Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[Mufassir08 2,400]

But you have to prioritise these things and think logically about the future. You're also forgetting about Ferreira who is a good deputy in case something does go wrong. You're talking about a six month period before a new manager comes in who might want something totally different from his personnel. I would be very, very surprised if our board went after a £15 million defender 'just in case' Azpi gets injured.

Ferreira is unreliable imo and nobody is saying to spend 15m on a center back right now there are cheaper options available like okore who would cost less then 5m and kurt zouma who will cost around 7-10m.These are young players that wont force the likes of terry and ivanovic out of the team but in case they get injured or get tired we will have a young,hungry and eager to impress player come in and take his place.

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Ferreira is unreliable imo and nobody is saying to spend 15m on a center back right now there are cheaper options available like okore who would cost less then 5m and kurt zouma who will cost around 7-10m.These are young players that wont force the likes of terry and ivanovic out of the team but in case they get injured or get tired we will have a young,hungry and eager to impress player come in and take his place.

When Ferreria was asked to come in against Benfica last year, he was magnificent. He's been a great servant so to call him unreliable when he's essentially our third choice is a little unfair.

The players you mentioned might not be unreliable but they are untested and like I said, it's about prioritising your needs and not making signings like this when you're not sure the new guy will want them.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

When Ferreria was asked to come in against Benfica last year, he was magnificent. He's been a great servant so to call him unreliable when he's essentially our third choice is a little unfair.

The players you mentioned might not be unreliable but they are untested and like I said, it's about prioritising your needs and not making signings like this when you're not sure the new guy will want them.

I agree ferreira has been very good for us and always does a job but he ain't getting any younger is he?and i think the new guy would not mind having a young talented cb at his disposal.If you look at all the top team they all have 5 cb's in their squad,Options dont hurt anyone.

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I agree ferreira has been very good for us and always does a job but he ain't getting any younger is he?and i think the new guy would not mind having a young talented cb at his disposal.If you look at all the top team they all have 5 cb's in their squad,Options dont hurt anyone.

It's not about options, it's about needs. We don't need another centre-half at this moment in time when we have 4 very good ones. If Azpi gets injured then we have 3. If one of them gets injured we have 2 and then you're looking at someone like Romeu being the back-up or maybe even promoting Ake. This is how squad building works. It would be great to have 5 players for each position, just in case but you have to be sensible about it and you have to think about the future. You also have to look at nationalities and the squad make-up. If a young English centre-half became available then you make an exception but as it stands it's not something I see us doing.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

It's not about options, it's about needs. We don't need another centre-half at this moment in time when we have 4 very good ones. If Azpi gets injured then we have 3. If one of them gets injured we have 2 and then you're looking at someone like Romeu being the back-up or maybe even promoting Ake. This is how squad building works. It would be great to have 5 players for each position, just in case but you have to be sensible about it and you have to think about the future. You also have to look at nationalities and the squad make-up. If a young English centre-half became available then you make an exception but as it stands it's not something I see us doing.

Well i do think we need a new cb but you have your own opinions so i guess there is no point in arguing.I am hoping that all of our players stay fit through out the season .

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Anyone who watched the realmadrid vs ajax game and saw the first two goals will see how a deep playmaker like modric which chelsea never had will help our team in attack with long passes. We need that in our team with the sturridge money + extra.

We also need some strength in our midfield(fellani), we are all of a sudden bullied in physical games.

We can then swoop for cavani as a proper striker upfront.

CM - fernadinho, moutinho

Fellani for strength

ST - Cavani or falcao

[SinineUltra 1,170]

What do you guys think about Yilmaz of Galatasaray? Banging in goals in CL at every angle

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Striker is priority. Its up to club if they will splash cash or wait for new manager to chose big stiker and niw buy someone cheap until summer.

I hope we get Bony as cheap or Cavani as expensive.

In case Danny goes, we probably need two strikers. The second one should be cheap, but good enough for rotation.

CM also needs improvement, however KDB is coming in summer. I think we should buy Fernandinho/Inler/Vidal/XXX. Someone who will lead midfield, is experinced, wont give up and runs forever. Every team needs heart in midfield and we dont have it yet. Mata is too unbalanced right now.

We dont need CB or LB/RB this winter.

Some strenght would come handy. Fellaini could come, but Im not sure about him too much. If we get strong CM, then this is not required. KDB could be recalled to add some rotation Mazacar, but there are Marin and Moses already.

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My personal opinion is that we will go after top striker (Romans obssesion, but also a need right now). Falcao is most available from big money strikera at moment.

