Gary Cahill

[lucio 5,418]

Yes he did, like thousands of other players have done. It was evidently frustration and he deserves whatever punishment he gets, but does he deserve borderline abuse from his own fans? If you want him to lose any kind of confidence and support to get over this slump, then be my guest, send him death threats if you want. But if you want him to get back in shape for the sake of the team, then this is not the way to go. Like it or not but we're most likely stuck with him at least until the end of the season and spouting all these obsceneties at our player won't contribute anything meaningful to the forum or anywhere else.

Whatever happened to the "strict" rule about abusing our ex- and present players? Does it go out the window when we lose and everybody is angry? Look at the Lampard thread, it was opened with the warning that if things get out of hand, it will get locked again, but it hasn't stopped people from going all "fat judas cunt" all over again. The intellect has dropped radically here over the past few years.

, Jason, Jim, Steve

alex was calling for cahill to be executed , why are you tagging him.

get off your high horse lord manpe.

[manpe 10,861]

alex was calling for cahill to be executed , why are you tagging him.

get off your high horse lord manpe.

I was tagging them to get their attention. If Alex went against his own rules, then good on him, nothing I can do about it, but I didn't tag only him so hopefully there are still sober minds left in the staff.

[Oscar 441]

When people said cahill was one of the best cbs in the league prior to the beginning of the season, I knew how bias and/or retarded people were on this forum...

Cahill is a typical 3rd/4th cb for a title squad, nothing really wrong with that since all clubs need more than 2 decent cbs...

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Yes he did, like thousands of other players have done. It was evidently frustration and he deserves whatever punishment he gets, but does he deserve borderline abuse from his own fans? If you want him to lose any kind of confidence and support to get over this slump, then be my guest, send him death threats if you want. But if you want him to get back in shape for the sake of the team, then this is not the way to go. Like it or not but we're most likely stuck with him at least until the end of the season and spouting all these obsceneties at our player won't contribute anything meaningful to the forum or anywhere else.

Whatever happened to the "strict" rule about abusing our ex- and present players? Does it go out the window when we lose and everybody is angry? Look at the Lampard thread, it was opened with the warning that if things get out of hand, it will get locked again, but it hasn't stopped people from going all "fat judas cunt" all over again. The intellect has dropped radically here over the past few years.

, Jason, Jim, Steve

There is no "strict" rule. It's simply something we use to ensure things are moderated suitably when things get out of hand.

There's a difference between making a comment in jest and some of the comments being made in the Lampard thread, which explains why it was locked.

I have to agree, there has been an incredible drop in intellect on TalkChelsea, but that includes the regular clientèle as much as the staff.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

People are criticising Matic, but Cahill and Terry should be able to deal with Nacer Chadli and Harry Kane without help from the midfield. They weren't marking Lewandowski and Goetze.

[manpe 10,861]

I have to agree, there has been an incredible drop in intellect on TalkChelsea, but that includes the regular clientèle as much as the staff.

In case you misunderstood, the tags weren't meant to imply that the staff's intellect had declined, it was only to bring to your attention the issue I was talking about. But okay, let's all bash the sheffield turd... this nickname is already growing on me. Why doesn't Mikel have a cool nickname like that? Surely he deserves. How about "Jos Shit"?

[BlueLion. 21,491]

To honest Cahill is our best option in my eyes. Terry, Ivanovic, Azi and Cahill is the best 4 this squad can offer. The best answer for this problem was the last transfer window, but right now I trust more in Cahill than in Zouma.

The same thing happen in midfield. After every average performance from Oscar and William, I never ask for Schurlle or Salah, because I know both won't make the team any better.

I would love for us to address the issue this month - however - if we go and buy Varane (the only CB we're "linked" with), he's obviously UCL cup-tied.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

In case you misunderstood, the tags weren't meant to imply that the staff's intellect had declined, it was only to bring to your attention the issue I was talking about. But okay, let's all bash the sheffield turd... this nickname is already growing on me. Why doesn't Mikel have a cool nickname like that? Surely he deserves. How about "Jos Shit"?

Ah, my bad, I thought you were criticising the staff

We have to deal with a lot of petulance sadly. There's no rule about criticising players, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, provided they aren't overly zealous.

As far as I'm concerned, after the squad's performance yesterday, everyone except Diego and Hazard (and Thibaut who can't really have done much more) deserves everything they get.

[Tomo 21,751]

I would love for us to address the issue this month - however - if we go and buy Varane (the only CB we're "linked" with), he's obviously UCL cup-tied.

Cup tied is pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, imagine if we choose Guarin instead of Matic for that reason?

Furthermore in the CL we will probably play a deep block with Mikel and Matic holding, so Cahill will be allright with that type of protection.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Cup tied is pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, imagine if we choose Guarin instead of Matic for that reason?

Furthermore in the CL we will probably play a deep block with Mikel and Matic holding, so Cahill will be allright with that type of protection.

Very fair point, just the thought of Cahill picking up Cavani, Lavezzi and Zlatan....

[manpe 10,861]

There's no rule about criticising players, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, provided they aren't overly zealous.

Criticism, sure. What about abuse? Did it apply only to Lampard before there was consensus on his betrayal? Now that pretty much everybody is on the same page over his actions, the thread was opened again for brutal crucifiction (which in truth he deserves, but not to the extent of some of the extremeties we see). It is anyway a separate topic altogether, Cahill hasn't betrayed us, he's just going through a rough patch and people instantly turn their backs on him with some of the most shameful comments I've seen.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Criticism, sure. What about abuse? Did it apply only to Lampard before there was consensus on his betrayal? Now that pretty much everybody is on the same page over his actions, the thread was opened again for brutal crucifiction (which in truth he deserves, but not to the extent of some of the extremeties we see). It is anyway a separate topic altogether, Cahill hasn't betrayed us, he's just going through a rough patch and people instantly turn their backs on him with some of the most shameful comments I've seen.

If people want to abuse someone that is their choice, ultimately. But that's what incites arguments, which is one of the major reasons why threads like this are locked.

There is no black and white, there is a huge grey area where and it makes these forums horrible to moderate consistently.

But anyway, let's not derail this topic, PM me if you want to continue this conversation mate

[lionsden 4,689]

I have never seen such dramatic drop in form in recent times since Torres, he went from being one of the best defender in the league and Europe last season to one of the worst this season. The need for a new top class CB has become crucial than ever. Cahill, while I do rate him more than most on here, is simply not talented and good enough to be a starting CB for a big club with aspirations in the long run.

[DH1988 1,346]

Agreed, the need is dire now, absolutely dire we need one ASAP after a few shaky games I can't believe the club hasnt done it already. Buy hummels now. £45m.

Jk no one called for JT to be dropped after the Southampton game, no one called for JT to be dropped 2008-2011..

This is when big managers and big players step up, we have big managers, big players and I count gary in that.

As I said, not world class, but doesnt have to be when our team is back to basics of where we found success this season.

[Tautvix 1,321]

Too much hate for 1 player. We didn't concede 5 goals because Cahill was bad, we conceded because of our terrible organisation at the back. They had way too much space, even Matic and especially Fabregas didn't help the defenders how they had to.