The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 13 hours ago, Robguima said: Did well for a young player, but it doesn't look it's the right position for him. at this time it would be quite difficult to fit him in a system. He's just too lax for the cm role... Well I guess same as mikel... Anyways, and he does not have enough in the final third. His shooting is all over the place - far from this level. He's stationed at CAM more than CM from what I saw. We need to ensure that we play the right system for him to blossom properly. killer1257 and chelseafan26 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 2 hours ago, The Skipper said: He's stationed at CAM more than CM from what I saw. We need to ensure that we play the right system for him to blossom properly. IMO, should be put in the CM with a proper workhorse behind him. He has defensive capability and would still run forward when necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellion 170 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Most fans big RLC up because he's a home-grown product but I am unimpressed with what I have seen of him so far. He does not have a single attribute that stands out to me which is why nobody in this forum can decide where his best position is in a definite manner. Contrast hoim with the likes of Musonda and Christenssen have done so much more and have far greater ability and work-rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 13 minutes ago, bellion said: Most fans big RLC up because he's a home-grown product but I am unimpressed with what I have seen of him so far. He does not have a single attribute that stands out to me which is why nobody in this forum can decide where his best position is in a definite manner. Contrast hoim with the likes of Musonda and Christenssen have done so much more and have far greater ability and work-rate. He is a B2B, at least that's how i see him. Fast, Strong, can tackle, can pass, has driving runs forward. His problem is his stamina and his involvement when the team has the ball. That's why he looks lazy as fuck. Essien19 and chelseafan26 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 So many mixed opinions on him. I thought he was very good yesterday. Had a couple moments of lapses in concentration but can you imagine if the rest of our team mates could raise their game. You would see a better player. Iwobi for instance who has burst on to the scene at Arsenal has been helped that whenever he is good the rest of the team he is playing with is also playing good which makes him stand out more. At times yesterday, he looked like the only one trying to make something happen. I definitely would say he is one who is exempt from blame yesterday. Just hope he goes from strength to strength next season. Too much talent, which should not be wasted. chelseafan26, Essien19 and Amblève. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Whilst now he maybe not the complete footballer, don't be frightened to chuck him in next season and surround him with quality signings and let him flourish. Let's take a chance, in fact I think it's not even a chance, it's allowing a really good kid to develop. Spike and chelseafan26 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 We will see. Certainly one of better if not best performers out there, but the team is so poor, you cant even compare. He is very allround and could develop nicely, but he is not enough mobile, dynamic and quick to be CM, while his ending product doesnt make him creative/productive CAM either. Has to work on stamina etc. Put him in the right place; in 4:3:3 and his weaknesses will be replaced with his strenghts. But Im certain he should be regular player next season. Not starter, but regular performer. Conte just might work wonders with difficult training and develop RLC in proper leader in few years. Chelseabluerising and chelseafan26 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 11 hours ago, The Skipper said: He's stationed at CAM more than CM from what I saw. We need to ensure that we play the right system for him to blossom properly. My post was not clear - I saw he was the CAM and thought as a CAM he is awful. It's not like he lacks something to be a CAM, he lacks every single attribute for the position. So, considering he may be more suited for a CM role, I am analyzing him as such. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Actually cant believe what I am reading. Atleast most of the 42,000 SB going fans thought he was very good on the day and definitely has the potential of being a part in our next season. Compared to rest of the team, RLC was on a different level. Essien19 and Chelseabluerising 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 14 hours ago, Blue_Fox_ said: He is a B2B, at least that's how i see him. Fast, Strong, can tackle, can pass, has driving runs forward. His problem is his stamina and his involvement when the team has the ball. That's why he looks lazy as fuck. He cannot be B2B if his stamina is low. It would be stupid to give him a role he cannot fulfill to full potential. I think the role he is playing at the moment suits him, though he is not a no.10, so I don't think the formation we employ is the best for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 5 hours ago, manpe said: He cannot be B2B if his stamina is low. It would be stupid to give him a role he cannot fulfill to full potential. I think the role he is playing at the moment suits him, though he is not a no.10, so I don't think the formation we employ is the best for him. Simple solution - a 3 man midfield. Get cesc out. Get Kante and Radja. And trust in RLC. He might not have cesc's 1 in 100 excellent long ball ratio, but he can make short successful passes, can drive forward as well as see a good pass. He has performed at a solid 7/10 for me in the oppurtunities he has got. He was a level (if not levels) over any of his teammates