Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Well since we got David Luiz and Cahill from the other thread, I want Hazard and Goetze please. Neymar is the best out of all of them, but his attitude is a big problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Any thoughts on that? Far too cocky for me But a red card? Oh boy.If this lad comes to Europe, especially the Premier League, he wont be able to stay on his feet.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsRh4lY6UyMWhen did Neymar get his Mohawk cut off!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Well since we got David Luiz and Cahill from the other thread, I want Hazard and Goetze please. Neymar is the best out of all of them, but his attitude is a big problem.Yes, Neymar is better shitting over a shit league while Hazard and Goetze already proved themselves domestically and in Europe, he is defiantly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Yes, Neymar is better shitting over a shit league while Hazard and Goetze already proved themselves domestically and in Europe, he is defiantly better.Shit league???I have you noticed that one of the best players ever to grace the world, Pele, never played in Europe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago. 1,500 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Shit league???I have you noticed that one of the best players ever to grace the world, Pele, never played in Europe!Wow, now i know this discussion is over. Pele was the first star of football and took advantage of his fame, in this day in age, if he were playing and hit Europe, he would be nothing greater in ability than Freddy Adu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Wow, now i know this discussion is over. Pele was the first star of football and took advantage of his fame, in this day in age, if he were playing and hit Europe, he would be nothing greater in ability than Freddy Adu.Typical European superior complex!There have been great players as well that never had to play in Europe.Alberto Spencer, Jorge Campos, Alex Aguinaga, and much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'd take all three obviously but I would prefer Gotze, most German players are really hard working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Typical European superior complex!Europe is superior, it's not even debatable.Champions League > World Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The Champions league has eclipsed the World Cup, the quality of football is far better, it's prime time and the players are in form. Most of the games from the last World Cup reminded me of a community shield final ffs, fatigued players, boring football & Vuvuzela's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The Champions league has eclipsed the World Cup, the quality of football is far better, it's prime time and the players are in form. Most of the games from the last World Cup reminded me of a community shield final ffs, fatigued players, boring football & Vuvuzela's.And I totally agree.ButEurope is superior, it's not even debatable. You can't say such thing when it's a club competition comprise of African, Asian, South and North American players.The competition is good cause there are good players.But if players don't play in Europe does not mean they are shit, cause they play in shit league.Some players just choose to stay stateside, like Lando Donovoan, Jorge Campos, Alberto Spencer, currently Neymar and much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 World Cup is the better spectacle, CL is better quality football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 The World Cup is a the better spectacle, The Champions League is better quality football.Again I agree but your idiotic sentence before is not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Again I agree but your idiotic sentence before is not!Europe is Superior. Do you think Neymar will stay in Brazil for the rest of his career? Why do you think legends like Pele and Ronaldo are telling him to move to Europe? Europe is every footballers pinnacle. It's where the best quality football is played. There is no doubt about that. Leagues like the Brazillian league and MLS are not anywhere near good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Europe is Superior. Do you think Neymar will stay in Brazil for the rest of his career? Why do you think legends like Pele and Ronaldo are telling him to move to Europe? Europe is every footballers pinnacle. It's where the best quality football is played. There is no doubt about that. Leagues like the Brazillian league and MLS are not anywhere near good enough.And I repeat some players like Lando Donovan choose to stay stateside.So just because he does not play in europe does not means he is shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 And I repeat some players like Lando Donovan choose to stay stateside.So just because he does not play in europe does not means he is shit!He only returned to the USA because he struggled in Deutschland. He did well on his two spells at Everton but that was almost a decade after his failures in Germany. Donovan should just stay at Everton.Besides, Pélé played in Brazil a full 50 years ago, it is impossible to compare Europe now to Brazil then. Changes to rules, equipment, football philosophy, physiotherapy and tempo have Football a different sport to what it was 50 years ago. I believe Pélé would be a great Foward today but would pale in comparison to Baggio, Batistuta, Ronaldo, Drogba, Eto'o etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 And I repeat some players like Lando Donovan choose to stay stateside.So just because he does not play in europe does not means he is shit!No one is saying that. I just stated that the quality in Europe is far superior. That is not an inult to the MLS, just a compliment to the supreme football played in Europe.I believe Pélé would be a great Foward today but would pale in comparison to Baggio, Batistuta, Ronaldo, Drogba, Eto'o etc.It's sort of unfair to compare a legend from 50 years ago to the great players of Today. A player should be judged in 'His' era, not future ones. 50 years from now Messi and CR7 may be categorised as 'Average' players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 He only returned to the USA because he struggled in Deutschland. He did well on his two spells at Everton but that was almost a decade after his failures in Germany. Donovan should just stay at Everton.Besides, Pélé played in Brazil a full 50 years ago, it is impossible to compare Europe now to Brazil then. Changes to rules, equipment, football philosophy, physiotherapy and tempo have Football a different sport to what it was 50 years ago. I believe Pélé would be a great Foward today but would pale in comparison to Baggio, Batistuta, Ronaldo, Drogba, Eto'o etc.No point in talking any more if your reasoning is like that.Plus like I said, Pele was one of the many players that did not played or hardly played in europe but where great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 No one is saying that. I just stated that the quality in Europe is far superior. That is not an inult to the MLS, just a compliment to the supreme football played in Europe.It's sort of unfair to compare a legend from 50 years ago to the great players of Today. A player should be judged in 'His' era, not future ones. 50 years from now Messi and CR7 may be categorised as 'Average' players.Yeah, but my whole argument was because this guy said he played in Brazil he is shit, cause it's a shit league!And that is just such a European superiority complex!He does not has to play in Europe to be good.It's like in USA we got the best baseball league, hockey, football and basketball.But if some player don't play in US, so what?He might want to play for his home country league and still be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Justin is the worst debator I've ever had the displeasure of debating. He just dismisses other people's opions because he disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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