Gary Cahill

[Kojo 4,676]

Very harsh to blame Cahill for any of those three goals . But what you do see is a goal and Cahill in the picture and a goal = Cahill's fault.

1. Benteke goal - Benteke is running at Cahill on the counter attack and Cahill is last man ,what he should not do is dive in and get beaten ,what he should do is what he did, show Benteke the outside (wide) Petr got done on his near post is the major factor here from the Benteke shot.

2. This goal is all down to Mikel he should be picking up Toure in the first instance he is caught ball watching and then his attempt to tackle Toure is weak to say the least .

3. Another counter attack against us with Adebayor running at us ,this is just a world class finish and Cahill has only left him a small space to score in and Adebayor has taken it. Defeneders especially when they are the last man with opposing players running at you should stay on their feet and show the attacker wide or make him take on difficult shots (as in the Adebayor goal) ,where he would score maybe two/three in ten times,where as if Cahill dives in and commits himself as last man ,Adebayor scores maybe 7 in ten with only Cech to beat.

There's not so much you can do for Adebayors goal, closing him down is giving him the risk of passing or knocking the ball past Cahill, and if Cahill takes that gamble in that position and gets it wrong, then it's going to be a definite goals it's going to be two or three on one.

Even though his decision making on Yaya Toure is just terrible, yes it comes down to Mikel. Mikel has a habbit of ball watching and not marking players coming into the box.

[didierforever 7,349]

Watever bro

nice answer but it still does not explain how cahill is a better defender than alex.

[TrippingStep 336]

Very harsh to blame Cahill for any of those three goals . But what you do see is a goal and Cahill in the picture and a goal = Cahill's fault.

1. Benteke goal - Benteke is running at Cahill on the counter attack and Cahill is last man ,what he should not do is dive in and get beaten ,what he should do is what he did, show Benteke the outside (wide) Petr got done on his near post is the major factor here from the Benteke shot.

2. This goal is all down to Mikel he should be picking up Toure in the first instance he is caught ball watching and then his attempt to tackle Toure is weak to say the least .

3. Another counter attack against us with Adebayor running at us ,this is just a world class finish and Cahill has only left him a small space to score in and Adebayor has taken it. Defeneders especially when they are the last man with opposing players running at you should stay on their feet and show the attacker wide or make him take on difficult shots (as in the Adebayor goal) ,where he would score maybe two/three in ten times,where as if Cahill dives in and commits himself as last man ,Adebayor scores maybe 7 in ten with only Cech to beat.

On Benteke, he has his body angle wrong. It's ok to show the wide area but it's better tu push the opponent.

The difference between a good and an average defender is that the good one impose his will and push the forward where he wants him to be.

Cahill show maybe an area but doesn't push him there and is too flat footed. Against Benteke, it's ridiculous how he was left for dead by a simple crochet.

And on Marcelo, he is on the backfoot. He is on the backfoot for no reason. Ok you can give you some space to not be beaten by the first touch but here it was way too much and he didn't reduce the space between him and the player by moving towards him and no need to dive to do that.

Just making small steps, being quite light on the feet to change direction if needed.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

nice answer but it still does not explain how cahill is a better defender than alex.

You'd you rather have in your team right now..Cahill or Alex? Trust me, Alex is a bad choice.

Maybe Cahill needs to work his problem of backing off from charging strikers and should attack the ball more. He's pretty solid apart from that. For all i know, he's better than Terry at the moment, let alone Alex.

Agree to disagree

[didierforever 7,349]

You'd you rather have in your team right now..Cahill or Alex? Trust me, Alex is a bad choice.

Maybe Cahill needs to work his problem of backing off from charging strikers and should attack the ball more. He's pretty solid apart from that. For all i know, he's better than Terry at the moment, let alone Alex.

Agree to disagree

did u see alex against barca? he was really good and still a beast. i would definitely have alex over cahill even today. and how do i trust you when u r just putting in a statement with no reasoning.

as i said before cahill is a good defender, nothing more. if u give me a choice between cahill and iva, i ll take the latter in a heartbeat.

