Jase 43,479 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Just now, killer1257 said: Just to showcase how wrong these experts were again. But I will stop for now and wait til the end of the Season and then remind the experts what they initially wanted Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk You're making it out as if people committed a crime asking Lampard to hire a defensive coach. Nothing bad or wrong with debating about asking for help when there's an issue, especially when the defensive issue we're talking about goes back to Lampard's time at Derby as well. It wasn't as if people were asking for a change in manager! Supermonkey92 and communicate 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, killer1257 said: It is not like we were Rock solid last year either. It just needs some time to implement the training concepts into the pitch. Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Statistically we had the 3rd or 4th best defence last season. We werent rock solid but we werent as bad as we were the first wee while under Frank either and thats the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Statistically we had the 3rd or 4th best defence last season. We werent rock solid but we werent as bad as we were the first wee while under Frank either and thats the truth. We were quite solid numbers wise due to the cautious possession after those 15 minutes against Arsenal up till about February. After that we were quite open as we started playing a bit more expressively. I think Lampard is going about dealing with those issues head on instead of finding sticky plaster routes and it looks like we're reaping rewards already. Atomiswave, killer1257 and OneMoSalah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I was one of those who rightly pointed out we were atrocious defensively up until recently. The recent form is very encouraging and it's given me more confidence in frank as a manager. I don't think he's a feel good stop gap that gives a golden generation of young players a year or so to establish themselves in the team, I think we can legitimately improve and win stuff under him. Still, let's not let 4 games mean we are out of the woods. We are still progressing. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I just hope that the board can see and realise just how positive and united the club as a whole is at present and back Lampard and the young players to develop and take the club forwards in time. If this takes a couple of seasons to really get to where we want it to be (which has to be back challenging for the league, and eventually Europe again) then so be it. I really do think there is something special brewing at the club and if we can get top 4 this season and hit a home run in the summer transfer window we could be a real force. I actually feel if we can get out of the group this season in the Champions League and keep this momentum going we'll be a team no one will really want to be drawn against because we'll go in as a fearless underdog against most of the other teams that qualify through. The continued evolution of this team, the young players and Lampard himself is exciting to watch and will surely only get better over time. Even the older heads in the side are stepping up to support this season. The likes of Alonso, Azpi, Willian, etc may not be the long term answer but they are vital this season for guiding these young players and ultimately performing to a high enough standard to get us results. Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I very much love how he's embracing different challenges and styles of play with opponent's and focusing on conquering instead of moaning about it. How many managers who play the attacking/possession based football Lampard does whine to high heaven when they play against low blocks. Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Does Lampard use Mourinho's management techniques? | Frank Lampard | Being The Boss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Mana said: I still don't know if this season is still a write off or we can actually get top 4. I know United are off the table for the challenge but can we do it again against Arsenal and Spuds? Maybe now even Leicester? I've been convinced we're finishing top four since the Liverpool game. Things can change but as it stands we're looking very good for 3rd. Atomiswave and NikkiCFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Mana said: I still don't know if this season is still a write off or we can actually get top 4. I know United are off the table for the challenge but can we do it again against Arsenal and Spuds? Maybe now even Leicester? What? I don't have any doubts any more about finishing top4. I still have some hope for the title. Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Mana said: I still don't know if this season is still a write off or we can actually get top 4. I know United are off the table for the challenge but can we do it again against Arsenal and Spuds? Maybe now even Leicester? I would be disappointed if we dont get top4 now to be honest. We are only getting better, the team is gelling and its clear they are all hungry again. Lamps himself is improving and we can see that game by game imo. Bypass nasty injuries, back him in the summer and we are rolling. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 If we can carry on like this. All it takes is a blip or injuries. To early to call it but looks brighter then did after the 4-0 loss. We haven't played quite like that since! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: If we can carry on like this. All it takes is a blip or injuries. To early to call it but looks brighter then did after the 4-0 loss. We haven't played quite like that since! We look better, more cohesive and our fitness is great already. We already been fucked with injuries and still havent had a full power squad to choose from. Still very young, still getting the hang of it but looks good imo. Far more exciting, much more intent and hungrier than last season. Good luck to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/25/chelsea-ajax-frank-lampard Frank Lampard says he is driving home to Chelsea’s squad the dangers of relaxing after they recorded a sixth straight win at Ajax. His team face a tough game at Burnley and he is drawing on lessons learned before he became a manager. “I remember being a player and having good runs of form, slightly relaxing in training in moments and the form turned and I had to reassess myself,” he said. “I always felt that as a player so I became, as I got older, more fearful of good patches, fearful of any form of relaxation, so I push that and the staff do too. I certainly am the one who drives that home because that was me.” The 41-year-old emphasised that, rather than shouting, directness and consistency of message are the keys to ensuring his players listen. “I’ve had a couple of words occasionally but I’m not a manager that is full of rollockings as such. I like to have a message that is pretty clear over a period of time that I try and drive home, and certainly if I ever felt there was a lack of effort in training or in a game then that would be the moment that I would go towards [rollockings].” Lampard acknowledged that managing modern players requires tact. “I would not say that I played under any managers that gave it out … [Harry Redknapp] would have been the one who was the most vocal at times, throwing a sandwich or stuff. [The] old school thing,” he said, laughing. “If it’s a firm bollocking and you talk about being on edge then I think that is good in a positive way. But do it consistently – who wants that every day?” Vesper and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 16 hours ago, Mana said: I'll be slightly disappointed too but, top 4 is a serious challenge. When Spuds eventually wake up from their slumber, they'll be rocking (or maybe they will not therefore, yay?) Then we have Leicester. They just sent an earthquake tonight beating Southampton 9-0, and they don't look like falling off. Rodgers and Leicester are no muppets in the PL. As for Arsenal, well. They certainly have the squad to reach top 4, but Emery's tactics and questionable decisions such as leaving out creative players like Ozil, could ruin their chances for top 4. So until that changes Arsenal are nothing to worry about. EDIT: Holy shite. City, Leicester and Liverpool are the only teams with double figures of positive GD. I wouldnt be shocked at all if spurs dont turn it around, they seem way out of balance. Arsenal def have the squad for top 4 but as you said Emery is not up to the task, and utd is fucked all over the pitch. If we keep going like this and gel even more then top4 ought to be ours imo..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Random Note: Phillip Cocu's Derby are sitting in 16th after 14 games in the Championship. kellzfresh and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 25 minutes ago, Jason said: Random Note: Phillip Cocu's Derby are sitting in 16th after 14 games in the Championship. No surprise. They lost all the best players in Mount, Tomori, Wilson... communicate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 A Win Is A Win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: No surprise. They lost all the best players in Mount, Tomori, Wilson... But there were people who tried to downplay what Lampard achieved with Derby last season. Milan and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Jason said: But there were people who tried to downplay what Lampard achieved with Derby last season. 'He got them from 6th to 6th.' has to be one of the most simplistic arguments used here Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 The way we are playing reminds me of the style that AVB wanted to implement back then.... petre.ispirescu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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