🇧🇪 Kevin de Bruyne

[Stats 7,142]

10 minutes ago, RoyalBlues said:

 

 

 

That is something to be proved first that it will not ever happened. But, considering the trends reactions in most of our ex players thread when they scored or having a good run, I don't think there will be any different with Oscar if he indeed succeed in another club. Someone will always coming out for it and asking something like, 'why we sell him again?' reaction, never mind how much the time he spent here, because in everybody's mind will only have the thought of 'we messed up again, man'. 

Point that he do the same thing like KDB did, if we sell Oscar to Wolfsburg and he did well, how if the same thing happened, City or MU perhaps buy him and he do 'well' like KDB this season? Viola, we would get exactly the same kind of reaction in Oscar thread on ex-Chelsea section. If not, that is a 'double standard' then.

Well Kalou is doing tremendously well at Hertha Berlin and did so at Lille. Look at his thread. And he was better fo us than Oscar was for us, so I disagree with that.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

1 minute ago, Stats said:

Well Kalou is doing tremendously well at Hertha Berlin and did so at Lille. Look at his thread. And he was better fo us than Oscar was for us, so I disagree with that.

Are you trying to pointed out one of the exception? Look at other ex-players threads I suggest, as I said most, not all of it.

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17 minutes ago, RoyalBlues said:

Are you trying to pointed out one of the exception? Look at other ex-players threads I suggest, as I said most, not all of it.

So what is your explanation for the lack of dicussion in Kalou's thread? He is one who we sold who has gone on to score goals for fun.

The truth is KDB is a world class player and many of us at the time were annoyed he was not given enough chances. He was so young at the time too.

If Oscar leaves and does wonders at his new club that is good for him however I would not say we made the wrong decision because his time here has been full of inconsistent performances.

Players like Lukaku and KDB were let go too early without being given the minutes to prove themselves hence the reactions. Players like Kalou and co were sold and got fair share of minutes and were inconsistent but ultimately do I think the move was best for us and player? Yes.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

2 minutes ago, Stats said:

So what is your explanation for the lack of dicussion in Kalou's thread? He is one who we sold who has gone on to score goals for fun.

The truth is KDB is a world class player and many of us at the time were annoyed he was not given enough chances. He was so young at the time too.

If Oscar leaves and does wonders at his new club that is good for him however I would not say we made the wrong decision because his time here has been full of inconsitent performances.

Players like Lukaku and KDB were let go too early without being given the minutes to prove themselves hence the reactions. Players like Kalou and co were but ultimately do I think the move was best for us and player? Yes.

Kalou age, fully developed as a player (no more room of 'big' improvements), play as a sub most of the time in his last season here, play in a league with 'weaker' opponents there, he is well suited with the team there, he done it because he has got enough chances there, we've got better players than him in his position considering last seasons team performance, etc, why nobody crying for him. Think it should be enough reasons.

Again it is need to be proved it first for Oscar. The 'trends' at the moment, would say otherwise.

[The Mak 4,459]

3 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

No one knows why the ginger maestro left. But to say it was Mourinhos sole decision is stupid. There are six people including Buck and Emanalo along with the owner and manager that have a casting vote on ins and outs of playing staff. I would also tend to believe a belgian journo over someone with random letters and numbers on a forum, as a moniker, and its a bit disingenuous to disrespect and say everyone here is up mourinhos arse. I also for some reason cant take anyone seriously who calls him Mou ?. 

 

 

As much I usually agree with you, I have to completely disagree with this one.

Mourinho forced the KDB sale by refusing to play him - it's 90% on Mourinho. It's clear from the interviews that KDB is very much a confidence player who needs to feel wanted but KDB himself has said that Mourinho wouldn't even speak to him - he wouldn't even tell him why he wasn't in the team. I'm sorry, but that is fucking atrocious management; especially considering the boy is now being considered as one of the best two-footed players in the game right now.  

Now, I know I was also saying how much the board was at fault for our current position, but that was because they replaced these players very poorly. In KDB's case, maybe the board could've tried to send him on loan instead of sell him, but, in all honesty, WTF would've been the point in that when they and KDB knew the manager wanted nothing to do with him? In KDB's mind he was never getting a chance at Chelsea under Mourinho, so what was the point in staying at Chelsea? Maybe if Mourinho bothered to do some actual man management and encouraged him in some form, he may have stayed on the books someway, but he didn't. 

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3 minutes ago, RoyalBlues said:

Kalou age, fully developed as a player (no more room of 'big' improvements), play as a sub most of the time in his last season here, play in a league with 'weaker' opponents there, he is well suited with the team there, he done it because he has got enough chances there, we've got better players than him in his position considering last seasons team performance, etc, why nobody crying for him. Think it should be enough reasons.

Again it is need to be proved it first for Oscar. The 'trends' at the moment, would say otherwise.

