of his generation and probably the best since Ronaldo (the Brazilian). Where he is overrated is when he is called the greatest of all time, thats not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloody 209 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 It was just the arrogance of it. That action screams, 'fuck you world, I do what I want'.watched that video a couple of times andthat scoring a goal meant what you said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 watched that video a couple of times andthat scoring a goal meant what you saidHe kicked the fuck out of a Sound Mic that he ran past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloody 209 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 He kicked the fuck out of a Sound Mic that he ran past.okay, so what about itwho cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 okay, so what about itwho caresPrecisely, in fact.. I was celebrating that goal.United winning back to back CL's, especially after Moscow would have been too much to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 okay, so what about itwho caresWho does that in a celebration? This a comparison:Maradona does drugs (cocaine to be exact) and screams into a camera for about half a second. Suspended.Messi takes drugs (growth hormones to be exact) and kicks a soud mic to hell. Circle Jerk.The situations aren't the same but the actions are. Besides kicking a sound mic is equal to kicking a camera, and if Messi did indeed kick a camera, I wonder what the reaction would be.It's not like I didn't like the goal too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloody 209 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Who does that in a celebration? This a comparison:Maradona does drugs (cocaine to be exact) and screams into a camera for about half a second. Suspended.Messi takes drugs (growth hormones to be exact) and kicks a soud mic to hell. Circle Jerk.The situations aren't the same but the actions are. Besides kicking a sound mic is equal to kicking a camera, and if Messi did indeed kick a camera, I wonder what the reaction would be.It's not like I didn't like the goal too.so cocaine and growth hormone are the same category of drugs nowone is an illegal party drug, while the other was used to help a kid from a poor family grow a bit taller so he can play football at the highest level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 so cocaine and growth hormone are the same category of drugs nowone is an illegal party drug, while the other was used to help a kid from a poor family grow a bit taller so he can play football at the highest levelDidn't I say 'the situations aren't the same'? I never said or insinuated they were the same damn thing. Stop using reductio ad absurdum.Besides I have more than once defended Messi and growth hormoans on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloody 209 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Didn't I say 'the situations aren't the same'? I never said or insinuated they were the same damn thing. Stop using reductio ad absurdum.Besides I have more than once defended Messi and growth hormoans on this forum.maradona was suspended because the drugs he took was illegal so that was a poor comparisoni still dont know why i or anyone should give a damn about a player kicking a sound mic while celebrating an important goalhe didn't kick a camera, didn't kick a ball into anyone's face while celebrating, so who cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 maradona was suspended because the drugs he took was illegal so that was a poor comparisoni still dont know why i or anyone should give a damn about a player kicking a sound mic while celebrating an important goalhe didn't kick a camera, didn't kick a ball into anyone's face while celebrating, so who caresIn my mind it reaffirms his holier than thou attitude. I don't care about the sound mic, it is the gesture that bothers me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I don't think there's much rivalry at all on their behalf to be honest... Yeah we dislike them because of the controversy in 'that' semi-final but i think they just see us as another English club. I could be wrong though.I also think messi is a little overated thanks to the players around him. Look at mascherano for example. He goes to barcelona and suddenly he's one of the "best" CBs in europe To my knowledge Barca do think of us as Rivals as much as we do them, we're perhaps their second biggest rivalry behind Madrid. They have had epic battles with us in the past, and apperently they respect us alot. Make no mistakes, this is a 2 way street, yes perhaps we hate them more but that's only because we're in the position we're in now. WHEN we climb back to the top Barca will be much more scared of us and the Barca-Chelsea rivalry will be back to where it was 2+ years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted April 8, 2012 Author Share Posted April 8, 2012 I don't think there's much rivalry at all on their behalf to be honest... Yeah we dislike them because of the controversy in 'that' semi-final but i think they just see us as another English club. I could be wrong though.I also think messi is a little overated thanks to the players around him. Look at mascherano for example. He goes to barcelona and suddenly he's one of the "best" CBs in europe Where were you 8 years back..? The rivalry did not start in 09.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I don't think there's much rivalry at all on their behalf to be honest... Yeah we dislike them because of the controversy in 'that' semi-final but i think they just see us as another English club. I could be wrong though.I also think messi is a little overated thanks to the players around him. Look at mascherano for example. He goes to barcelona and suddenly he's one of the "best" CBs in europe He really isnt mate. He may well be surrounded by great players but he is without a doubt the best player of this generation if not ever.edit. After super Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Messi is slightly overrated, and CR7 is slightly underrated, having said that Messi is still the best player on earth, but the difference between him and CR7 is not miles or Night and Day as some idiots think. In any other time we would be calling CR7 the best of all time, although he still is one of the Greatest players ever IMO, truly incredible Player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Messi is slightly overrated, and CR7 is slightly underrated, having said that Messi is still the best player on earth, but the difference between him and CR7 is not miles or Night and Day as some idiots think. In any other time we would be calling CR7 the best of all time, although he still is one of the Greatest players ever IMO, truly incredible Player. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 ???He is not the best player of all time as some are saying, and CR7 does not get enough Praise due to the Messi hype and his perception of being 'Stuck up' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 He is not the best player of all time as some are saying, and CR7 does not get enough Praise due to the Messi hype and his perception of being 'Stuck up' he's not the best of all time according to who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 he's not the best of all time according to who?These are my opinions (and the opinions of alot of others), This IS a forum after all. Untill Messi wins or at least dominates at a World cup he won't eclipse Maradona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted April 8, 2012 Author Share Posted April 8, 2012 People saying he is greater than Maradona are Fuckheads. Maradona single handedly steered Argentina to a World Cup win when the country was recovering from one of the worst turmoils they faced after the Falkland Wars.He single handedly steered Napoli to serie A title. Napoli were not Milan, Madrid or Barcelona.Unless Messi plays in an ordinary team and single handedly lifts the team to new heights he will NEVER EVER SURPASS MARADONA.He has played two world cups and numerous international tournaments and Argentina hasnt won anything.MARADONA WAS AND IS THE GREATEST PLAYER EVER TO KICK A FOOTBALL PERIOD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 These are my opinions (and the opinions of alot of others), This IS a forum after all. Untill Messi wins or at least dominates at a World cup he won't eclipse Maradona its just that you wrote it like it was a fact and the maradona thing again, that's according to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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