lucio 5,418 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Better from Cahill. As said before, when he concentrates he's good.. Needs to do that more.it was much better set up for him. 2 holders and only really needed to make blocks and headers.no-one running at him The Chels, Madmax, The Skipper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 it was much better set up for him. 2 holders and only really needed to make blocks and headers.no-one running at himYeah but he held his composure to deal with it, that's what I mean. No mistakes, which is better than he's done thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 If he played like today against Newcastle, Cisse doesn't score. Hopefully he has shaken off his bad moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 This thread quite quiet, he must playing okay then didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Matic got his back, didn't have to do anything last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 He was coasting and played okay because he had two shields in front of him. Nothing new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 he was protected but he still defended the box well, decent game tbh.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Funny how the majority of people on here mock him as some shit defender yet on the SS commentary they were complimenting him about how good of a defender he has become here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Funny how the majority of people on here mock him as some shit defender yet on the SS commentary they were complimenting him about how good of a defender he has become here We actually watch him every game unlike the commentators. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Funny how the majority of people on here mock him as some shit defender yet on the SS commentary they were complimenting him about how good of a defender he has become here Commentators are absolutely clueless most of the time. lucio and Despiadado.Maleante 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyfreshh 164 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Cahill is a good player but we need to sign another world class defender, we've already seen the best of Cahill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 We actually watch him every game unlike the commentators.And so does Mourinho and that is why he keeps his placce in the team. Mourinho will criticize players if he needs to. He done it with Oscar. Cahill has remained a firm starter in the team and I am sure our manager who watches him every game would say Cahill is a very important player for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 And so does Mourinho and that is why he keeps his placce in the team. Mourinho will criticize players if he needs to. He done it with Oscar. Cahill has remained a firm starter in the team and I am sure our manager who watches him every game would say Cahill is a very important player for us.Is there something Cahill does that Terry is incapable of doing?How about the other way around: is there anything that Terry does that Cahill just can't do?Terry has been playing very well indeed, but he ain't getting any younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 And so does Mourinho and that is why he keeps his placce in the team. Mourinho will criticize players if he needs to. He done it with Oscar. Cahill has remained a firm starter in the team and I am sure our manager who watches him every game would say Cahill is a very important player for us.If we have someone like Varane, doubt Cahill would be starting games right now. We don't exactly have many options at CB now, do we? Liquidator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 If we have someone like Varane, doubt Cahill would be starting games right now. We don't exactly have many options at CB now, do we?Well if Cahill was playing as bad as people suggested he would have been dropped. Yes, Varane is better than Cahill. Same way Reus is a better no.10 than Oscar. We don't have Varane, we don't have Reus. If Mourinho thought Cahill was that bad he would have bought Mangalae in the summer. Funny how people solely give credit to Terry for all our defensive players. Yes, Terry has been the best CB in the league this season but you don't keep the amount of CS we have done without an excellent partnership between your two CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman 329 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 in JT i trust - Garry's motto for now. i don't wont yet a moment, where Cahill will play with Zouma/Kristensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Well if Cahill was playing as bad as people suggested he would have been dropped. Yes, Varane is better than Cahill. Same way Reus is a better no.10 than Oscar. We don't have Varane, we don't have Reus. If Mourinho thought Cahill was that bad he would have bought Mangalae in the summer. Funny how people solely give credit to Terry for all our defensive players. Yes, Terry has been the best CB in the league this season but you don't keep the amount of CS we have done without an excellent partnership between your two CB.Don't think people are saying cahill has been so bad. Don't know of anyone who wouldn't want Cahill In the squad to be honest. Chelsea in general does not have 'bad' players, though for me, Mikel comes real close...Oscar is 23 and I am sure Chelsea expect him to improve, because as much as I like the kid, he is NOT good enough just yet. Then you go into characteristics, and Oscar is actually better defensively than Reus right now, but I digress.Cahill is 29 and if we can improve on him, why not? Wanna go English? Don't see many great English defenders since JT, so that's going to be tough. I personally like Phil Jones, but also very raw product who makes mistakes, but he's fairly young. I'd rather go big on Ross right now - guy with that much ball control in pace is as much of a sure thing as it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Don't think people are saying cahill has been so bad. Don't know of anyone who wouldn't want Cahill In the squad to be honest. Chelsea in general does not have 'bad' players, though for me, Mikel comes real close...Oscar is 23 and I am sure Chelsea expect him to improve, because as much as I like the kid, he is NOT good enough just yet. Then you go into characteristics, and Oscar is actually better defensively than Reus right now, but I digress.Cahill is 29 and if we can improve on him, why not? Wanna go English? Don't see many great English defenders since JT, so that's going to be tough. I personally like Phil Jones, but also very raw product who makes mistakes, but he's fairly young. I'd rather go big on Ross right now - guy with that much ball control in pace is as much of a sure thing as it gets.Believe me. There are some people here who think Cahill is really bad and it totally baffles me because I think he is a quality all round defender. You just have to see the comments on this thread to see how much people do not rate him. Mikel is no Matic but do I think he is a valuable player for the squad? I do.Regarding Barkley, he is one of my favourite players in the PL. If i had to pick any English player in my team it would be him. Fantastic player and as he showed against QPR he can do a very good job in the CM position even though he is considered a no.10. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Believe me. There are some people here who think Cahill is really bad and it totally baffles me because I think he is a quality all round defender. You just have to see the comments on this thread to see how much people do not rate him. Mikel is no Matic but do I think he is a valuable player for the squad? I do.Regarding Barkley, he is one of my favourite players in the PL. If i had to pick any English player in my team it would be him. Fantastic player and as he showed against QPR he can do a very good job in the CM position even though he is considered a no.10.He's not shit, not by any stretch of the imagination (although he does have some face palming tenancies that have started to creep back in his game off late).What it boils down too is think back to 07/08 when we lost JT for a bit but we were fine cause Carvalho stepped up to lead the defence, can Cahill do the same?The major concern about Cahill is can he step up and lead if need be? Could he lead Zouma through a CL final if Terry is unavailable? With Terry he is fine,,without him (further enhanced by his world cup displays) leave a lot to be desired and until he proves otherwise, that will always be a valid concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Don't think people are saying cahill has been so bad. Don't know of anyone who wouldn't want Cahill In the squad to be honest. Chelsea in general does not have 'bad' players, though for me, Mikel comes real close...Oscar is 23 and I am sure Chelsea expect him to improve, because as much as I like the kid, he is NOT good enough just yet. Then you go into characteristics, and Oscar is actually better defensively than Reus right now, but I digress.Cahill is 29 and if we can improve on him, why not? Wanna go English? Don't see many great English defenders since JT, so that's going to be tough. I personally like Phil Jones, but also very raw product who makes mistakes, but he's fairly young. I'd rather go big on Ross right now - guy with that much ball control in pace is as much of a sure thing as it gets.Look you posted about Oscar saying he is just not good enough yet but he is 23. Phil Jones is 22 or 23 and lets be honest, is nowhere near as good as Gary Cahill right now and thats a fact. Too many mistakes? Hes so injury prone he's not even worth considering either in my eyes, he had the chance to be an elite central defender eventually but Ferguson moved him around so many different positions- hes generally very average as a right back and central defender - and his injury record is embarrassing really, I would've had him a few years back yes but I think his opportunity of being the next big English CB has passed. Sure you can say Cahill went up to the top the long way but Jones started out billed as an absolutely huge English talent (like we've never heard of plenty of them before) then made a big move and really struggled for consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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