Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[Melanicus 5,208]

I personally would love a three of Mata, Hazard and Hulk to play behind Torres next season. Pace, creativity, brute power, and hopefully a fully firing and confident Torres being given bundles of chances - teams would be scared shitless of that attack.

This would be the strongest attack in the world?

-----------Torres-----------

-Hazard---Mata----Hulk-

[Superblue 6,372]

I'd like to think it would rival the attacks of Real Madrid and Barcelona. And in the long term Lukaku to replace Torres?!

We desperately need an attack which will scare teams! The reason why our defence has looked dodgy and conceding a lot more goals over the last couple of seasons is because our attack has become so poor and lacklustre. In the past teams were scared to come at Chelsea because they would be opened up at will and annihilated - and as a result with opponents attacking less, the defence naturally concedes less and looks on the whole better.

All the best teams in the world - Barcelona, Madrid, United, I would say none have as good a backline as we do, yet aren't conceding as many goals. It's because their attack pins teams back, not allowing them to attack very often.

We need an attacking quartet alongside a deeper midfield craftsman and midfield general capable of dismantling teams at will. The fear factor at the Bridge must return. Add that to our defence and we'll once more have potential to dominate.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

If Torres wont get in form till end of seaon, he never will. There is small chance if we buy 2 new midfielders and try that, but Torres had some really good chances recently (after it was announced ''he is back in form''), but he blow them all. The guy should try to score from more difficult positions and actualy score, create chances by himself. Not just 100% chances for him and even then, he misses. I'll never stop believing in him, but this is now going for over a year...

Also, if we will be buying too much, where will Sturridge, Ramires play? If we get Hulk AND Hazard would be good, but if Torres wont get in form, I'd pick Danny as our main striker. Also we dont have consistant DM. Mikel plays hot and cold, Essien is getting old, Romeu is just too young to start regulary and play important matches.

While about Meireles, I wont say anything...

That means, we should look at DM aswell, picking Mvila or Witsel would be great.

We have so many players, but most of them plays shit and yet we will keep them and then they will complain they want to play (Didi, Lamps,...).

We have 4 strikers: Drogba is old, Torres is lacking of form, Sturridge is selfish and more winger, Lukaku...where is he? Buying another striker would mean we have to get rid of at least Drogba and than maybe Torres aswell. Because I dont expect let say Falcao will sit on bench and Torres will play. Turn around, if Falcao would play, than Torres would never get back in form and it would be meaningless to keep him...Than again, we can hope Torres will get in form, and if he does, it would be stupid to buy another striker, if he wont get in form and buying no striker, we are doomed.

Should Sturridge play on wing or CF? If first, we need striker, if second, we should get two wingers than. Is Ramires good enough to play regulary, or we should buy another midfielder and use Rami as sub? Should we play 4-3-3 or 4-2-1-3?

4-2-1-3

----------Cech---------------

Ivan-Luiz-Terry-Cole/Bert

--Mvila/Witsel/Moutinho-Cabaye/Hamšik/Ramires or someone--

-----------Mata---------------

Sturridge/Hulk-Torres/Sturridge/Falcao or someone-Hazard/Ayew/Lavezzi/James Rodriguez or someone

Defense is good, one or DM should be bought, Mata as playmaker. new, left winger desperately needed, maybe also right winger and/or striker. In this case, we would buy max 5 players, 2 DM, left and right winger, and striker. + Right back; Azpi or someone. 6 players. My choice would be one DM (Mvila), left winger(Hazard), RB(Azpi) and striker(Falcao or Cavani) or right winger(Hulk). 5 players to buy. But dont forget for Mata to rest, than we need another playmaker, maybe Belhanda/Cabaye type, who is cheaper and would do great to replace Mata. Or maybe work together. If Torres at best, buy winger, Danny and Lukaku should be good replacement, if Torres bad, get another striker...

or 4-3-3

-----------Cech------------

Ivan-Terry-Luiz-Cole/Bert

--Ramires/Hamšik-Mvila/Cabaye-Mata

Hulk/Danny-Danny/Torres/Falcao...-Hazard/Lavezzi/...

