bushman 2,043 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I am happy for Frank to see him playing in the WC. He deserves his last hooray.Then, he ought to retire.Come next season, he won´t get to play much for Chelsea. I would rather see him going out with dignity & not seeing him being benched like Cole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 He could still be useful as an impact sub if the team needs a goal in the last 20 minutes or so, but I wouldn't really want to see him be a starter anymore. However, we could just as well be using one of the youngsters for the occasional super sub role so if we ever want to start giving youth a chance now would be the perfect opportunity to do so.Matic + new CM signing will most likely be the preferred pairing in midfield with MvG and Ramires (or another new signing if Rambo is sold) as options on the bench. Fifth choice CM will still get a decent amount of minutes throughout the season, especially if there are injuries to the others, but do we want that to be Lampard or someone like Chalobah, Baker, Ake or RLC? I would be more inclined to choose the latter option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I really want us to give Chalobah a chance this season. I believe Mourinho said he will last August when discussing loan moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Styles 9,790 Posted May 16, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 16, 2014 Drogba was far more useful in 2012 than Lampard is in 2014, and many people here were saying the best thing was to move on, and end his Chelsea career to pave the way for a new era.While would be crazy not giving Terry an extension, its time to believe in young english talents.Ashley Cole would be more useful as a back-up LB next year than Lampard would be doing a similar role in midfield, and yet many are happy to let him leave and sign Lampard for another year. The mind boggles. Ainsley Harriott, LDN Blue, Madmax and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 It's sad for me to see Cole out of the WC, benched by Jose.. I too feel, Cole would be a better idea to sign for the club than Frank. Somehow, I doubt Cole wants to be part of Chelsea for the next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Must to end his chelsea career with a Trophy. CFC_4EVER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Ashley Cole would be more useful as a back-up LB next year than Lampard would be doing a similar role in midfield, and yet many are happy to let him leave and sign Lampard for another year. The mind boggles.There is also talk of Lamps being involved in a coaching capacity, and the guy is a genuine Chelsea legend so there is an emotional reason why people want to keep him around. Sidzeret, BlueLion., kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 If he really has been offered a contract and he's delaying his decision, he should really just move on and give the youth a chance because it's clear then that he's already thinking of the MLS. You have to remember, that as little as we've seen him this year (especially after the arrival of Matic) we probably would've seen him even less had MvG not had that bad injury. I think MvG was purchased with Lampard's eventual departure in mind anyway.He and Didier should come back in a few years for his coaching badges. Until then, he should enjoy his last few years in the sun and not on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 There is also talk of Lamps being involved in a coaching capacity, and the guy is a genuine Chelsea legend so there is an emotional reason why people want to keep him around.Exactly. Ashley Cole is a legend. Frank Lampard is our greatest-ever player. There's an absolute emotional gulf between the two. The only place to be and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Styles 9,790 Posted May 18, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 18, 2014 So give him a full-time coaching role then. Everybody's happy.Lampard is 36 in a month, we have a fundamental problem in our midfield that needs to be resolved once and for all and giving him a 5m+ contract out of sentiment just doesn't make much sense.If we improve in the way that we need to this summer then any minutes Lampard would get would be better served being given to one of our many young prospects.I get it, Lampard is an absolute legend and deserves respect but that's just how I see it. Peace., TacticalBlues, Madmax and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Exactly. Ashley Cole is a legend. Frank Lampard is our greatest-ever player. There's an absolute emotional gulf between the two.There is a time where one must look past sentiment though, and Frank's time has come. Definitely our greatest ever player but if it came between signing Ash and Frank I'd go for the former because he'd still be a pretty useful player in the squad - not sure we can say the same about Frank sadly. Styles and LAB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 So give him a full-time coaching role then. Everybody's happy.Lampard is 36 in a month, we have a fundamental problem in our midfield that needs to be resolved once and for all and giving him a 5m+ contract out of sentiment just doesn't make much sense.If we improve in the way that we need to this summer then any minutes Lampard would get would be better served being given to one of our many young prospects.I get it, Lampard is an absolute legend and deserves respect but that's just how I see it.Lamps is also a fantastic ambassador for this club and a great example for every player in the squad. He can still play a role in certain games but it's also important to bear in mind that if he were to leave then our senior midfielder would be Ramires at 27. A player-coach role on reduced wages is probably my preferred option for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 We shouldn't be having a problem with our greatest ever player wanting to leave on a high note. Lamps deserves another PL medal before he leaves. Maybe the only reason I still want him here for another year but I reckon that is not too much of an ask. Its not FFP suicide to pay his wages for one more year. Sign him up. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Partridge 1,124 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I was hoping Lampard, Terry, Cole could stay for one last season. If we won the league next season then it would be a great way for them to leave. MLS would take them all after that, I know Lamps has mentioned about playing in the States. Sidzeret 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Lamps is also a fantastic ambassador for this club and a great example for every player in the squad. He can still play a role in certain games but it's also important to bear in mind that if he were to leave then our senior midfielder would be Ramires at 27. A player-coach role on reduced wages is probably my preferred option for him.He can continue to be an ambassador and example without actually having to play.27 is almost the ideal age, that's when a player is at his athletic peak and has more than enough experience. In Ramires' case he has 338 career games so experience at that age is not even in question. Having said that Ramires' lack of technical ability makes that all virtually pointless.It all comes down to improving for me and giving a 36 year old player a new contract isn't a step in the right direction. Peace., Madmax and Henrique 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 He can continue to be an ambassador and example without actually having to play.27 is almost the ideal age, that's when a player is at his athletic peak and has more than enough experience. In Ramires' case he has 338 career games so experience at that age is not even in question. Having said that Ramires' lack of technical ability makes that all virtually pointless.It all comes down to improving for me and giving a 36 year old players a new contract isn't a step in the right direction.Ramires simply isn't the guy I'd want as the senior voice amongst the midfielders. He still struggles to speak English for fuck's sake....mentally he's just not there. This isn't just any 36 year old either. Frank showed against Liverpool that he can still do a job for us, maybe not as consistently as he did a few years ago but every now and then he's still more than good enough for us. Reddish-Blue and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,505 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Ramires simply isn't the guy I'd want as the senior voice amongst the midfielders. He still struggles to speak English for fuck's sake....mentally he's just not there. This isn't just any 36 year old either. Frank showed against Liverpool that he can still do a job for us, maybe not as consistently as he did a few years ago but every now and then he's still more than good enough for us. Your previous suggestion about Lampard staying as a player-coach is a good option. He's still one of our leaders from midfield and with his level of experience, he could probably pass on useful advice to the likes of Van Ginkel, Chalobah (if he's part of the first team) throughout next season The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Ramires simply isn't the guy I'd want as the senior voice amongst the midfielders. He still struggles to speak English for fuck's sake....mentally he's just not there. This isn't just any 36 year old either. Frank showed against Liverpool that he can still do a job for us, maybe not as consistently as he did a few years ago but every now and then he's still more than good enough for us. Sticking strictly to the age point, if Ramires was a better player I'd have absolutely no problem with him being our most senior midfielder at 27. Our midfield problem will be solved by bringing in a quality, long-term partner for Matic and opening up a path for the many talented young players. I do think Lampard will get a new deal though, mainly because of the home-grown quota stuff that is a bit of an issue for us. Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Sticking strictly to the age point, if Ramires was a better player I'd have absolutely no problem with him being our most senior midfielder at 27. Our midfield problem will be solved by bringing in a quality, long-term partner for Matic and opening up a path for the many talented young players. I do think Lampard will get a new deal though, mainly because of the home-grown quota stuff that is a bit of an issue for us.What if those two things are one in the same? I don't know who this 'quality, long-term partner' is (maybe someone like Rakitic who would cost £25 million) but is it definitely not Van Ginkel? Is it definitely not Chalobah or RLC? I'd be content with taking a flyer on a low-risk option like Paulinho or Song, but then you look at what City got from Fernandinho.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 JT (ok, already signed up), Lamps and Cole all should stay. Apart from the undoubted experience they provide to the rest of the squad, they are still top quality players. Jose has already said he wants them to stay, so I guess it's all about agreeing on the wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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