Gary Cahill

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  On 08/11/2014 at 18:52, Nike said:

Last year people said Cahill was the best CB in the EPL.

I said it was the system.

I wonder what people think now of cahill.

I still think he is up there. Thought he was quality once again today. It is something that most fans seem to do in terms of being harsh on our players. Other fans and pundits see different. For instance earlier in the match, the commentator said something down the lines of "Cahill has really turned into an excellent all round CB". But basically giving him huge compliments.

Despite his flaws he is one of my favourite players. Think he is a quality CB. Reminds me of Koscielny. Both rash, like to play a bit on the ball but both are quality defenders.

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  On 08/11/2014 at 19:00, Stats said:

I still think he is up there. Thought he was quality once again today. It is something that most fans seem to do in terms of being harsh on our players. Other fans and pundits see different. For instance earlier in the match, the commentator said something down the lines of "Cahill has really turned into an excellent all round CB". But basically giving him huge compliments.

Despite his flaws he is one of my favourite players. Think he is a quality CB. Reminds me of Koscielny. Both rash, like to play a bit on the ball but both are quality defenders.

Koscielny is one level up from Cahill I think. A lot more comfortable on the ball and a lot more proactive too. Faster as well.

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  On 08/11/2014 at 19:04, The Skipper said:

Koscielny is one level up from Cahill I think. A lot more comfortable on the ball and a lot more proactive too. Faster as well.

I rate them about the same. Cahill times his tackles to perfection most times while Koscielny is a bit more rash and concedes penalties much more often.

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  On 08/11/2014 at 19:04, The Skipper said:

Koscielny is one level up from Cahill I think. A lot more comfortable on the ball and a lot more proactive too. Faster as well.

I agree.

He gets vilified quite a bit, but Koscielny is probably the best 1v1 defender in the BPL and the most agressive (now that Luiz is not here)

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  On 08/11/2014 at 19:08, Nike said:

I agree.

He gets vilified quite a bit, but Koscielny is probably the best 1v1 defender in the BPL and the most agressive (now that Luiz is not here)

Azpi is a better 1 v 1 defender.

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  On 18/10/2014 at 17:06, Myself said:

You don't have to be a world class player to be an amazing captain.. look at Roy Keane.

Roy Keane wasn't world class? I'm sorry this is the guy who was assigned to man mark Zinedine Zidane... fucking Zizou of all people... and did very, very well, nulifiying him which was a big big factor as to how United beat Juventus and got to the Champions League final. Roy Keane was definitely a world class footballer in those days.

Anyway about time Gary scored a goal....

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jekkyl and hyde performance.

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He was wank. Nearly cost us again.

  On 19/10/2014 at 04:36, The Skipper said:

Keane wasn't world class perhaps,

Wat

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What in the world was the thought process going through his head when he dived to 'save' that Gerrard shot? It wasn't dangerous what so ever. It had no pace and was always going wide. Now the media are acting like Liverpool got robbed when they had zero chances in the second half.

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  On 09/11/2014 at 09:37, CHOULO19 said:

zero chances in the second half.

Sterling's effort. That could have gone anywhere with a lucky ricochet which is why I don't like defenders backing off.

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  On 09/11/2014 at 13:50, The Chels said:

Sterling's effort. That could have gone anywhere with a lucky ricochet which is why I don't like defenders backing off.

Yeah, I remembered that after I made the comment. But even that came completely against the run of play. We were completely on top at that moment and wasting chances and they got that chance on the counter when Iva was out of position.

Still, with all the possession they had, it is shocking how little chances they manged to create.

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  On 09/11/2014 at 13:57, CHOULO19 said:

Yeah, I remembered that after I made the comment. But even that came completely against the run of play. We were completely on top at that moment and wasting chances and they got that chance on the counter when Iva was out of position. Still, with all the possession they had, it is shocking how little chances they manged to create.

I'm sure Ivanovic was in position for that chance as he was the one backing off. But yeah they are nowhere near the team of last season.

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  On 09/11/2014 at 14:06, The Chels said:

I'm sure Ivanovic was in position for that chance as he was the one backing off. But yeah they are nowhere near the team of last season.

Taking tips from Cahill in training, no doubt!

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  On 09/11/2014 at 14:10, CHOULO19 said:

Taking tips from Cahill in training, no doubt!

They've both been doing it for years. Surprising that Jose's not addressed it.

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  On 09/11/2014 at 09:37, CHOULO19 said:

What in the world was the thought process going through his head when he dived to 'save' that Gerrard shot? It wasn't dangerous what so ever. It had no pace and was always going wide. Now the media are acting like Liverpool got robbed when they had zero chances in the second half.

simple thought process, be the main line of defence and always think of the worst case scenario. GC did exactly that though not very well. i think he had enough time to actually move rather than move just his upper body.

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  On 09/11/2014 at 14:18, didierforever said:

simple thought process, be the main line of defence and always think of the worst case scenario. GC did exactly that though not very well. i think he had enough time to actually move rather than move just his upper body.

You NEVER dive in with your hands, especially in the box. Plus, he shouldn't be trying to block that when it was so far away from him because he would at best deflect it which would throw the keeper off.

And why is he going for that with his upper body? Much easier to reach it with his feet.

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  On 09/11/2014 at 14:23, CHOULO19 said:

You NEVER dive in with your hands, especially in the box. Plus, he shouldn't be trying to block that when it was so far away from him because he would at best deflect it which would throw the keeper off.

And why is he going for that with his upper body? Much easier to reach it with his feet.

totally agree that he should be going with his feet (said so too). the execution was poor but not the intention (which is what u were questioning in the first post). a defender should always be looking to block a shot unless 100% sure that the GK will get it which GC could not have been sure of.

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  On 09/11/2014 at 19:00, didierforever said:

totally agree that he should be going with his feet (said so too). the execution was poor but not the intention (which is what u were questioning in the first post). a defender should always be looking to block a shot unless 100% sure that the GK will get it which GC could not have been sure of.

If the blocking is done as of closing down the player about to take the shot then absolutely. Now shots from outside the box when the defenders are far away, our CBs are usually far away as they always stay deep, then I completely disagree (that they should attempt to block) and the first goal was also a mistake to me. All that these blocking attempts accomplish is to deflect the shots and make it a lot harder for Courtois.

We have a World Class keeper and should trust him more. Shots from afar should not be blocked unless of course the GK is out of position.