We lack some strenght in midfield. Possibly with experience from Epl already. Vidal is not available, Fernandinho was not linked, De Rossi too expensive, Inler not linked etc. Fellaini is probably the most possible target. If we sell Danny, we probably buy Bony for 10mio (I guess Danny sale would be around 20mio - he still has lot of potential, is young and english).

We will spend big - striker 50mio, Fellaini 20 and possibly Bony 10. We get 20 back (and hopefuly something for Torres). 60mio spend is not that much. However I hope Danny stays.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Demba Ba seems like the best option for january- good price, PL experience which is important especially when the player comes in the middle of a season, and he's a wonerfull striker- very good finisher, good technics on the ball, and he could combine with our attacking midfielders pretty well i think. Plus he can help the club for years, not just this season. great option for 2nd striker when we'll get Cavani or Falcao.

There is actually one minor problem- he's playing with Senegal in the ACON, we'll have him only in Fab, but we should still get him.

Again i dont understand this Fellaini thing, havent got how exactly it will work with him in our team. the CM we need imo is someone like Moutinho or Cabay. If you also want a strong CDM the answer is someone like Capoue, not Fellaini.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Demba Ba seems like the best option for january- good price, PL experience which is important especially when the player comes in the middle of a season, and he's a wonerfull striker- very good finisher, good technics on the ball, and he could combine with our attacking midfielders pretty well i think. Plus he can help the club for years, not just this season. great option for 2nd striker when we'll get Cavani or Falcao.

There is actually one minor problem- he's playing with Senegal in the ACON, we'll have him only in Fab, but we should still get him.

Again i dont understand this Fellaini thing, havent got how exactly it will work with him in our team. the CM we need imo is someone like Moutinho or Cabay. If you also want a strong CDM the answer is someone like Capoue, not Fellaini.

Actualy Cabaye or Moutinho are two weak for this team. Its clearly seen that we need to add some strenght to team (and height). Capoue is DM/CB and we need CM. He has no playmaking abilities. Fellaini is CM/CAM or DM and PL proven with lot of experience, a very important thing. Sure Vidal or Witsel would fit there great too, but they are not available.

[Shogun 721]

By the way, Senegal Didn't qualify for ACON

[sLOVEnian Blue 74]

By the way, Senegal Didn't qualify for ACON

That's right ... Ivory Coast eliminated them in the qualification

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Demba Ba seems like the best option for january- good price, PL experience which is important especially when the player comes in the middle of a season, and he's a wonerfull striker- very good finisher, good technics on the ball, and he could combine with our attacking midfielders pretty well i think. Plus he can help the club for years, not just this season. great option for 2nd striker when we'll get Cavani or Falcao.

There is actually one minor problem- he's playing with Senegal in the ACON, we'll have him only in Fab, but we should still get him.

Again i dont understand this Fellaini thing, havent got how exactly it will work with him in our team. the CM we need imo is someone like Moutinho or Cabay. If you also want a strong CDM the answer is someone like Capoue, not Fellaini.

I know Demba ba from his days in germany, not Bundesliga days, but he was with hoffenheim even when they were playing 4th division. So he is not actually the most talented and technically sound striker in the world, but he is a natural goalscorer, tall and stronger than he looks, decent in the air. Not convinced by his link-up play, but he is surely better than torres (and yes, fanboys i know he scored twice today, but my cat would have scored at least as much in that game). No one for the future and no one to rely on but clearly s.o. who can help us at the moment to make up the numbers . No quite sure if he is a fit characterwise. Although he is a nice guy and close to the fans he is rather egocentric and has the reputation of a mercenary in Germany. If Sturridge leaves us in Winter this move would be ok, bt I think bony would cost the same money and help us more.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Actualy Cabaye or Moutinho are two weak for this team. Its clearly seen that we need to add some strenght to team (and height). Capoue is DM/CB and we need CM. He has no playmaking abilities. Fellaini is CM/CAM or DM and PL proven with lot of experience, a very important thing. Sure Vidal or Witsel would fit there great too, but they are not available.

