gary gordon 1,777 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Spurs' midfield three of Dembele - Sandro - Paulinho is probably one of the best in the league... if not THE best. Would you swap Mata, Hazard and Oscar for them?? Didn't think so.. We Hate Scouse and Hamilton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 They are central midfielders and not attacking like Mata Hazard and Oscar. So yes Spurs' midfield in one of (in not the) best of the league. But our attacking (advanced) one is the best without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Would you swap Mata, Hazard and Oscar for them??Didn't think so..They play in different parts of the pitch...Would I swap them with Mikel, Lampard and Ramires? Yes, yes I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary gordon 1,777 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 They play in different parts of the pitch... Would I swap them with Mikel, Lampard and Ramires? Yes, yes I would. So you would play with 3 defensive MF's? Good luck with that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Very excited about this Bojan - Ajax loan move. Exactly the move that is needed for him and he should absolutely tear up the scoring charts in Holland this season.I was on an Ajax forum just last night and the fans were drooling over a potential move but completely writing it off as despite being the richest club in Holland, they thought they wouldn't be able to pay their wages. Good for them Ajax doing lovely business this window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 So you would play with 3 defensive MF's? Good luck with that..3 defensive midfielders? Have you ever watched Dembele or Paulinho play? =\You're making yourself look stupid now; I'd quit while you're ahead. Christo191 and Beepu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary gordon 1,777 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 3 defensive midfielders? Have you ever watched Dembele or Paulinho play? =\ You're making yourself look stupid now; I'd quit while you're ahead. Your the idiot that said you would swap them for Mikel, Lampard and Ramires, who correct me if I'm wrong, but all played either in the DM role or sat on the bench last season. Paulinho is your typical box-to-box MF similar to Ramires, but a better attacker then defender. Dembele is a CM, would you swap him for Mata?? The two idiots that liked your post are as clueless as you. Beepu and We Hate Scouse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Your the idiot that said you would swap them for Mikel, Lampard and Ramires, who correct me if I'm wrong, but all played either in the DM role or sat on the bench last season. Paulinho is your typical box-to-box MF similar to Ramires, but a better attacker then defender.Dembele is a CM, would you swap him for Mata??The two idiots that liked your post are as clueless as you.Is this a troll post? Can't tell if serious - your incompetence astounds me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Mata isn't a cm Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Spurs have a fantastic midfield now, this could be the year which they finish above Arsenalhopefully it won't matter to us at all as we'll be challenging for the title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,330 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I don't see how people can even compare them.With regards to the formation Spurs play, yes it's the best midfield. Otherwise I think ours is better. gary gordon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary gordon 1,777 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Is this a troll post? Can't tell if serious - your incompetence astounds me. The fact that you think I'm trolling astounds me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary gordon 1,777 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Mata isn't a cm When you play him in the formation he has been playing for us, he is. When you play with a 35 year old DM/CM (lampard) Mata drops back and takes the ball into the attacking role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I don't see how people can even compare them.With regards to the formation Spurs play, yes it's the best midfield. Otherwise I think ours is better.Even if they played 4-2-3-1 I'd take them three over our potential pivot. A combination of Dembele, Sandro and Paulinho is a better pivot than any combination of Ramires, Lampard, Essien, Mikel, Romeu and Van Ginkel (bit harsh on Van Ginkel as he has only just got here, but yeah). Dembele and Sandro destroyed United before Sandro got injured.We have better attacking midfielders no doubt, but in a 4-3-3 they have a superior starting midfield and in a 4-2-3-1 they have a superior pivot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 When you play him in the formation he has been playing for us, he is.No he isn't... at all. He's basically playing as a second striker for us; he sticks right next to the striker and rarely drops deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Spurs don't have a better midfield than ours, and there's still a lot of moves to be made before September.I don't particularly rate any of their midfielders that highly, they're all solid players but there's nobody outstanding amongst them. It's amazing how so many overrate other teams' players and underrate their own, absolutely baffling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary gordon 1,777 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 No he isn't... at all. He's basically playing as a second striker for us; he sticks right next to the striker and rarely drops deep. Mata on several occasions has to play ball out of our own half. We play a counter-attacking game of football, so the difference between a centre mid and an attacking mid are pretty similar in terms of positional play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary gordon 1,777 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Even if they played 4-2-3-1 I'd take them three over our potential pivot. A combination of Dembele, Sandro and Paulinho is a better pivot than any combination of Ramires, Lampard, Essien, Mikel, Romeu and Van Ginkel (bit harsh on Van Ginkel as he has only just got here, but yeah). Dembele and Sandro destroyed United before Sandro got injured.We have better attacking midfielders no doubt, but in a 4-3-3 they have a superior starting midfield and in a 4-2-3-1 they have a superior pivot.And our Midfield didn't?? If we had a half decent striker, we would have wiped them off the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,330 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Even if they played 4-2-3-1 I'd take them three over our potential pivot. A combination of Dembele, Sandro and Paulinho is a better pivot than any combination of Ramires, Lampard, Essien, Mikel, Romeu and Van Ginkel (bit harsh on Van Ginkel as he has only just got here, but yeah). Dembele and Sandro destroyed United before Sandro got injured.We have better attacking midfielders no doubt, but in a 4-3-3 they have a superior starting midfield and in a 4-2-3-1 they have a superior pivot.But that's just comparing our pivot with their whole midfield, which isn't really the best comparison. I think the point that GG was trying to make it that as a whole our midfield is better. Despite the fact that the front three are attacking midfield players, they still form part of the midfield. gary gordon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 But that's just comparing our pivot with their whole midfield, which isn't really the best comparison. I think the point that GG was trying to make it that as a whole our midfield is better. Despite the fact that the front three are attacking midfield players, they still form part of the midfield.My original post was... their three man midfield of Dembele - Sandro - Paulinho was probably the best in the league and that I would replace Mikel, Ramires and Lampard with those three (which is a perfectly valid comparison)GG then went on some weird tangent about Mata being a central midfielder (which he isn't) - he could never play as one of the three in a 4-3-3. Oscar is untested in the CM role; it may be that is is amazing there - but we don't know.So my point still stands; their starting eleven three man midfield (I emphasize the three man part, as no one seems to be listening) - is better than ours... IMO. Peace. and laura90 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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