AndersonBLUE 819 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 And I'd never want to include Oscar in any deal. There is enough evidence to support that without him we are nowhere close to a UCL challenging team. Jose has built this team around him and we've to live with it.what? no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Zouma needs to get on the phone to Pogba!AND VARANE!!!!Juve hadn't lost a home game for 47 matches till today, I think they should just give us him. Hes obviously crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomius 12 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Just let it play out, don't know why so many come on here and say "its never gonna happen" "Who is this internet ITK?" "Juve will never sell" "They lost Pirlo, Tevez and Vidal" "Juve gave him the no.10" Who cares about that shit??1. everyone has a price and if Chelsea make an offer Juve can't refuse he will go! FACT2. What does it matter if you've never heard of this @mohd_tagaya fella? Its clear he has some connections since he has had a history of breaking stories. Chelsea usually keep things hush, hush but this fella seems to be getting the scoop before anyone else. How is that possible? Perhaps the club is giving british journos the scoop anymore? Even that clown Beasley has been backtracking3. Of course Juve will sell and they are interested in our players as well. Its a tool we have in the negotiations that no one else has.4. How does losing Pirlo (who is a dinosaur), Tevez and Vidal mean they won't sell Pogba? Did they not buy as well? Dybala, Khedira, Mandzukic, Pereyra... Do they look like they're done? They know they can't keep Pogba forever, he will go at some point and we have to money and players to test their resolve.5. If Pogba gets moved can't someone else take the no.10? what's in a number?Pogba takes the n.10 two weeks ago...and he asked for it.No way Juventus will improvise at 24 August with the 100 millions from Pogba. Probably we will sell him next summer and we will make from now 1 year transfer negotiations to get the players we need after selling him, this is juventus modus operandi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Pogba takes the n.10 two weeks ago...and he asked for it.No way Juventus will improvise at 24 August with the 100 millions from Pogba. Probably we will sell him next summer and we will make from now 1 year transfer negotiations to get the players we need after selling him, this is juventus modus operandi.What makes you think they don't already have deals pending? you don't think Juve has offers in for other players? You think they want to replace Pogba with another €100m player? I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Pogba takes the n.10 two weeks ago...and he asked for it.No way Juventus will improvise at 24 August with the 100 millions from Pogba. Probably we will sell him next summer and we will make from now 1 year transfer negotiations to get the players we need after selling him, this is juventus modus operandi.The way you clinge to that n.10 argument gives away some degree of desperation. Cuadrado got a new number a few weeks ago, too. Not that I am sure it will happen. But the squad no is not an argument. I am waiting for someone to come around the corner with "he is on a Fifa cover" argument. I appreciate your contribution here and understand you want to keep your best player, but whether it will happens or not, you know as much about it as anyone here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 433 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 What makes you think they don't already have deals pending? you don't think Juve has offers in for other players? You think they want to replace Pogba with another €100m player? I don't.Why would juve sell? they dont need the money. Pogba's price isnt going to go down, why wouldnt they keep him till next summer and let every top club in the world have a bidding war. Even if they got £80m now they are only going to replace him with someone worse. Also they got a nice big cheque for getting into the champs league final and the money will be more useful next summer to balance the books.Anyway i really really hope i'm wrong and we do somehow get him but i can't see how we could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 At times like this, the transfer window can't close soon enough. Ridiculous people read so much into some rumour spread by a nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantomius 12 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 The way you clinge to that n.10 argument gives away some degree of desperation. Cuadrado got a new number a few weeks ago, too.Not that I am sure it will happen. But the squad no is not an argument. I am waiting for someone to come around the corner with "he is on a Fifa cover" argument.I appreciate your contribution here and understand you want to keep your best player, but whether it will happens or not, you know as much about it as anyone here.There is a misunderstanding, Pogba leaving in these days is such an hilarious thing that make me incredulous seeing topics like this focused on nothing.I'm still here just because I can't really understand how could you believe in such an absurdity.I wanted to alert you about it to avoid you to spend your hopes and thoughts about it and be displeased at the end of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Cuardado plus 85+m euros would improve that good squad mightily. Hell, they may go for Witsel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I'm really gonna enjoy the meltdown on the site if we do sign him! gonna be classic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Why would juve sell? they dont need the money. Pogba's price isnt going to go down, why wouldnt they keep him till next summer and let every top club in the world have a bidding war. Even if they got £80m now they are only going to replace him with someone worse. Also they got a nice big cheque for getting into the champs league final and the money will be more useful next summer to balance the books.Anyway i really really hope i'm wrong and we do somehow get him but i can't see how we could. Because they can't hold onto him forever and the market for him right now is hot. Also who knows what is being said behind closed doors? If you make them an offer they can't refuse he will go, it is a business