Lucas Piazón

[ja1 1,166]

Is he more likely at Malaga? For the time being we only have Mata, Hazard, Oscar, failing-to-impress Marin, and Piazon - this could has been his chance, in January, to make an impact. It feels like we are rushing things, there is no need to fast-track him. While I will be very impressed if he makes a great impact, I anticipate he'll get the odd sub appearance here and there (like I said I'd gladly be proved wrong).

Championship would have been much better, it has done Chalobah a world of good because he is already at the level of a top Championship player, probably more, but imagine how confident and just in general content he'll be with his regular game-time and doing well, while I foresee another McEachran - type loan here. And if we did loan him, I would have preferred to see it at the end of Jan at least, give him a chance when he would have got some. With Europa League and Moses to ACON this Jan I'd actually not be surprised if he'd get the same amount of appearances here.

Anyway, best of luck to him. Moving away from Piazon, I wonder what the club are planning. We must be looking to buy a player this Jan then, yet another no.10 as the club for some reason have out themselves in that situation. Our targets bar Willian are all fleeting away. Plus, say we got Isco/Willian or whoever, we could quite easily be looking at having Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Moses, Marin, Isco/whoever, Piazon, KDB(depending on where he's played), all competing for the same 3 spots. This is not even thinking about Kakuta, Benayoun..though they will most likely go. Hmm...

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Good for him, he needs the playing time and wasn't getting it with Chelsea.

[Chelsea? 892]

Spain is gonna make him really technical, I'm excited.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Is he more likely at Malaga? For the time being we only have Mata, Hazard, Oscar, failing-to-impress Marin, and Piazon - this could has been his chance, in January, to make an impact. It feels like we are rushing things, there is no need to fast-track him. While I will be very impressed if he makes a great impact, I anticipate he'll get the odd sub appearance here and there (like I said I'd gladly be proved wrong).

Championship would have been much better, it has done Chalobah a world of good because he is already at the level of a top Championship player, probably more, but imagine how confident and just in general content he'll be with his regular game-time and doing well, while I foresee another McEachran - type loan here. And if we did loan him, I would have preferred to see it at the end of Jan at least, give him a chance when he would have got some. With Europa League and Moses to ACON this Jan I'd actually not be surprised if he'd get the same amount of appearances here.

Anyway, best of luck to him. Moving away from Piazon, I wonder what the club are planning. We must be looking to buy a player this Jan then, yet another no.10 as the club for some reason have out themselves in that situation. Our targets bar Willian are all fleeting away. Plus, say we got Isco/Willian or whoever, we could quite easily be looking at having Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Moses, Marin, Isco/whoever, Piazon, KDB(depending on where he's played), all competing for the same 3 spots. This is not even thinking about Kakuta, Benayoun..though they will most likely go. Hmm...

Exactly this! Would have liked him to stay with us till the rest of the season, get the odd minutes off the bench in the cups and EL and play with the reserves and NextGen series then loan him out to the championship next season. He only just started to get used to English football, why loan him abroad? I fear we are rushing things with him. But good luck to him in Spain.

[Land 331]

But if he does perform well,it will be in La Liga right in front of everyone against great teams,miles better than championship scrubs So that would give him a bigger chance of playing for us

[Mr_President 404]

Goodluck to him, hope he gets some minutes. Pellegrini is a good coach too and if he really did request the loan move then hopefully he has intentions of playing him.

[DONI. 1,291]

Lucas Piazon ‏@LucasPiazon

Just arrived at the hotel in Málaga , spent all day at the club and now is everything ready to start training! Tks everyone for the support

Lucas Piazon ‏@LucasPiazon

Gracias a los fans de Malaga por las mensagens

[ZanSnake 1,211]

could do well for his development if he can get some time against Real, Barca and At Madrid

[OneMoSalah 8,778]

Bit suspicious about this move, I don't think hes anywhere near ready for a team of that quality, no offence to him. Thought the championship or a lower PL club would have been better. Or a lower La Liga team. Hopefully not another Josh at Swansea loan.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Bit suspicious about this move, I don't think hes anywhere near ready for a team of that quality, no offence to him. Thought the championship or a lower PL club would have been better. Or a lower La Liga team. Hopefully not another Josh at Swansea loan.

Or if we are in for Isco are they lining up a Piazon and cash deal? Or swop?

[Leif 6,006]

Not trying to sound harsh - but take away his nationality and his similar appearance to Kaka for a moment. Let's pretend he's English and his name is Bob Stewart or something.

What is he actually good at? What makes people think he's good enough to even be on our bench? This isn't a rhetorical question but a genuine one.

From what I've seen, his passing is average, pace is slightly above average, shooting is quite bad, vision is great, dribbling is slightly above average, control and first touch are kinda crap apart from the odd wonder-movement, and that's all I can think of really. Is great vision really enough?

