robdog 2,084 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Cahill makes a lot of error's, the only reason they don't get noticed as much as Luiz's is because Gary's are more tactical, whereas Luiz's are more mistimed.Terry imo is still the best centre half out of the three by a country mile. He may not be as good as he was but my god we need him to keep those two on a leash.IMHO there are positives & negatives for all of our CBs. A positive for me is the fact that Cahill can score when going forward. Like you said, make good tactical decisions. And last but not least, IMHO has more pace than JT & Luiz. I won't go into DL or JT, but I wasn't keen on Cahill at first. I was really happy w/ Alex. Now I have totally forgotten about Alex & I love Cahill. Seriously, I have huge Man-Crush on the guy. You should have heard me last month in my pilgrimage to Stamford Bridge. I was like a lil' bitch yelling, "Nice play Gary". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Cahill makes a lot of error's, the only reason they don't get noticed as much as Luiz's is because Gary's are more tactical, whereas Luiz's are more mistimed.Terry imo is still the best centre half out of the three by a country mile. He may not be as good as he was but my god we need him to keep those two on a leash.terry can't handle the pace of di santo now. let alone rooney, tevez etc. tactically he is the best but his physical limitations are overwhelming nowcahill's tactical errors could also be a result of shortened gametime. he hasn't played much .. only 4 games in the league. i would go for cahill-terry rather than luiz-terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 We need new defenders. Cahill is an avarage player. I dont know how Luiz mistakes get more noticed.As Tomo said, Cahill make a lot of tatical erros. He usually marks the wrong players, leaving the open door for the opponent. Its also really common to see we conceding goals while Cahill is marking no one.Luiz is really good with the ball in his foot, we need a player that knows how to take the ball from the defence and put it on the attack without losing it. Luiz make a lot of mistakes, bu he barely miss the ball when he has it in his foot in the defensive field.We need his skills in this system we play. While I believe he is erratic, I also believe he is a better defender than Cahill. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Like i have said before we are a center back short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Cahill has suffered from the 'Bale syndrome'.When he signed he was completely under-rated, was wrote off before he even signed by a lot even as a squad player but he came in and had a few solid performances especially at the back end of last season and now hes gone too far the other way.In short he has gone from being the most under-rated player in our squad to the most over-rated. From "only a Bolton player, will never be good enough" to "captain material, next JT, bla bla bla". In truth he is right in the middle of both those description's, a good squad player. Peace. and pHaRaOn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Cahill has suffered from the 'Bale syndrome'.When he signed he was completely under-rated, was wrote off before he even signed by a lot even as a squad player but he came in and had a few solid performances especially at the back end of last season and now hes gone too far the other way.In short he has gone from being the most under-rated player in our squad to the most over-rated. From "only a Bolton player, will never be good enough" to "captain material, next JT, bla bla bla". In truth he is right in the middle of both those description's, a good squad player.You should have probably just typed "I told you so!" when wanting to post that earlier.Really, if people can excuse Luiz's poor performances in the last 2-3 matches because he has been doing fine before that and has got talents, then why those people aren't doing the same with Cahill too? Apart from his recent matches, he hasn't exactly been playing badly in any way and it's not like he doesn't have his own good qualities as well. Strike and Rmpr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I believe the Bale syndrome is being overrated as fuck because you had 2 good games against a shit Inter Milan side under Fat Rafa that nearly surrendered a 4-0 lead. Honestly Cahill is a good player and was a bit underrated when he first but surfaced a bit more. Now people notice him as one of our better CBs everyone will be extremely critical. Just how shit works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhanaBoy 104 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 never rated him, seems rushed in his play, , balls from the back are poor( notice how teams give him time on the ball.. they know he will not do anything with it but pass it 5 yards..). In essence a steriotypical english player who is over rated because he is english (ala kyle Walker). His overall game is poor and i have been saying it all along, he is not chelsea material ( problably liverpool material). He is a solid player ,and nothing extra. ask yourself what does he bring to the table( dont say leadership, because thats a lie)PS= our team next year should be : dave ivanovic DLuiz a.cole; mikel KDB; mata oscar hazard; cavani/neymar. NOW thats a top quality team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 You should have probably just typed "I told you so!" when wanting to post that earlier.Really, if people can excuse Luiz's poor performances in the last 2-3 matches because he has been doing fine before that and has got talents, then why those people aren't doing the same with Cahill too? Apart from his recent matches, he hasn't exactly been playing badly in any way and it's not like he doesn't have his own good qualities as well.I have said he has his own qualities, that's the point. I was one of the one's defending his initial signing but im also one of the one's that hasn't jumped on the bandwagon off over hyping him.My opinion of the lad has remained the same from day one and will probably remain the same throughout his Chelsea career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I believe the Bale syndrome is being overrated as fuck because you had 2 good games against a shit Inter Milan side under Fat Rafa that nearly surrendered a 4-0 lead.That's what i meant, Bale before those Arsenal, Chelsea and Inter games was one of the most under-rated player's in the league, he never got the credit he deserved and now he get's so much credit and most of it is way over the top.Scholes is another example, for years he never got the credit he deserved, the whole nation realized it all off a sudden and overhyping Scholes turned into some national project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Cahill is fantastic 3rd choice center back.I know he has had a couple of bad games but still he is a very good center back to have on the bench.My worry is Luiz.I think he plays well with terry but his partnership with cahill is not quite their yet. CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Cahill is fantastic 3rd choice center back. That is a good point. Cahill, is perfect back-up who can always fill in and do exactly what he is told. The reason I am more critical of Luiz's mistakes is that he is our starting CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 That is a good point. Cahill, is perfect back-up who can always fill in and do exactly what he is told. The reason I am more critical of Luiz's mistakes is that he is our starting CB.Exactly,if Luiz wants to remain a starter he must improve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Solid game yesterday and an excellent and important goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannah 200 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Solid game yesterday and an excellent and important goal.That was his 5th goal of the season I think. And he doesn't start regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Hard to say what's better really - having a solid defence that is not making any mistakes or having defenders that score goals...Because that's where we are - our defenders are scoring big amount of goals but they are making silly mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 The most he has scored in 1 season was 7, back in the 09/10 season with Bolton. Only need 3 more to overtake that with about 3 quarters of the season left to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 That was his 5th goal of the season I think. And he doesn't start regularly.Yeah we should stick him up front instead of the two we now have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Should start ahead of Luiz any day of the week. Is good for about 10 goals a season as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 5 goals in 8 games, more prolific than our so called striker(s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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