against a CL semi-finalist. The signs are all there. He has it in him to be a world beater. What he needs is trust from his managers and the fans. If we give him half the oppurtunities that we have given to the likes of OSCAR, he will go on to be a Chelsea Legend. manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 9 minutes ago, chelseafan26 said: Simple solution - a 3 man midfield. Get cesc out. Get Kante and Radja. And trust in RLC. He might not have cesc's 1 in 100 excellent long ball ratio, but he can make short successful passes, can drive forward as well as see a good pass. He has performed at a solid 7/10 for me in the oppurtunities he has got. He was a level (if not levels) over any of his teammates against a CL semi-finalist. The signs are all there. He has it in him to be a world beater. What he needs is trust from his managers and the fans. If we give him half the oppurtunities that we have given to the likes of OSCAR, he will go on to be a Chelsea Legend. Conte seems to favour 4-4-2 by what I have read. Let's imagine this is true, does he fit in a 2-man midfield? Who would you partner him with? Definitely not Fabregas, Radja or Vidal is a good shout though. If we start playing 2 in the middle, then I don't see a place for him unfortunately. He looks like a typical 4-3-3 player to me. What formation did Chelsea U21 play and what was his role? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 2 hours ago, manpe said: Conte seems to favour 4-4-2 by what I have read. Let's imagine this is true, does he fit in a 2-man midfield? Who would you partner him with? Definitely not Fabregas, Radja or Vidal is a good shout though. If we start playing 2 in the middle, then I don't see a place for him unfortunately. He looks like a typical 4-3-3 player to me. What formation did Chelsea U21 play and what was his role? A 3-5-2 formation sounds like a fair bet to me. Conte excelled with this formation with Juventus. What's so good about this, is that not only can RLC play in the middle of this setup, but if ever things have to be changed around, he can be moved to a much deeper role. Mikel may be good in that position already, but he's not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to consistency. Mikel can alter between good and bad games. We need someone whom we know can be developed into someone like Paul Pogba.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 4 hours ago, manpe said: Conte seems to favour 4-4-2 by what I have read. Let's imagine this is true, does he fit in a 2-man midfield? Who would you partner him with? Definitely not Fabregas, Radja or Vidal is a good shout though. If we start playing 2 in the middle, then I don't see a place for him unfortunately. He looks like a typical 4-3-3 player to me. What formation did Chelsea U21 play and what was his role? I agree he does not fit in a 2 man mid, does cesc. Yet we keep committing suicide game after game. Conte played 3-5-2 at juve, hopefully he can prove as flexible here. We used to play 4-3-3 with RLC. For example,, the 2013-14 youth cup finals against fulham had Houghton playing defensive midfield with colkett and RLC completing the 3. Dont think he has played any youth games after that. I may be wrong or mis-remembering though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 "It's always hard to lose at home. We came into the game with the aim to win and, like I say, it's hard, but we have to pick our heads up and go again because we've got another game soon." "It's a tough mental challenge playing in any Premier League game, but especially against big teams like Man City. I'm always growing, particularly any time I'm outside my comfort zone, so I look forward to big games like this." "Aguero has great ability and we saw that. He's got blistering pace and that's where we got done, on the counter-attack. It was a good experience for me to play against players like that. I am looking forward to playing more." "We will go back to the training ground, put this behind us and train hard to try and get to our top level and hopefully give our best in those games. I'm sure we are all going to try and win them." -Ruben Loftus-Cheek; Source: Chelsea FC You are a 20 year old and watch the senior players of the team simply give up match after match, how do you think that impacts such youngsters like RLC, Kenedy, Traore. I just hope this week is a statement of intent by the club on how to deal with deadwood and freeloaders at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Him and Colkett. Guus, set it up. Chelseabluerising and chelseafan26 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, CurlyHairLikeLuiz said: Him and Colkett. Guus, set it up. Rlc - Matic - Colkett. A dream, nothing more. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 3 hours ago, CurlyHairLikeLuiz said: Him and Colkett. Guus, set it up. Only on here mate: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 6 hours ago, CurlyHairLikeLuiz said: Him and Colkett. Guus, set it up. And Palmer. The lad should get decent minutes next year because he definately has physicality, skill and most importantly mentality to step up. Im keeping hope that under Conte, some talents will get spotted. CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caeruleus 1,148 Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 One interesting fact. Dele Alli from Tottemham Hotspur is 3 months OLDER than our Ruben Loftus Cheek. Alli was born in April 1996, and RLC in January 1996. Still, Alii is one of the best players in the League, and he is a candidate for that titulus. He plays a lot, he is in first 11 of the Spurs. And look at our RLC. He is maybe even bigger talent then Alli, but he has no chance to prove it. He doens't play how much he shoud. It's bad bab bad club's policy and manager's governing. Shameful chelseafan26 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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