[Ollie 4,400]

Wow this really is a top move. To go to a very good Spanish Premier team could do absolute wonders for his career. You know this guy is gonna make it.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Not trying to sound harsh - but take away his nationality and his similar appearance to Kaka for a moment. Let's pretend he's English and his name is Bob Stewart or something.

What is he actually good at? What makes people think he's good enough to even be on our bench? This isn't a rhetorical question but a genuine one.

From what I've seen, his passing is average, pace is slightly above average, shooting is quite bad, vision is great, dribbling is slightly above average, control and first touch are kinda crap apart from the odd wonder-movement, and that's all I can think of really. Is great vision really enough?

If he was English, we'd be proclaiming him as the next.....I don't know. I can't think of an English player like him. Maybe David Bentley? That's not to say he's as shit as David Bentley, but we don't really produce players like him. Suffice to say if he was English, he'd be overhyped.

He's a very classy player who glides across the pitch and that means he sometimes glides in and out of games too. He needs to work on asserting himself more in games and really grabbing hold of them. When he gets the ball you don't expect him to lose it and sometimes he'll do amazing things, but not often enough perhaps based on the expectation surrounding him.

But he is still very young and he's in a similar position to Josh in many respects. He's got a lot of talent but he's got to find a way to utilise it more effectively during matches. I can think of worse men to spend 6 months under (ooh err) than Pelligrini.

Or if we are in for Isco are they lining up a Piazon and cash deal? Or swop?

Could just be a way of pushing us to the front of the line come Summer. I'd be loathe to lose him whoever we brought in.

Ultimately even if he doesn't get game time, he gets a chance to train in a new environment under a new set of coaches at an age where he's still learning what being a footballer is all about. He wasn't about to get much time on the pitch here and I'll be honest, I trust our club to place youngsters on worthwhile loans most of the time.

[bushman 2,043]

Look at it from his point of view. At least, he will sit around a warmer bench there. It certainly beats cold London.

[Thomas Williams 166]

I would have loved him to go to the spanish league, but I would have liked it to be a bottom team there, or at least bottom half- mid level. Malaga is a quality team that already has a good attacking midfield...I can't see him getting a lot there. I'd rather play him every odd game here at Chelsea than for him to play every odd game at Malaga.

But if he does get to play a lot, it will be great experience, so hopefully we know what we're doing on moves like this.

[Chelsea? 892]

Not trying to sound harsh - but take away his nationality and his similar appearance to Kaka for a moment. Let's pretend he's English and his name is Bob Stewart or something.

What is he actually good at? What makes people think he's good enough to even be on our bench? This isn't a rhetorical question but a genuine one.

From what I've seen, his passing is average, pace is slightly above average, shooting is quite bad, vision is great, dribbling is slightly above average, control and first touch are kinda crap apart from the odd wonder-movement, and that's all I can think of really. Is great vision really enough?

Josh is similar in his strengths and weaknes. Except the physic part. And I would say josh is more hyped than piazon.

[themightyblue 443]

Not trying to sound harsh - but take away his nationality and his similar appearance to Kaka for a moment. Let's pretend he's English and his name is Bob Stewart or something.

What is he actually good at? What makes people think he's good enough to even be on our bench? This isn't a rhetorical question but a genuine one.

From what I've seen, his passing is average, pace is slightly above average, shooting is quite bad, vision is great, dribbling is slightly above average, control and first touch are kinda crap apart from the odd wonder-movement, and that's all I can think of really. Is great vision really enough?

I don't think you've watched Piazon closely enough........at all

[ja1 1,166]

Not trying to sound harsh - but take away his nationality and his similar appearance to Kaka for a moment. Let's pretend he's English and his name is Bob Stewart or something.

What is he actually good at? What makes people think he's good enough to even be on our bench? This isn't a rhetorical question but a genuine one.

From what I've seen, his passing is average, pace is slightly above average, shooting is quite bad, vision is great, dribbling is slightly above average, control and first touch are kinda crap apart from the odd wonder-movement, and that's all I can think of really. Is great vision really enough?

Unpopular opinion here, sorru, but I agree. Not that he isn't a good talent - but the whole fact he is a young playmaker from Brazil generally makes people overrate him. I remember when we wee first looking to sign him, no one had even heard of him but quite alot of people were saying he would be going straight into the first team, (not necessarily on this forum). And his first few months in England were actually quite poor, it was not until the latter stages of the FAYC that he grew into things and showed some of his talent, but he somehow automatically became our reserves' best player. He has also looked pretty poor in his first team appearances so far(bar Villa). Generally I find he always over dribbles the ball, both at youth and the couple of starts he had, will get past one and then panics, becomes indicisive, and dribbles into a defender. Once he learns when to release it he can become a good player.