Jase 43,479 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Three notable stats of ours in the league this season... SHOTS 1. Man City (351) 2. 🔵 CHELSEA (292) 3. Liverpool (274) 4. Leicester (258) 5. Man United (248) SHOTS ON TARGET 1. Man City (119) 2. Liverpool (108) 3. 🔵 CHELSEA (106) 4. Man United (94) 5. Leicester (92) CONVERSION RATE 1. Liverpool (21%) 2= Leicester (20%) 2= Man City (20%) 2= Spurs (20%) 5. Wolves (17%) . . . . 9= 🔵 CHELSEA (15%) Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Oh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Bloke not even given a chance of single transfer window yet. Poor fella. Too early to judge anything about his quality/skill. Give him a full season with two windows first, building the squad he wants. If he still couldn't achieve something at the end of that season, then you guys are free to judge him. Well, think he will be gone before we could say any word though, if that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDTips 34 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, Jason said: Three notable stats of ours in the league this season... 9= 🔵 CHELSEA (15%) True, we have offensive football, possession but lack of maturity in the decision. Pulisic, Tammy, Willian. The 3 are good when they are well. But we have no alternatives to any of them. CHO, Mount, Bats, Giroud, Pedro ... none of these have quality for Chelsea. It's a problem. It only values more what has been done. With these conditions we should be much worse than we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDTips 34 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 5 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Are we feeling confident that any of youngsters is going to be good enough next season to start for us? Tomori, James, CHO, Abraham, Mount? I trust James, Tammy and Tomori. I have no hope in Mount or CHO. With both market windows we have to do a smart job of bringing what we need and getting rid of what doesn't fit here. Pedro Giroud Bats ... We need to have better quality and a balance between youth and adults. Spend the money very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, BDTips said: I trust James, Tammy and Tomori. I have no hope in Mount or CHO. With both market windows we have to do a smart job of bringing what we need and getting rid of what doesn't fit here. Pedro Giroud Bats ... We need to have better quality and a balance between youth and adults. Spend the money very well. Gallagher shits on Mount, that guy is a real talent, hope we get him back in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Two months of poor form is all its taken to give up on an 18 and 20 year old. I wonder what Terry's thread would look like if this place existed in 1999. Stats, 1905didierblue, !Hazard! and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, Nicco said: Gallagher shits on Mount, that guy is a real talent, hope we get him back in January. The second Gallagher hits a rut he'd be thrown under a bus aswell. 1905didierblue, ulsterchelsea and Superblue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tomo said: Two months of poor form is all its taken to give up on an 18 and 20 year old. I wonder what Terry's thread would look like if this place existed in 1999. Or Twitter, Facebook, social media in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tomo said: Two months of poor form is all its taken to give up on an 18 and 20 year old. I wonder what Terry's thread would look like if this place existed in 1999. in regards to CHO it is all about the injury and the effect it is having on his mobility that is always going to be a legit area of questioning, regardless of age or previous form I personally have not been pounding on Mount repeatedly I do think Lampard overplays him as of late but I am sure we will rebound Atomiswave and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tomo said: The second Gallagher hits a rut he'd be thrown under a bus aswell. It is crazy. Gallagher has had a very good season, but it is amazing that a slump in form then the whole brigade is out. For it to be even suggested that Gallagher is better than Mount right now, is evidence of how fickle this forum is. Vesper and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stats said: It is crazy. Gallagher has had a very good season, but it is amazing that a slump in form then the whole brigade is out. For it to be even suggested that Gallagher is better than Mount right now, is evidence of how fickle this forum is. Gallagher is playing in the Championship let's seem him do it at big boy level before we start comparing him to Mount Stats and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stats said: It is crazy. Gallagher has had a very good season, but it is amazing that a slump in form then the whole brigade is out. For it to be even suggested that Gallagher is better than Mount right now, is evidence of how fickle this forum is. You have people - or rather, someone - suggesting Barkley is better than Mount! Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Vesper said: in regards to CHO it is all about the injury and the effect it is having on his mobility that is always going to be a legit area of questioning, regardless of age or previous form I personally have not been pounding on Mount repeatedly I do think Lampard overplays him as of late but I am sure we will rebound Oh don't get me wrong I am by no means saying they don't deserve to be critisized, but writing them off when they've already shown themselves to be quality players at this level is absurd. It's hardly a Patrick Bamford case where he looked out of his depth (at PL level) from day dot. Form is going to fluctuate with these lads at this age, Pulisic after a period of looking genuinely on Hazard's level is slowing down a bit again. At some point we will see the Mount of August and September again. ulsterchelsea, Stats and Vesper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Just now, Jason said: You have people - or rather, someone - suggesting Barkley is better than Mount! Barkley needs to sold whilst we can still get good money for him I do not see him becoming a better player out of the blue at least not here Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jason said: You have people - or rather, someone - suggesting Barkley is better than Mount! While Barkley has dropped of, it is not as absurd as suggesting Gallagher is better than Mount as he is a full England international but generally speaking, yes I agree with you. I guarantee it will take 2-3 games for CHO to pick up some form then there will be sudden calls for him to be starting regularly.... Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Tomo said: Oh don't get me wrong I am by no means saying they don't deserve to be critisized, but writing them off when they've already shown themselves to be quality players at this level is absurd. It's hardly a Patrick Bamford case where he looked out of his depth (at PL level) from day dot. Form is going to fluctuate with these lads at this age, Pulisic after a period of looking genuinely on Hazard's level is slowing down a bit again. At some point we will see the Mount of August and September again. I agree I am more concerned about tactics atm we are in a massive rut overall I also think there is a true 800-pound Gorilla in the room Kante what is his role here what position does he most benefit the team in and at what point is he so much of a square peg round hole IF we continue to try and play him higher (which is an utter waste of his talents and his best role IMHO) do we start to consider selling him, as he is not getting any younger Of course I will be burnt alive for even bringing the subject up at even the most slightest and initial levels I find it strange that we are often overrun in MF yet we have who once was the worlds best best DMF on our team sure Sarri got him to be more expansive, but there are 50 MFers who can go forward at the same level he does there were NO MF'ers in the world who could utterly disrupt a game like he could, he was a force of nature now he is hit and miss he was atrocious against Bournemouth, it was his worst game ever for us (that I can recall) I have zero doubts he is still the same player of 2015-2018, but we are not using him that way if we do not, then he is a £125m luxury player for a side like ours atm it is like taking van Dijk and forcing him to play wingback taking Hazard and forcing him to play a false nine, oh....... wait... Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Stats said: While Barkley has dropped of, it is not as absurd as suggesting Gallagher is better than Mount as he is a full England international but generally speaking, yes I agree with you. I guarantee it will take 2-3 games for CHO to pick up some form then there will be sudden calls for him to be starting regularly.... IF CHO picks up form and Willian continues his turgid downward slide, then anyone NOT suggesting we give CHO a go for a few is just being silly we do not have Liverpool's front 3 nor Spud's front 3 (now that Moura seems to be the starting RWer for the year) we do not have any etched in stone places on the team (nope, not even Kante, not the position we play him at), other than Kepa (and a decent backup would be giving him a hard time atm) and Rudiger (when healthy) Kovacic should be, he has been our best overall player so far this season, and I expect Reece to soon be too, hopefully by next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Vesper said: Gallagher is playing in the Championship let's seem him do it at big boy level before we start comparing him to Mount What has Mount done exactly at a big boy level except starting this season to think Gallagher can't do? Mount has been beyond useless in the last few games, any other manager and he wouldn't even feature in the squad if not for uncle Lampard. I see the myth he is a goal scorer, yeah as consistent and threatening as Oscar was here. Mount can only dream of reaching the heights Barkley has shown at his best. Mount is easily the worst youngster in our batch and most overrated here a jack of all trades master at nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Nicco said: What has Mount done exactly at a big boy level except starting this season to think Gallagher can't do? Mount has been beyond useless in the last few games, any other manager and he wouldn't even feature in the squad if not for uncle Lampard. I see the myth he is a goal scorer, yeah as consistent and threatening as Oscar was here. Mount can only dream of reaching the heights Barkley has shown at his best. Mount is easily the worst youngster in our batch and most overrated here a jack of all trades master at nothing. way too harsh and Barkley has been a flop Mount needs more time he has been pure shit lately, but I expect him to snap out of it Barkley needs to be sold this summer his career has been a bust overall hopefully Mount doesn't end up the same or worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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