🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Ruben Loftus-Cheek

[the wes 7,212]

Ruben Loftus-Cheek targeted for Vitesse loan

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3143040/Chelsea-youngster-Ruben-Loftus-Cheek-targeted-Vitesse-loan-Jose-Mourinho-wants-midfielder-squad.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

[the wes 7,212]

Bosz says the powerful midfielder was a player they wanted from Chelsea, but his increasingly-important role under Mourinho meant the Eredivisie side were always likely to miss out.

'Chelsea know what they do for us and they are satisfied with the development that the boys have made with ​​us', Bosz told De Telegraaf.

'We know what we want, but it is also dependent on what happens at Chelsea. For example, we wanted to bring Ruben Loftus-Cheek here, but he is playing more at Chelsea now so a loan is impossible.'

[the wes 7,212]

Stoke City are prepared to offload goalkeeper Asmir Begovic to Premier League champions Chelsea, but want the deal to include Victor Moses, while Ruben Loftus-Cheek is another in contention to be involved, reports the Telegraph.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

[lucio 5,418]

He definitely needs to be a 10 in our formation

[Gilvorak 3,734]

He definitely needs to be a 10 in our formation

Not a pure #10 but he needs more freedom definitely. Have a horrible feeling Jose will try to convert him into a DM like he did Mikel & curb his attack/proactive instincts.

[!Hazard! 3,394]

Jose can try convert him into a defensive mid but if most TC folks can see Ruben's lack of ability in this department from our shitty streams, the Special One should be well aware of this by now as well. Mikel has different characteristics anyways as he is one the finest ball interceptors of the generation. Ruben is not that and never will be, and I have full trust in Jose's ability to identify Ruben's strengths and weaknesses. The biggest problem to his development isn't directly our system of play but Cesc Fabregas and Eden Hazard. These three lads in my opinion cannot function on the pitch at the same time and the lack of opportunities for Ruben because of that might be the real tragedy here. Let's hope he gets his chances and doesn't end up in Arnhem. In November 2014 we had played some amazing football but it was clear to everyone that rotation is necessary in order to maintain that level of player throughout the season. Let's hope Jose will learn his lesson from that and RLC will play a big role in it.

[herpthederp 122]

I think he'll be used as a box-to-box midfielder. Someone who can sit alongside Matic and use his physicality, but also burst forward and turn teams around.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

I think he'll be used as a box-to-box midfielder. Someone who can sit alongside Matic and use his physicality, but also burst forward and turn teams around.

Sounds strange but I think he will be played as a no 10, Jose puts emphasis on the 10 recovering the ball high up the pitch and values the ball in from Cesc that he can only provide from deep. IMO it's why Oscar is still here - he's quite defensively proficient for a CAM.

[lucio 5,418]

Sounds strange but I think he will be played as a no 10, Jose puts emphasis on the 10 recovering the ball high up the pitch and values the ball in from Cesc that he can only provide from deep. IMO it's why Oscar is still here - he's quite defensively proficient for a CAM.

He pressed high up the pitch very well , in the game against italy (rlc)

He doesn't need the pressure of playing in the pivot

[Unionjack 7,531]

I'd like to see them work on his speed and agility some. Right now he reminds me of a Frank Bruno.

Think I'd have liked to see him go out on loan to a Champ/PL side. Yes hes been great with the academy but we must admit that not all teams academys are at our standard. You compare some of them and its obvious we come up against some that just look like children. You want to put RLC into our 1st team to play world class players. Its a bloomin big step.

[herpthederp 122]

Loans are really poor development tools. In truth they're more often used to put a player in the shop window than actually getting them ready for first team football. Mourinho is a good enough manager and Chelsea have a strong enough squad to take risks by developing players in the first team. A cowardice in this regard has plagued Chelsea managers since Ancelotti, and I can only assume that it comes from pressure from up high.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

My two cents on RLC;

1.) if he goes on loan to vitesse, we can forget him.

2.) if Mou converts him into DM, without much freedom, he will become Mikel 2.0.