after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 433 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Because they can't hold onto him forever and the market for him right now is hot. Also who knows what is being said behind closed doors? If you make them an offer they can't refuse he will go, it is a business after all.But they can refuse, whatever we can realistically offer now they will still be able to get if not more next summer. His price is only going to go up especially when barca lose there ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 But they can refuse, whatever we can realistically offer now they will still be able to get if not more next summer. His price is only going to go up especially when barca lose there ban. so how much better a deal can they get if they wait? lets say for arguments sake we offer £70m which is €102m, you really think Barca are going to break the bank to get Pogba? A guy who only the presidential elect wanted in the first place? What if Pogba gets injured or regresses does that offer stay at 70m in the summer? There are a number of reasons why they can be persuaded to sell now not the least of which is the fact that 70m is a fuck ton of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I'm really gonna enjoy the meltdown on the site if we do sign him! gonna be classic... Its going to be a big wet mess one way or another! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadenza666 221 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Is he another one of those wanna be former Chelsea employee who likes to troll on Twitter lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 But they can refuse, whatever we can realistically offer now they will still be able to get if not more next summer. His price is only going to go up especially when barca lose there ban. It seems that Pogba isn't Barcelona target number one, they want Verratti badly, and if they fail to get him then Pogba is going to be in their minds, so this is the perfect time to try and get Pogba.EDIT:According to the French channel BFMTV, Juventus are very close to sign Lemina. They offered around €12m + bonus. Lemina has given his ok to Juventus & the transfer could be completed in the coming hours. [bFMTV] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I wish we could sign Ross Barkley instead of Pogba. Pogba has the skills but not the right personality or mentality for Premiere League. Pogba is the perfect La Liga player imho and the fee is ridiculously high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illmatic 901 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 As I said in many times, i'm not agree to sign this guy for the insane amount who Juventus ask, and the player in general produces me a lot doubts. But one thing makes me happy... see that we are thinking in big again and fighting with another teams for the big signings. I was very frustrated and angry to hear all the fucking time "We need sell to buy" as a fucking small team, and meanwhile, our rivals, in england and in Europe, was spending without control and trying to make big signings, and even worst, see teams like Newcastle make a big net inversion yet when they don't had not even the half our economic profits. Maybe that big inversion will be for a player who not even worth the half of the money who ask for him, but at least, is good to see that we finally wake up and will fight with another teams for big signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhMalouda 10 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Would love Pogba. Can't see him going anywhere this transfer window though. Juve just lost Vidal, Pirlo, Tevez and their opening match. Pogba is key for them, they will do their best to hold on to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Oscar is 23 years old. Maybe a loan to Juventus for a year can be good for him, as part of the deal to sign Pogba. Juventus would have a good player to replace Pogba and we would get that Oscar follow his evolution into a TOP team, but without ceasing to be under our control. A good agreement for all sides.If we signed him Pogba I think Oscar would remain in a very difficult situation. With Matic - Pogba as indisputable in midfield and Fabregas as the most important creative player. Willian is also necessary because he can play as false right-winger and as N.10, which it is important throughout a season. In other words, Oscar would have very difficult to play with continuity.It's a complicated situation, because Fabregas is a little mystery now. If he regains his best level Fabregas is the best option, but if he can not recover his best and Oscar is sold / loaned ... we would have problems because of not having creative players in midfield. A very complex situation.But if Ramires also is going to Juventus (football fiction, an assumption, by the way) we can not hold the entire season with Matic - Pogba - Fabregas - Willian - RLC. That would be dangerous for us if we had injuries throughout the season.Ruben Loftus-Cheek could also go on loan to Juventus. But this option is quite unlikely because Juventus is a TOP team and RLC is a very young player. But Juventus signed Pogba from Manchester United in 2012 when he was practically a kid (19 years, like RLC now). Maybe they might consider this type of operation again.I do not know, but maybe it can be a good option to give on loan Oscar to Juventus for a year. I say that because if we sell right now Oscar to Juventus They would not pay us a lot of money. It would be a ruinous business. But if we give on loan Oscar to Juventus for one season we would have the option to get him back next season if he has a good performance with Juventus (one top team where he could evolve considerably) or sell him for about 20/30 million pounds if their performance does not convince us (and if Juventus want to sign him, of course).Oscar has improved its performance this season / preseason, with another improved attitude. Perhaps it is not the best time to sell him. And I do not want to lose him in our radar.It's a complicated situation, because if we sell Oscar ... we would only have Fabregas as creative player for the whole season (even if we we sign Pogba).By the way, I'm just describing another option which could be interesting. It is an opinion and not information from any report.Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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