killer1257 3,282 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 It is kinda sad that Chelsea only sign coaches that hate youth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Best thing for him is to leave us as soon as possible, but obviously I'd like him to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Very good performance today from this young lad. Had the ball pretty much and controlled it well. Too bad that pass didnt went all the way. Looking forward to see him start next game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 With that minute of play we can now start talks over a new contract. didierforever, King11Didier and Costa19 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 With that minute of play we can now start talks over a new contract.4 year contract extension with 2 years at vitesse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DYC. 7,542 Posted December 28, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted December 28, 2015 I've kept quiet on RLC but I can't do it anymore. He gets too much love for the very, very little he's shown in his career. Is he talented? Sure. But a big talent? No evidence to support that. I do agree with the argument that he at least deserves a chance but some are making it start to sound like Verratti is on the bench.I still think he needs to go. Send him to a club for two years, let him prove himself and assess the situation after. Beigl, Stats, Peace. and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I've kept quiet on RLC but I can't do it anymore. He gets too much love for the very, very little he's shown in his career. Is he talented? Sure. But a big talent? No evidence to support that. I do agree with the argument that he at least deserves a chance but some are making it start to sound like Verratti is on the bench.I still think he needs to go. Send him to a club for two years, let him prove himself and assess the situation after.Supporters are so separate to see youth with some its got the point they want a teenager more than if they are that good.We could have a 17 year old Mancienne here and some people will have a meltdown if he doesn't start. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beigl 1,387 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I've kept quiet on RLC but I can't do it anymore. He gets too much love for the very, very little he's shown in his career. Is he talented? Sure. But a big talent? No evidence to support that. I do agree with the argument that he at least deserves a chance but some are making it start to sound like Verratti is on the bench.I still think he needs to go. Send him to a club for two years, let him prove himself and assess the situation after.This. I also never regarded him as a BIG talent. He isn't bad but in his youth days he got constantly outshoned by of Boga and Musonda and he is certainly not as good as some people make him out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Supporters are so separate to see youth with some its got the point they want a teenager more than if they are that good.We could have a 17 year old Mancienne here and some people will have a meltdown if he doesn't start.Haha Mancienne. What happened to him? I vaguely remember him playing for Hamburg.I remember when Van Aanholt was the new Marcelo. It got so bad that I couldn't visit his thread anymore. Now he's barely good enough for Sunderland.And that little Englishman... Don't remember his name. The new Steven Gerrard. Connors or something. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 This kid needs some serious guidance. He needs to be playing football every week. If you are good enough you will return to the top level - he should have faith in his ability.Leave and don't look back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Our youth players are brilliant. Won a host of trophies. Easy to just undervalued them when they aren't playing. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 is he such a big talent. i dont know and i dont care.is he a better player than oscar. FUCK YES!!!so why the fuck is not he starting? King11Didier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Haha Mancienne. What happened to him? I vaguely remember him playing for Hamburg.I remember when Van Aanholt was the new Marcelo. It got so bad that I couldn't visit his thread anymore. Now he's barely good enough for Sunderland.And that little Englishman... Don't remember his name. The new Steven Gerrard. Connors or something.Conor Clifford, hit the winner in 2010 youth cup as captain, some fans wanted him not only promoted but groomed as Terrys successor, guess where he is now? Boreham wood Van Aanholt is soooo good going forward, the fact he didn't get a shot here just goes to show how bad he is a defender, seriously, he makes Bosingwa look like Lahm.As for Mancienne, hell knows where he is now, same asyou last I heard Hamburg. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I've kept quiet on RLC but I can't do it anymore. He gets too much love for the very, very little he's shown in his career. Is he talented? Sure. But a big talent? No evidence to support that. I do agree with the argument that he at least deserves a chance but some are making it start to sound like Verratti is on the bench.I still think he needs to go. Send him to a club for two years, let him prove himself and assess the situation after.I agree 100%. I know Fabregas has been poor but everytime a game kicks off, regardless of opposition people are putting him in their line up. I am thinking WTF. He is talented and has bags of potential but he is not ready to be starting games regularly. He maybe should have minutes but people over exaggerate the situation and make it look like it is a cardinal sin to leave him out. It is not. We barely have seen anything from him for first team bar few appearances last season. He was great against Maccabi though but still feel our situation will not chance, if RLC is suddenly put in the team. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Who cares about them , that crop weren't dominating all before them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Who cares about them , that crop weren't dominating all before them.But how good is RLC? If he was sent to Spurs, would he play? Southampton, Crystal Palace, WBA? I'd be scared for him if he went out on loan to those teams. He could succeed, definitely, but pro football tends to very daunting for the youngsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 But how good is RLC? If he was sent to Spurs, would he play? Southampton, Crystal Palace, WBA? I'd be scared for him if he went out on loan to those teams. He could succeed, definitely, but pro football tends to very daunting for the youngsters.well they'd have 0 interest in developing our youngsters. if rlc was at spurs' academy, he'd probably be playing. if we signed dele alli, he'd be loaned off somewhere stupid , or making the bench every 7 games here. King11Didier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 well they'd have 0 interest in developing our youngsters. if rlc was at spurs' academy, he'd probably be playing. if we signed dele alli, he'd be loaned off somewhere stupid , or making the bench every 7 games here.Why would you not play a player who would improve your team?I'm not talking about Chelsea and youth in general. That's a different discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Why would you not play a player who would improve your team?I'm not talking about Chelsea and youth in general. That's a different discussion.because if they do well, they'll be whisked away. i bet if christensen was on a 6 month of 1 year loan, he wouldn't have been afforded the same game time.unless the player is indisputably amazing, courtois, lukaku,.... don't expect them to play much. even zouma's st etienne status went backwards following our purchase, was shifted out to right back.alot of clubs see chelsea loanees as a chance to bring in cheap squad depth, and players for cup games. King11Didier and Bosnian Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 because if they do well, they'll be whisked away. i bet if christensen was on a 6 month of 1 year loan, he wouldn't have been afforded the same game time.unless the player is indisputably amazing, courtois, lukaku,.... don't expect them to play much. even zouma's st etienne status went backwards following our purchase, was shifted out to right back.alot of clubs see chelsea loanees as a chance to bring in cheap squad depth, and players for cup games.That doesn't make sense though. A one year loan is a one year lone. You know he's gone after a year even before you pick up the phone to make the call or whatever.Every club send players out on loan. Those who do well play, those who don't do well don't pay. Cheap squad depth definitely but if that player helps you club finish higher on the table, you play him.My problem with loans is when they're sent to a different club every year or to a club with 3 or 4 'home' (experienced) options in the player's position. dee25 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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