Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 what are his strengths/weakeness? Honestly only watched him play couple of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,602 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I like this buy if it's true. However he will need half a season to get his game like Willian. Needs to adjust from the lower league level that is Russia to hear. So don't expect him to be any good for the first couple of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Hi Friend,Both of them would be like a double Christmas gift, but like you mentioned it's hardly thinkable. I don't agree on this point:''We have to assume it, Jose will never sell Mikel.''At the latest part of the season, when Zouma and Mikel were both on the bench, he brought in Zouma earlier than Mikel every time. It was like the lock around 80th minute was Zouma, and then final 3-4 minutes was Mikel. Plus Zouma started to man-mark Fellaini while Mikel was also available. I had the feeling from that moment, that Mikel will be sold cause he dropped in the rankings. Yes he was coming back from an injury, but Jose always picks his #1 options whenever they are possible. For example: unfit Ramires played on RW vs Liverpool, or often the unfit Diego Costa started as striker, or Cesc playing while just coming back from an injury. The #1 lock was Mikel, but at the end of the season it was clearly Zouma. So I believe we will soon say goodbye to Mikel.The problem with having both Aranguiz and Wistel is, how do we give minutes to RLC?CM: Aranguiz, RLC, Ramires, Cesc, CDM: Witsel, MaticThat's actually one too much but I'd be really happy with both. Hi friend!Totally agree with you. In addition, if we signed him John Stones this summer, we would not need Mikel. It would be totally unnecessary because we may use Zouma in midfield without any kind of problem.It is true that last season Jose bet on Zouma ahead of Mikel. So I do not understand how we have not sold Mikel yet.Maybe Jose is waiting to close the signings of Witsel and someone like Aranguiz to sell Mikel. And that would be great news for us.About RLC I think he would be without space if we signed both (Aranguiz and Witsel) but it is also true that Jose trust him and surely these signings would motivate him to fight for a place in our starting eleven. To me RLC is ahead of Oscar, for example, and I hope Jose thinks so.Another possibility is to play with no pure right-winger and play with four midfielders constantly rotating their positions as we played at the start of last season and even the end of the season, as does the Barcelona and Their tiki-taka. I believe that modern football is won from midfield, especially in the Champions League. Maybe that could be a good option.Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 We could actually go full PEP mode and try something like this Iva Zouma. Azpi matic. Witsel Oscar. CescWilliam. Costa. HazardNot sure about which cbs but now I understand why pep has like 11 midfielders + 2 fbs playing there. The amount of running they have to do surely requires a lot of rotation. Did I say rotation? Yeah then it is a big no for mou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 YES NO MIKEL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 All this nonsense I've been reading about how United has the best midfield now.......When they don't even have the best midfield in manchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This guy is a bit of an unknown player, I doubt anyone here have seen him live more than 5 times including myself. However for 35m euros I would certainly hope he is good as that is the type of fee you pay for someone that is in top 10 in the world in their position. Can't really go off statistic and highlight either because he is a CDM and not an attacking mid.Lets just hope he turns out to be a Willian/Matic and not Afonso Alves/Zhurkov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguelito 459 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This guy is a bit of an unknown player, I doubt anyone here have seen him live more than 5 times including myself. However for 35m euros I would certainly hope he is good as that is the type of fee you pay for someone that is in top 10 in the world in their position. Can't really go off statistic and highlight either because he is a CDM and not an attacking mid.Lets just hope he turns out to be a Willian/Matic and not Afonso Alves/ZhurkovActually I would bet there are a ton of people on here that have seen him more than 5 times, myself included. Now I have not seen many of his club games since he's gone to Russia, but have watched him plenty of times for Benfica and the Belgian NT. (by the way, there are a lot of Belgian members on this forum, so I don't understand why you would think anybody would have seen him play)And just to let you know, he's not really a defensive mid. Much more of a box to box of sorts. He can do a job at defensive mid, but he is better when he has a little more freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despiadado.Maleante 1,046 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 All this nonsense I've been reading about how United has the best midfield now.......When they don't even have the best midfield in manchester.Who in City's midfield par Toure would get into uniteds team. Fernadindo aka poor mans ramires(Yes even ramires has one) or Fernadado aka Brazilian Mikel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Who in City's midfield par Toure would get into uniteds team. Fernadindo aka poor mans ramires(Yes even ramires has one) or Fernadado aka Brazilian Mikel Yaya and Fernandinho....Fernando as well.Nasri in a midfield 3. All 4 of them actually over carrick, herrera, and the southampton fella. Watching the game yesterday, even though it was preseason, their midfield sucked against club america... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 So now 23.5m for a full international who's played in the champions league and is only 26 is a lot of money???Man that is squad player money for a club our size... get real people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This guy is a bit of an unknown player, I doubt anyone here have seen him live more than 5 times including myself.Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This guy is a bit of an unknown player, I doubt anyone here have seen him live more than 5 times including myself. However for 35m euros I would certainly hope he is good as that is the type of fee you pay for someone that is in top 10 in the world in their position. Can't really go off statistic and highlight either because he is a CDM and not an attacking mid.Lets just hope he turns out to be a Willian/Matic and not Afonso Alves/ZhurkovAhum .... He was always played much more attacking then he was once in Zenit. Believe me, he is class. Technical, strong on the ball, good passer, dangerous when he gets in the box as well AND very consistent, very. I just don't get why Zenit positioned him so defensive. Maybe because he is so good at holding the ball. I think he slows the game down to much in a pure 6 position like he did in Zenith or some games in the NT. If he is aptly fit to play a position, i think it is the 8. He also could the 10 - done it in the NT and Standard LuikWe could use him very, very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This is a typical report that people pull from the Internet re these transfers. Check out the title then read the first paragraph!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I like his size and athletics but not really sure what are his actual strengths... Seems like a bit of a utility guy rather than a specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I like his size and athletics but not really sure what are his actual strengths... Seems like a bit of a utility guy rather than a specialist.He could replace cesc in the starting 11 when jose parks the bus....Matic-Witsel-ramboWillian-costa-hazard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I like his size and athletics but not really sure what are his actual strengths... Seems like a bit of a utility guy rather than a specialist.Very technical, very good on the ball, very consistent. Also, workhorse kind of guy. I think he would slot in amazing next to Matic - what a pivot that is ..... [emoji33][emoji33][emoji33][emoji33][emoji7][emoji7][emoji7][emoji7] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 This is a typical report that people pull from the Internet re these transfers. Check out the title then read the first paragraph!!!1. Its givemesports2. the "journalist" looks 17.why even bother posting this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 1. Its givemesports2. the "journalist" looks 17.why even bother posting this? Don't be such a winnie it might be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Very technical, very good on the ball, very consistent. Also, workhorse kind of guy. I think he would slot in amazing next to Matic - what a pivot that is ..... [emoji33][emoji33][emoji33][emoji33][emoji7][emoji7][emoji7][emoji7]ya I see that but I'm still not sure he has a role he specializes in if he does come to us. I mean one person mentioned he would be amazing next to Matic in the way Luiz was, while in my head I'd like to believe that, does he have the ball winning ability? He's an upgrade to Mikel for sure but I don't think he makes our midfield complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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