Kevin de Bruyne

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Don't see any point in blaming Jose now that he has gone. If he is still around then it is quite 'acceptable' imo, so that he could 'hear' us and hopefully he won't make any 'mistake' like that again or for an extreme case, want him to be sacked, etc. It seems Jose will never return again so the case is finished for good.

Don't see any point on digging every our ex-managers 'mistakes', who doesn't anyway? just completely pointless. Now that we will have a new one in Conte, let's focus on the future ahead.

[MCM4PR3Z 411]

12 hours ago, Special Juan said:

 

KdB

Club	Season	League1			Cup		League Cup		Continental		Other2		Total		Ref.
		League	Apps	Goals	Apps	Goals	Apps	Goals	Apps	Goals	Apps	Goals	Apps	Goals
Genk	2008–09	Pro League	2	0	0	0	—		—				2		[3][72]
	2009–10		35	3	2	0			2	0	1	0	40	3	[3][72]
	2010–11		32	5	0	0			3	1	0	0	35	6	[3][72]
	2011–12		28	8	1	0			6	0	1	0	36	8	[3][72]
	Totals Genk		97	16	3	0			11	1	2	0	113	17	—
Werder Bremen (loan)	2012–13	Bundesliga	33	10	1	0			—		—		34	10	[73]
Chelsea	2013–14	Premier League	3	0	0	0	3	0	3	0			9		[3]
Wolfsburg	2013–14	Bundesliga	16	3	2	0	—		—				18	3	[74]
	2014–15		34	10	6	1			11	5			51	16	[75]
	2015–16		1	0	1	1			0	0	1	0	3	1	[3]
	Totals Wolfsburg		51	13	9	2			11	5	1	0	72	20	—
Manchester City	2015–16	Premier League	20	6	1	1	5	5	8	3	—		34	15	[3]
Career totals			203	45	14	3	8	5	33	9	3	0	260	63	—

 

Most useless table ever, if you consider that his assists are 10 times more recognizable than his goals.

[MCM4PR3Z 411]

12 hours ago, RoyalBlues said:

 

 

 

That is something to be proved first that it will not ever happened. But, considering the trends reactions in most of our ex players thread when they scored or having a good run, I don't think there will be any different with Oscar if he indeed succeed in another club. Someone will always coming out for it and asking something like, 'why we sell him again?' reaction, never mind how much the time he spent here, because in everybody's mind will only have the thought of 'we messed up again, man'. 

Point that he do the same thing like KDB did, if we sell Oscar to Wolfsburg and he did well, how if the same thing happened, City or MU perhaps buy him and he do 'well' like KDB this season? Viola, we would get exactly the same kind of reaction in Oscar thread on ex-Chelsea section. If not, that is a 'double standard' then.

 You just forget the tiny detail that Oscar is 10 times less talented than KDB. He has played every game in 4 seasons at Chelsea and has proven he's absolute shit. KDB was brilliant overall when he played for us and got almost no chances at all from Mou.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

15 minutes ago, MCM4PR3Z said:

 You just forget the tiny detail that Oscar is 10 times less talented than KDB. He has played every game in 4 seasons at Chelsea and has proven he's absolute shit. KDB was brilliant overall when he played for us and got almost no chances at all from Mou.

If he is shit here, no one could guarantee that he will shit too at another club, who knows unless you are time traveler, than I will trust you. And the point in my post you quoted, is that I think there will be a same reaction for him too, just like at the moment in this thread, if he did the same route like KDB someday. Nobody will care much whether he is shit in certain period with us in the past. Only thought of 'Why we sell him again?' all over it.

To be honest, I don't really care about our ex that much. If we sell Oscar, whether he is shit or become ballon d'or winner, no problem. Just pointed out the reaction for KDB case is unnecessary.

[lucio 5,418]

1 hour ago, RoyalBlues said:

If he is shit here, no one could guarantee that he will shit too at another club, who knows unless you are time traveler, than I will trust you. And the point in my post you quoted, is that I think there will be a same reaction for him too, just like at the moment in this thread, if he did the same route like KDB someday. Nobody will care much whether he is shit in certain period with us in the past. Only thought of 'Why we sell him again?' all over it.