It realy depends on the football you want to see from the team or basically on the manager we'll have. With someone like Pep in charge, i can see us going for a midfield of CDM- Cabaye/Moutinho- Oscar, which is kind a simillar for what he had in Barcelona. I still didnt understand what kind of midfielder do you want.. youre talking about Fellaini and than talk about "playmaking abilities" which is somthing Fellaini doesnt have at all. strenght and height is something you want to add, not sure if thats what the new manager will want. The question is where are we going? right now we have a very "tiki taka-ish" attacking midfield, but our double pivot is Mikel and Ramires- a due that do have advantages in Ramires's speed, dynamics and energy and Mikel's height and power, but lacks things like creativity, smart attacking game, good passes to get the team forword, and off course cant organize the game good enough- this work always going to "Mazascar" and then we're stock becuase they need to organize the game alone and create too. I cant see how Fellaini will improve any of those issues, and with our midfield it will be imposible to get to the level of Bayren ,Real, Barcelona. The first question that need to be ask is who stays in the first 11? Mikel? Ramires? any of them? right now im under the impression non of them need to be a regular starter in our future "World class team", and im saying that when im thinking Ramires is one of our best players, just not sure he'll have a place. If we could get our hands on someone like Xabi Alonso or De Rossi i think Ramires could play next to them, but i dont know an available midfielder in the market that can do their job. So, my solution is play with Oscar and Moutinho, next to a DM like Capoue. If Pep realy going to be the new boss, i can see something like that happens.

[Krypt 241]

Demba Ba seems like the best option for january- good price, PL experience which is important especially when the player comes in the middle of a season, and he's a wonerfull striker- very good finisher, good technics on the ball, and he could combine with our attacking midfielders pretty well i think. Plus he can help the club for years, not just this season. great option for 2nd striker when we'll get Cavani or Falcao.

There is actually one minor problem- he's playing with Senegal in the ACON, we'll have him only in Fab, but we should still get him.

Again i dont understand this Fellaini thing, havent got how exactly it will work with him in our team. the CM we need imo is someone like Moutinho or Cabay. If you also want a strong CDM the answer is someone like Capoue, not Fellaini.

I think Ba would do also.

Just get someone in who can score some goals and have a few strikers to choose from. Then in the summer sort out the rest.

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It realy depends on the football you want to see from the team or basically on the manager we'll have. With someone like Pep in charge, i can see us going for a midfield of CDM- Cabaye/Moutinho- Oscar, which is kind a simillar for what he had in Barcelona. I still didnt understand what kind of midfielder do you want.. youre talking about Fellaini and than talk about "playmaking abilities" which is somthing Fellaini doesnt have at all. strenght and height is something you want to add, not sure if thats what the new manager will want. The question is where are we going? right now we have a very "tiki taka-ish" attacking midfield, but our double pivot is Mikel and Ramires- a due that do have advantages in Ramires's speed, dynamics and energy and Mikel's height and power, but lacks things like creativity, smart attacking game, good passes to get the team forword, and off course cant organize the game good enough- this work always going to "Mazascar" and then we're stock becuase they need to organize the game alone and create too. I cant see how Fellaini will improve any of those issues, and with our midfield it will be imposible to get to the level of Bayren ,Real, Barcelona. The first question that need to be ask is who stays in the first 11? Mikel? Ramires? any of them? right now im under the impression non of them need to be a regular starter in our future "World class team", and im saying that when im thinking Ramires is one of our best players, just not sure he'll have a place. If we could get our hands on someone like Xabi Alonso or De Rossi i think Ramires could play next to them, but i dont know an available midfielder in the market that can do their job. So, my solution is play with Oscar and Moutinho, next to a DM like Capoue. If Pep realy going to be the new boss, i can see something like that happens.

Fellaini would be the DM who breaks up play and links defence and attack. Alongside him you could probably play someone like Oscar.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Fellaini would be the DM who breaks up play and links defence and attack. Alongside him you could probably play someone like Oscar.

Sorry but he cant do that. Dont know how you got the impression that he can do that in the top levels of football, you dont have evidence fot it. WIth that central midfield, we'll have no central midfield when we're not in position. This fuzz about Fellaini here is wierd, because what he's doing so good this season is being a AM/SS, and suddenly is on top of our wishlist.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Sorry but he cant do that. Dont know how you got the impression that he can do that in the top levels of football. WIth that central midfield, we'll have no central midfield when we're not in position.

I got the impression he could do that from him doing that exact thing very, very well for Everton. Where did you get the impression that he couldn't?

[nadavTKL 1,787]

I got the impression he could do that from him doing that exact thing very, very well for Everton. Where did you get the impression that he couldn't?

He doesnt, he playes as a SS/AM like i said. Look at Everton- they play with TWO MIDFIELDERS BEHIND HIM. What the hell are you talking about.

Need more? here's the formation they are using: http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/261613/teams

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He doesnt, he playes as a SS/AM like i said. Look at Everton- they play with TWO MIDFIELDERS BEHIND HIM. What the hell are you talking about.

Sorry, but whilst you're correct about where he is playing right now, he hasn't played in that position for the entirety of his career.

He arrived at Everton as a DM, was one of the best players in the league in that position and really only moved forward out of necessity.