All I can say to that is Oscar might be younger and not fully developed but he has got more than enough chances here. The players that you see people moaning about are justified by 1 because we know they did not get enough chances or 2, they are better than the ones we kept here (Mata and KDB are better than Oscar).

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

1 hour ago, Stats said:

All I can say to that is Oscar might be younger and not fully developed but he has got more than enough chances here. The players that you see people moaning about are justified by 1 because we know they did not get enough chances or 2, they are better than the ones we kept here (Mata and KDB are better than Oscar).

or 3, we dumped the player, but it happened he could do much better at another team than when he was here, never mind we already have a better player than him or not.

Actually, if Oscar did the same route like KDB, than it could be fall in on your second point though.

[Fernando 6,585]

We just see a player that Mourinho bought and now the difference with Felipe Luis.

You can't just get any more example at how it was the fault of Mourinho for a lot of the players downturn.

Felipe Luis is back to being boss with Simeone at Atletico.

It truly was down to Mourinho woeful man management.

He was good in the past now he's just a shadow.

 

[Essien19 1,415]

Kevin trained here for a few months, so he had opportunities to shine.

When he's not playing, his attitude is not the best ask, just ask Allofs.

Kevin needed time to mature, happens in life.

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[Fernando 6,585]

1 minute ago, Essien19 said:

Kevin trained here for a few months, so he had opportunities to shine.

When he's not playing, his attitude is not the best ask, just ask Allofs.

Kevin needed time to mature, happens in life.

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Nah it's now clear that it's Mourinho.

Loses player at Real now at Chelsea.

Totally different Mourinho from the first time. He just lost it and is just a shadow.

Simeone today is what Mourinho used to be before.

[Essien19 1,415]

Nah it's now clear that it's Mourinho.

Loses player at Real now at Chelsea.

Totally different Mourinho from the first time. He just lost it and is just a shadow.

Simeone today is what Mourinho used to be before.

Sure Mourinho has to take some of the blame, but here's what i disagree with you, i don't think it's all on him.

Would be too easy, but this is what earns you many likes on TC these days, so it must be right. [emoji4]

He's gone but even more targeted, i remember when people told me we aren't Mourinho FC, but he's all over the place. People seem very desperate to reach an agreement that he's a shit manager today and there isn't any threat, doesn't matter where he goes.

I'm already looking forward when he's back in business and his thread comes back to light because of spectular performances. [emoji2]

[Essien19 1,415]

On 12.4.2016 at 10:29 PM, lucio said:

 

I've seen a lot lately but what the fuck is this doing on a Chelsea board?! Insulting an Ex-Chelsea man who tried, took the blame and paid for all the mistakes with his job.
That's not the way we treat a former boss around here, shameful stuff, actually disgusted by it.
 

 

 

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

13 minutes ago, Essien19 said:

I've seen a lot lately but what the fuck is this doing on a Chelsea board?! Insulting an Ex-Chelsea man who tried, took the blame and paid for all the mistakes with his job.
That's not the way we treat a former boss around here, shameful stuff, actually disgusted by it.
 

 

 

Your nothing but a Mourinho apologist you can't see the wood for the trees. Mourinho is yesterdays man which will become apparent to the unfortunate club that he manages next. Things are never black and white but do you think he could have taken a 5000-1 team at the start of the season to nailed on champions a team of free transfers and rejects could he fuck. Could he totally mismanage a team that cost a fortune full of established internationals into a team just above the relegation zone yes he could and did.

[11Drogba 2,000]

1 hour ago, Essien19 said:

 

I'm already looking forward when he's back in business and his thread comes back to light because of spectular performances.

The best part will be his turd season.

[Fernando 6,585]

2 hours ago, Essien19 said:

 

 

Sure Mourinho has to take some of the blame, but here's what i disagree with you, i don't think it's all on him.

 

Would be too easy, but this is what earns you many likes on TC these days, so it must be right.

 

He's gone but even more targeted, i remember when people told me we aren't Mourinho FC, but he's all over the place. People seem very desperate to reach an agreement that he's a shit manager today and there isn't any threat, doesn't matter where he goes.

 

I'm already looking forward when he's back in business and his thread comes back to light because of spectular performances.

No doubt he will do good the first and second season. But then he will get in fight with everyone losing the dressing room like at Real and Chelsea. 

 

[Essien19 1,415]

7 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

Your nothing but a Mourinho apologist you can't see the wood for the trees. Mourinho is yesterdays man which will become apparent to the unfortunate club that he manages next. Things are never black and white but do you think he could have taken a 5000-1 team at the start of the season to nailed on champions a team of free transfers and rejects could he fuck. Could he totally mismanage a team that cost a fortune full of established internationals into a team just above the relegation zone yes he could and did.