To be honest, I don't really care about our ex that much. If we sell Oscar, whether he is shit or become ballon d'or winner, no problem. Just pointed out the reaction for KDB case is unnecessary.

oscar lacks any attributes, kdb was multi talented, you could see that in his Genk days. even if oscar did well elsewhere, no one would care, just like no one misses torres when he scores last week.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

18 minutes ago, lucio said:

oscar lacks any attributes, kdb was multi talented, you could see that in his Genk days. even if oscar did well elsewhere, no one would care, just like no one misses torres when he scores last week.

Oscar was 'multi talented' too back then in Internacional, if you want a talent comparison. Again, that needs to be proved it first, as many indications say otherwise at the moment. I assume you're not serious to compare it with Torres, no? I don't even have to argue about that.

[lucio 5,418]

3 minutes ago, RoyalBlues said:

Oscar was 'multi talented' too back then in Internacional, if you want a talent comparison. Again, that needs to be proved it first, as many indications say otherwise at the moment. I assume you're not serious to compare it with Torres, no? I don't even have to argue about that.

oscar is 2nd only to torres in terms of fan hatred.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

8 minutes ago, lucio said:

oscar is 2nd only to torres in terms of fan hatred.

Have to agree with that. Cheers.

Oscar is 'still' 24, and he is still have some room for improvement base on his age, that make it really different case with Torres. And also we're having Diego that clearly much better than Torres, that's why nobody crying for him.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

9 hours ago, Essien19 said:

I for one don't think it was just a show, he often got a heavy fine for saying some things he shouldn't have, but he stood up for us, yes i know he was on big bucks.
He criticized the atmosphere and he's got a point, too many tourists and less cheering, imo. At the end he said thank you to our support. Fair play, imo.

Yes, this season we lost and lost and lost, especially the game against the new boys Bournemouth was really bad, what can i say, there's nothing to say to make it better, sadly.
I knew that the term 'plastic' would trigger problems and i didn't want that. I wasn't actually talking about you, just fed up with the lack of respect of some on here,
i had the feeling that as i said above you are around for quite some time and far longer than me and i was right. Incredible stuff!

I just wish that there isn't as much rushing as it is. I don't like the sacking but things were really bad, that's all i have to say.
No problems with you and sorry for the word, should have put it better.

Anyway, we should stop talking in this particular thread about Jose because otherwise Special Juan will get very angry, wrong topic.

Regards!

No problem mate

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

9 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I love Guus to bits but the only difference is that the players have been prepared to try for him. Had they been ready to try for Jose we'd be above 10th but they fooled themselves into believing that they are as good as they imagine themselves to be. They decided that they could go out and play however they liked and still win football matches. They have presumably learned now that they are not as good as they imagined. Only Jose could win with this mob and then only if they implemented his plans.

I do think that the manager/coach is picking the team without interference but I suppose it's fair enough to speculate that he may not be. I find it harder to see what you mean by corruption however. Was it just a throw away word that you didn't really mean, or are you being serious?

I guess corruption might be a stronger term than what i was originally looking for.
I was referring mostly to the questionable decisions that have been made recently, from staff, to recruitment, to first XI, mostly pinned down on one, or in some cases, two men.
Of course those could be genuine mistakes, simple lack of judgement, favouritism, or being unqualified to perform a job. But i don't believe it far fetched, that some of these decisions have been made with ulterior motives in mind, and in some cases not even taken by the two men in question.
Sadly, it is the nature of every environment in which money flows in large quantities.

[the wes 7,212]

[Last Sicarius 610]

24 minutes ago, the wes said:

But he was to lazy :/

[Special Juan 28,133]

What was lazy was the clubs outlook.

[The Chels 2,502]

 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

On April 14, 2016 at 5:11 PM, the wes said:

 

Really proved the club wrong this season.