Here we see, new deffensive midfielder should be bought. Mata would be playmaker and would require another playmaker or Ramires. And then we need left winger + right winger and/or striker...In most case 5 new players (almost new team ). And dont forget for new RB, since Ferreira and Bossingwa leave, Azpi or somone there. That makes 6! new players and in this case, all new attack would mean Sturridge and Torres on bench...My choice (not dream one, but most real one) would be RB, 1 new DM(Mvila or Cabaye), playmaker (Hamšik...) to work with Mata, left winger(Hazard) and striker(Cavani or Falcao) or right winger(Hulk). 5 players total. We would have stronger midfield and attack, that is what we need. Maybe another midfielder to rotate, when more games have to be played and players need to rest. About Torres form, I told in previous formation who to buy, another striker or winger.

I guess, second formation is more possible, because we might need someone to work along Mata as playmaker, but I like first one more, because it is more suitable for Mata. There are so many possibilities and questions about strikers, wingers, playmakers,....

I left defence like it is, it is most strong part of team, only RB required. Cahill, Luiz, Terry and Brana CB, Cole, Bertrand LB, Azpi and Brana RB...But the money we would have to pay for those 5 or 6 players is too much...striker 30mio, winger 30mio, playmaker 20mio, RB 12mio, DM 25mio...Hazard, Mvila, Hulk, Moutinho, Witsel, Falcao, Cavani, Hamšik, Lavezzi, Rodriguez,...they would cost more, while Belhanda, Cabaye, Ayew, might cost less. In all, we need some quality players, not Lukakus, de Bruynes or other young ones. Dont even think 28+ ones...Young, experienced , talented and ready for 1st team action is what we need. Abramovich might decide to really open his wallet, because of terrible team we have. Too many old players or average ones...We need better now. To actualy rebuild team, we should spend around 100mio or more, dont expect we will get Cabaye for 10mio, they will want 20mio...and so. But I dont see, we will actualy spend that much. Once again, we wont buy until 25th august and then another Meireles style player and I say f*ck you Chelsea board...I wont be happy if we get one player. 3 top class at minimum, just look how we play and its neccesary to get big players.

But than again, we have young players, I guess De Bruyne and Lukaku and Bertrand and Romeu should stay to replace main players. Bossingwa, Ferreira, Kalou, Essien/Mikel, Drogba, Lampard, Malouda, Meireles out Hate to say Lampard and Drogba out, but they just dont play consistantly and take place instead younger or new players should play...Piazon, Mceachran on loan...

That means 8 players out and 5, 6 players in. + use 3 Lukaku, KDB and Romeu if needed.

Team of season 2012/13 should be

Cech, Turnbull, Hilario

Brana,Azpi,Cahill,Terry,Cole,Bertrand,Luiz

Mata,Mvila,Cabaye/Belhanda,Romeu,Mikel/Essien,Ramires,Hamšik

Torres,Lukaku,Hazard,Danny, Hulk/Falcao,DeBruyne

P.S.: Any young prospect bought for less than 10mio as part of ''future plan'' should be offloaded on loan...

And honestly, I would keep Roberto di Matteo. Only if Mou comes, the guy should stay. It is not his fault, Lampard and co. play so sleepy this times...When they give everything, like against Napoli, we see how they play, but for less important matches, they just dont care really.If Torres wont get in form till end of seaon, he never will. There is small chance if we buy 2 new midfielders and try that, but Torres had some really good chances recently (after it was announced ''he is back in form''), but he blow them all. The guy should try to score from more difficult positions and actualy score, create chances by himself. Not just 100% chances for him and even then, he misses. I'll never stop believing in him, but this is now going for over a year...

Also, if we will be buying too much, where will Sturridge, Ramires play? If we get Hulk AND Hazard would be good, but if Torres wont get in form, I'd pick Danny as our main striker. Also we dont have consistant DM. Mikel plays hot and cold, Essien is getting old, Romeu is just too young to start regulary and play important matches.

While about Meireles, I wont say anything...

That means, we should look at DM aswell, picking Mvila or Witsel would be great.

We have so many players, but most of them plays shit and yet we will keep them and then they will complain they want to play (Didi, Lamps,...).

We have 4 strikers: Drogba is old, Torres is lacking of form, Sturridge is selfish and more winger, Lukaku...where is he? Buying another striker would mean we have to get rid of at least Drogba and than maybe Torres aswell. Because I dont expect let say Falcao will sit on bench and Torres will play. Turn around, if Falcao would play, than Torres would never get back in form and it would be meaningless to keep him...Than again, we can hope Torres will get in form, and if he does, it would be stupid to buy another striker, if he wont get in form and buying no striker, we are doomed.