Is this enough to insult a man who has done so much for us? Because of what, one abysmal half of a season?!
I'm under the impression that you have been around for a very long time, longer than me, but with all due respect and nothing personal against you
are you actually trying to justify these kind of treatment? Excuse me but that sounds knee-jerk and plastic, ouch....
Most of the Chelsea fans i know would never ever boo or talk this kind of shit about former heroes, i mean things like welcoming chants 'fuck you Mourinho' and so on....unbelievable. Because i don't want to go down that road i'm labeled an apologist? Nice, really nice!

For the record, we were temporarily down at the bottom half of the table, we'll never know where we would have finished at the end of the season...
you said things are never black and white, but you're just talking about one half of a season, because of that, it's enough to not only show him the door
but also insult him as much as possible.

Yes, i already admitted it, he made mistakes, but this doesn't warrant these unbearable things which one has to read on here.

I'm sorry, but i'm not okay with that!
 

[Essien19 1,415]

2 minutes ago, Fernando said:

No doubt he will do good the first and second season. But then he will get in fight with everyone losing the dressing room like at Real and Chelsea. 

 

Maybe he'll never learn, but what's never good for Chelsea is another English club winning trophies, that costs the club big time!
2 years is quite a spell, just look at the rags, back in the summer 15 they were thirsty and would've welcomed any trophy, but no trophy.

Anyway, we're going in circles, need to find another topic, otherwise this won't end well.

Regards!

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

15 minutes ago, Essien19 said:

Is this enough to insult a man who has done so much for us? Because of what, one abysmal half of a season?!
I'm under the impression that you have been around for a very long time, longer than me, but with all due respect and nothing personal against you
are you actually trying to justify these kind of treatment? Excuse me but that sounds knee-jerk and plastic, ouch....
Most of the Chelsea fans i know would never ever boo or talk this kind of shit about former heroes, i mean things like welcoming chants 'fuck you Mourinho' and so on....unbelievable. Because i don't want to go down that road i'm labeled an apologist? Nice, really nice!

For the record, we were temporarily down at the bottom half of the table, we'll never know where we would have finished at the end of the season...
you said things are never black and white, but you're just talking about one half of a season, because of that, it's enough to not only show him the door
but also insult him as much as possible.

Yes, i already admitted it, he made mistakes, but this doesn't warrant these unbearable things which one has to read on here.

I'm sorry, but i'm not okay with that!
 

Talk is cheap mate one of us don't make me laugh just a soundbite. How many times has he slagged off our support and yet say how he was impressed by Liverpool's and wish the Bridge can be like Anfield. If you look at the video posted it's quite clearly the away fans singing Fuck off Mourinho. As for where we would have ended up after losing nine out of sixteen games and losing to  Bouremouth's reserves well god only knows but we certainly wouldn't be better off. As for calling someone plastic I've been a Chelsea fan for 46 years and followed them all over England and Europe what about you ?.

[Essien19 1,415]

36 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

Talk is cheap mate one of us don't make me laugh just a soundbite. How many times has he slagged off our support and yet say how he was impressed by Liverpool's and wish the Bridge can be like Anfield. If you look at the video posted it's quite clearly the away fans singing Fuck off Mourinho. As for where we would have ended up after losing nine out of sixteen games and losing to  Bouremouth's reserves well god only knows but we certainly wouldn't be better off. As for calling someone plastic I've been a Chelsea fan for 46 years and followed them all over England and Europe what about you ?.

I for one don't think it was just a show, he often got a heavy fine for saying some things he shouldn't have, but he stood up for us, yes i know he was on big bucks.
He criticized the atmosphere and he's got a point, too many tourists and less cheering, imo. At the end he said thank you to our support. Fair play, imo.

Yes, this season we lost and lost and lost, especially the game against the new boys Bournemouth was really bad, what can i say, there's nothing to say to make it better, sadly.
I knew that the term 'plastic' would trigger problems and i didn't want that. I wasn't actually talking about you, just fed up with the lack of respect of some on here,
i had the feeling that as i said above you are around for quite some time and far longer than me and i was right. Incredible stuff!

I just wish that there isn't as much rushing as it is. I don't like the sacking but things were really bad, that's all i have to say.
No problems with you and sorry for the word, should have put it better.

Anyway, we should stop talking in this particular thread about Jose because otherwise Special Juan will get very angry, wrong topic.

Regards!

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Obviously, if now we're 10th with Guus, would be fair to say we'd be somewhere between 10th and 14th with José.
Nothing has changed. Nothing.
Oscar and Ivanovic keep getting minutes, Rlc started getting minutes only recently, when there was nothing more to play for.
Only thing Guus has brought that José didn't is Traoré, and i'm very well glad for it. Other than that, nothing. Players are happier? Of course they are  They got their wish.
And btw i'm not even so sure anymore managers pick up the lineup. Who knows what kind shit and corruption is behind the scenes.