Hopefuly those two things wont happen.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

He pressed high up the pitch very well , in the game against italy (rlc)

He doesn't need the pressure of playing in the pivot

He also has some dynamism in him, too - he wouldn't destroy further creativity.

Yeah, no 10 is probably best for him - you have to be a very mature player to play in a 2 man central midfield.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Vitesse would of been perfect, really don't think he's at the level to be a regular here, he needs minutes and playing every week in the Dutch league, where their is an emphasis on technique and playing a specific way with the ball would of been good for him. Think we could regret this if he doesn't live up to a certain standard. 10 mins in games we are comfortable, cup ties against piss poor teams and U21s fixtures isn't going to challenge him or bring him on any further in his career.

[RhesusReus 219]

He also has some dynamism in him, too - he wouldn't destroy further creativity.

Yeah, no 10 is probably best for him - you have to be a very mature player to play in a 2 man central midfield.

How is #10 best for him? He's very poor under pressure. He can't really work in tight areas. We saw this in the post-season games where he just sort of ran into people and lost the ball, rather than maneuver in the space.

His best attribute has always been running with the ball. That comes from playing in midfield. Yeah, it takes maturity to play in midfield, but we have Matic.

Remember how dominant a Matic-Luiz midfield was? Matic did all the right things, and Luiz took the risks. Matic is an immense player and anyone beside him will not be exposed if they make mistakes. He's a big reason why Cesc has done better than expected at CM. Dude is a machine.

If Jose actually plays RLC, it will be in midfield. As a #10, RLC lacks immensely in technical ability.

[RhesusReus 219]

Vitesse would of been perfect, really don't think he's at the level to be a regular here, he needs minutes and playing every week in the Dutch league, where their is an emphasis on technique and playing a specific way with the ball would of been good for him. Think we could regret this if he doesn't live up to a certain standard. 10 mins in games we are comfortable, cup ties against piss poor teams and U21s fixtures isn't going to challenge him or bring him on any further in his career.

But working in a squad with the likes of Matic, Cesc, Hazard and all the other top class professional will bring him further in his career. Not to mention learning the position and system directly from Jose will be huge.

We play between 50-60 games in a season. There are plenty of minutes there for RLC. All he has to do is be better than Mikel and Ramires at CM and he will get minutes. Between them the pair made 20 starts in the EPL alone.

[ZanSnake 1,211]

But working in a squad with the likes of Matic, Cesc, Hazard and all the other top class professional will bring him further in his career. Not to mention learning the position and system directly from Jose will be huge.

We play between 50-60 games in a season. There are plenty of minutes there for RLC. All he has to do is be better than Mikel and Ramires at CM and he will get minutes. Between them the pair made 20 starts in the EPL alone.

With both rumoured to be going to Turkey, he could replace them as a squad player. Hopefully he'll get more time in the EPL plus the LC and early-FA Cup Rounds could add more game time and make a better impression.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

But working in a squad with the likes of Matic, Cesc, Hazard and all the other top class professional will bring him further in his career. Not to mention learning the position and system directly from Jose will be huge.

We play between 50-60 games in a season. There are plenty of minutes there for RLC. All he has to do is be better than Mikel and Ramires at CM and he will get minutes. Between them the pair made 20 starts in the EPL alone.

Sure lets play him maybe 10-15 times a season where he could go to Vitesse and play every game or close enough. If there is one way to potentially ruin a young players career it is possibly deciding to do that ha.

[RhesusReus 219]

Sure lets play him maybe 10-15 times a season where he could go to Vitesse and play every game or close enough. If there is one way to potentially ruin a young players career it is possibly deciding to do that ha.

yeah, because loans are always a better option. Josh Mceachran says hello.

fact is no one knows the sure fire way to develop players. Jose seems to think there are players who need loans and there are players that are better off being integrated into the 1st team at a young age. He felt Izzy Brown, Baker and Christensen needed loans, and feels that RLC doesn't.

At the moment, I'll go with Jose on this one.