Should Sturridge play on wing or CF? If first, we need striker, if second, we should get two wingers than. Is Ramires good enough to play regulary, or we should buy another midfielder and use Rami as sub? Should we play 4-3-3 or 4-2-1-3?

4-2-1-3

----------Cech---------------

Ivan-Luiz-Terry-Cole/Bert

--Mvila/Witsel/Moutinho-Cabaye/Hamšik/Ramires or someone--

-----------Mata---------------

Sturridge/Hulk-Torres/Sturridge/Falcao or someone-Hazard/Ayew/Lavezzi/James Rodriguez or someone

Defense is good, one or DM should be bought, Mata as playmaker. new, left winger desperately needed, maybe also right winger and/or striker. In this case, we would buy max 5 players, 2 DM, left and right winger, and striker. + Right back; Azpi or someone. 6 players. My choice would be one DM (Mvila), left winger(Hazard), RB(Azpi) and striker(Falcao or Cavani) or right winger(Hulk). 5 players to buy. But dont forget for Mata to rest, than we need another playmaker, maybe Belhanda/Cabaye type, who is cheaper and would do great to replace Mata. Or maybe work together. If Torres at best, buy winger, Danny and Lukaku should be good replacement, if Torres bad, get another striker...

or 4-3-3

-----------Cech------------

Ivan-Terry-Luiz-Cole/Bert

--Ramires/Hamšik-Mvila/Cabaye-Mata

Hulk/Danny-Danny/Torres/Falcao...-Hazard/Lavezzi/...

Here we see, new deffensive midfielder should be bought. Mata would be playmaker and would require another playmaker or Ramires. And then we need left winger + right winger and/or striker...In most case 5 new players (almost new team ). And dont forget for new RB, since Ferreira and Bossingwa leave, Azpi or somone there. That makes 6! new players and in this case, all new attack would mean Sturridge and Torres on bench...My choice (not dream one, but most real one) would be RB, 1 new DM(Mvila or Cabaye), playmaker (Hamšik...) to work with Mata, left winger(Hazard) and striker(Cavani or Falcao) or right winger(Hulk). 5 players total. We would have stronger midfield and attack, that is what we need. Maybe another midfielder to rotate, when more games have to be played and players need to rest. About Torres form, I told in previous formation who to buy, another striker or winger.

I guess, second formation is more possible, because we might need someone to work along Mata as playmaker, but I like first one more, because it is more suitable for Mata. There are so many possibilities and questions about strikers, wingers, playmakers,....

I left defence like it is, it is most strong part of team, only RB required. Cahill, Luiz, Terry and Brana CB, Cole, Bertrand LB, Azpi and Brana RB...But the money we would have to pay for those 5 or 6 players is too much...striker 30mio, winger 30mio, playmaker 20mio, RB 12mio, DM 25mio...Hazard, Mvila, Hulk, Moutinho, Witsel, Falcao, Cavani, Hamšik, Lavezzi, Rodriguez,...they would cost more, while Belhanda, Cabaye, Ayew, might cost less. In all, we need some quality players, not Lukakus, de Bruynes or other young ones. Dont even think 28+ ones...Young, experienced , talented and ready for 1st team action is what we need. Abramovich might decide to really open his wallet, because of terrible team we have. Too many old players or average ones...We need better now. To actualy rebuild team, we should spend around 100mio or more, dont expect we will get Cabaye for 10mio, they will want 20mio...and so. But I dont see, we will actualy spend that much. Once again, we wont buy until 25th august and then another Meireles style player and I say f*ck you Chelsea board...I wont be happy if we get one player. 3 top class at minimum, just look how we play and its neccesary to get big players.

But than again, we have young players, I guess De Bruyne and Lukaku and Bertrand and Romeu should stay to replace main players. Bossingwa, Ferreira, Kalou, Essien/Mikel, Drogba, Lampard, Malouda, Meireles out Hate to say Lampard and Drogba out, but they just dont play consistantly and take place instead younger or new players should play...Piazon, Mceachran on loan...