[TrippingStep 336]

Alex was a joke at PSG.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

did u see alex against barca? he was really good and still a beast. i would definitely have alex over cahill even today. and how do i trust you when u r just putting in a statement with no reasoning.

as i said before cahill is a good defender, nothing more. if u give me a choice between cahill and iva, i ll take the latter in a heartbeat.

Suit yourself

I'm a great fan of Iva....but for argument's sake,he cost us the Capital One cup for us last season...

p.s pls don't blame it on Hazard and yes, Bran's goal won us the Europa league.

Edited August 10, 2013 by Sidzeret

[lucio 5,418]

Very harsh to blame Cahill for any of those three goals . But what you do see is a goal and Cahill in the picture and a goal = Cahill's fault.

1. Benteke goal - Benteke is running at Cahill on the counter attack and Cahill is last man ,what he should not do is dive in and get beaten ,what he should do is what he did, show Benteke the outside (wide) Petr got done on his near post is the major factor here from the Benteke shot.

2. This goal is all down to Mikel he should be picking up Toure in the first instance he is caught ball watching and then his attempt to tackle Toure is weak to say the least .

3. Another counter attack against us with Adebayor running at us ,this is just a world class finish and Cahill has only left him a small space to score in and Adebayor has taken it. Defeneders especially when they are the last man with opposing players running at you should stay on their feet and show the attacker wide or make him take on difficult shots (as in the Adebayor goal) ,where he would score maybe two/three in ten times,where as if Cahill dives in and commits himself as last man ,Adebayor scores maybe 7 in ten with only Cech to beat.

No. Gary Neville said in commentary that it was Cahill s fault. And he knows more about defending than all of us put together.

Cahill is awful and will never be good enough for chelsea.

[didierforever 7,349]

Suit yourself

I'm a great fan of Iva....but for argument's sake,he cost us the Capital One cup for us last season...

p.s pls don't blame it on Hazard and yes, Bran's goal won us the Europa league.

every defender makes a mistake that would have cost us a match/a trohpy/a league or something or the other. a defender's ability should not be judged by one single mistake but by his over-all play. iva's mistake was a one-off which every player has once in his career where as cahill's problem is more on his own shortcomings and his technical ability. and that is what we are discussing here.

iva had one horrible match against swansea but i have never seen him getting bullied and owned the way shane long owned cahill in our away match to wba last season (the 2-1 defeat). and that is not the only match cahill has had problems which was something u generally dont associate with a quality centre-back.

Edited August 10, 2013 by didierforever

[Sidzeret 2,257]

every defender makes a mistake that would have cost us a match/a trohpy/a league or something or the other. a defender's ability should not be judged by one single mistake but by his all round play. and that is what we are discussing here.

iva had one horrible match against swansea but i have never seen him getting bullied and owned the way shane long owned cahill in our away match to wba last season (the 2-1 defeat). and that is not the only match cahill has had problems which was something u generally dont associate with a quality centre-back.

But then again i consider Ivan to be a better CB than Cahill. i was just defending my argument. You we're the one that brought the Ivan-Cahill comparison, remember?

My overall point was that Cahill was an upgrade on Alex at that transfer window. Period.

[didierforever 7,349]

But then again i consider Ivan to be a better CB than Cahill. i was just defending my argument. You we're the one that brought the Ivan-Cahill comparison, remember?

My overall point was that Cahill was an upgrade on Alex at that transfer window. Period.

i brought up an iva-cahill comparison to tell that cahill even with JT in the twilight of his career, luiz who is yet to reach his peak, and iva who is a versatile player, even with such options cahill is still our 4th best cb in this squad. i dint resort to comparing the mistakes of iva and cahill but just stated that even iva is a better cb than cahill.

again this is merely a statement. u have yet to give any substantial argument as to WHY u think cahill is better than alex.

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

Wait so the Benteke goal wasn't Cahill's fault? Can I have some of whatever your smoking mate?