That means 8 players out and 5, 6 players in. + use 3 Lukaku, KDB and Romeu if needed.

Team of season 2012/13 should be

Cech, Turnbull, Hilario

Brana,Azpi,Cahill,Terry,Cole,Bertrand,Luiz

Mata,Mvila,Cabaye/Belhanda,Romeu,Mikel/Essien,Ramires,Hamšik

Torres,Lukaku,Hazard,Danny, Hulk/Falcao,DeBruyne

P.S.: Any young prospect bought for less than 10mio as part of ''future plan'' should be offloaded on loan...

And honestly, I would keep Roberto di Matteo. Only if Mou comes, the guy should stay. It is not his fault, Lampard and co. play so sleepy this times...When they give everything, like against Napoli, we see how they play, but for less important matches, they just dont care really.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

This would be the strongest attack in the world?

-----------Torres-----------

-Hazard---Mata----Hulk-

No this would be

----Hazard-----Cavani----Lavezzi----

--------------------Mata--------------------

Imagine

----Hazard------Cavani------Lavezzi----

--------------------Mata-----------------------

---------Cabaye-----------Romeu--------

----Cole-----Terry------Luiz------Ivanovic

-----------------------Cech-------------------

Mouth Watering

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

The mail has a fantastical, wonderful piece today about who Roman wants to bring in next season. Fantasy football time again

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

The mail has a fantastical, wonderful piece today about who Roman wants to bring in next season. Fantasy football time again

Well it's nice to Fantasize over world class players and potential teams, espcially given the Miserable season we're having

This is ONE HELL of a Wish list (except for Pereira)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2128432/Chelsea-owner-Roman-Abramovichs-247m-shopping-list.html

[Superblue 6,372]

I'm certain Roman will splash huge amounts of cash this summer. All this worry of the FFP shouldn't be a concern in regards to transfer spending. Yes it has an impact, but the biggest problem causing the club to make losses year on year is the wage bill.

Looking towards the future a lot of these potential signings will not be earning anywhere near the huge amounts the likes of Drogba, Lampard, Cole and Terry earn. Those wages will not be paid again IMO as the club look to signing younger talents. As the old guard are moved on over the next couple of seasons, the wage bill will drop massively.

I honestly see at least 3 or 4 from this 'list' being signed in the summer, aswell as another couple not on this list. Some are certainly attainable regardless of whether we are in the Champions League or not.

[capriccioso 2,545]

Good post, but we'll have to pay those wages if we want to compete with Man City.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

I'm not worried about FFP. Roman is gearing up to Spend big IMO and deep down that's what every Chelsea fan wants.

[Krypt 241]

question is why would the likes of Modric leave Spurs for no CL football ? yes these are some exciting names. But the likes of hazard will go to united or city , Hulk wont come because the only reason he wanted to be here was for AVB. Cavani will most likely go to another club in the CL and maybe city if they Sell Balotelli.

I feel we will have to look at different targets this summer. Plus the Daily mail are just doing there usual lazy journalism. Chelsea need new players + roman has money + players they have been linked with in the past = New Story.

Its a shame nowadays players only really care about CL football.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

question is why would the likes of Modric leave Spurs for no CL football ? yes these are some exciting names. But the likes of hazard will go to united or city , Hulk wont come because the only reason he wanted to be here was for AVB. Cavani will most likely go to another club in the CL and maybe city if they Sell Balotelli.

I feel we will have to look at different targets this summer. Plus the Daily mail are just doing there usual lazy journalism. Chelsea need new players + roman has money + players they have been linked with in the past = New Story.

Its a shame nowadays players only really care about CL football.

Modric will come to Chelsea IF Twattenham miss out on CL football. From what I've heard Hulk still wants to come to Chelsea even if AVB is not here. City already have players and need to get rid of Tevez first before buying a new striker. Plus Napoli won't finish in the top 3, thus no Champions league. Hazard, well it's a slim chance but I hope we get him, even it if means overpaying, he is going to be out of this world.

[Superblue 6,372]

I've said this on a previous post that Champions League won't be only reason for attracting players. Chelsea are now one of the world's most recognised sides due to our recent success, and especially if a project is sold to players and Roman shows his intent by splashing money and rebuilding a team, players will still join us because they know we will challenge for titles once again, and hopefully only be out of the Champions League for one season therefore. (That is on the basis that we either don't win it or finish 4th)

Add to that living in London, the training facilities and the wages we are able to pay to compete and we still should be able to attract players. I see no reason why the likes of Hulk and Hazard aren't attainable.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

I've said this on a previous post that Champions League won't be only reason for attracting players. Chelsea are now one of the world's most recognised sides due to our recent success, and especially if a project is sold to players and Roman shows his intent by splashing money and rebuilding a team, players will still join us because they know we will challenge for titles once again, and hopefully only be out of the Champions League for one season therefore. (That is on the basis that we either don't win it or finish 4th)

Add to that living in London, the training facilities and the wages we are able to pay to compete and we still should be able to attract players. I see no reason why the likes of Hulk and Hazard aren't attainable.

As long as one of the Spanish Giants doesnt go for Hazard we have a decent chance of Getting Hazard. Like I said, all things considered missing out on 4th spot won't make too much of a difference. FFP is not really and obstacle. I think the Penalites of FFP is if you Don't follow it you miss out on Europen football for a year? Well that won't make any difference if we finish outside the top 4...So basically Finish top 4= Spend moderately, outside top 4= The overhaul begins

[Superblue 6,372]

I think if we finish top 4 it will still be an overhaul. As I said the transfer spend isn't the immediate problem to breaking even - it's the enormous wage bill we have to manage. And if an overhaul means some of the higher paid older players being moved on and replacing with younger players on lower wages, despite the transfer fees, this will improve the long term outlook for the clubs profitability.

[Spike 12,049]

Well it's nice to Fantasize over world class players and potential teams, espcially given the Miserable season we're having

This is ONE HELL of a Wish list (except for Pereira)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2128432/Chelsea-owner-Roman-Abramovichs-247m-shopping-list.html

Well, the image at the bottom of that article claims that Cesar Azpilicueta play for Lille...

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Well, the image at the bottom of that article claims that Cesar Azpilicueta play for Lille...

Exaclty and it says he'll cost the same as Hazard Daily Fail

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Those journalists are just stupid...

I dont know, should we spend enormously, getting besides hazard also hulk and cavani and modric and...

or just reasonably, but still enough top profile players like hazard and mvila, but also cabaye and hoilett. and use youth aswell.

sure paying 250£ mio is what everyone would like to see, having hulk, mata, hazard, falcao, modric and mvila in midfield/attack. that would mean we might win everything next year. but is this way good for our club and respect?

[Mr. Ziggles 110]

I don't even think we need any of those players. Here's like starting XI for next year:

Cech/Courtois

Hutch/Iva - Terry/Cahill/Luiz - Cole/Bertrand

Essien/Mikel/Romeu - Lamps/Meireles

Studge/Kalou - Mata/McEachran - KDB/Mata

Torres/Drogba/Lukaku

Really, Lamps/Meireles can rotate between Mata/McEachran and KDB. And also maybe promote one more defender for CB; a tough run of games and injures could stuff us. Ivanovic going to CB would mean Hutchinson for a lot of games, when he still needs to go through one breakthrough season coming off the bench and all.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

I don't even think we need any of those players. Here's like starting XI for next year:

Cech/Courtois

Hutch/Iva - Terry/Cahill/Luiz - Cole/Bertrand

Essien/Mikel/Romeu - Lamps/Meireles

Studge/Kalou - Mata/McEachran - KDB/Mata

Torres/Drogba/Lukaku

Really, Lamps/Meireles can rotate between Mata/McEachran and KDB. And also maybe promote one more defender for CB; a tough run of games and injures could stuff us. Ivanovic going to CB would mean Hutchinson for a lot of games, when he still needs to go through one breakthrough season coming off the bench and all.

No offence but this is such a Naive post...The old guard and dead wood needs to go. Are you not watching the same season as the rest of us are? We are getting worse with every year, and keeping alot of our current players is not the answer. Who cares if a Overhaul will get us some hate from other jealous fans, an overhaul is NEEDED. Not like in previous seasons when we were just Wanting top players for the sake of it, now we desperately need it. The youth isn't going to do anything this year, loan them out. Josh can't even start at Swansea which says alot.

We WILL spend, it's just a matter of how much. Hopefully alot.

[ZanSnake 1,211]

Hutch - oh how i wish so...