stroey 2,525 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Otamendi was huge, showed great versatility, would like him here much more than HummelsHe was not at the worldcup last summer, was he injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I really, really hope Chelsea scouts were present at the Barcelona - Valencia game to watch Gomes and Otamendi. Otamendi in particular producing a gargantuan performance. Oh man, he was so good. He's exactly the kind of defender this team needs.It was a wonderful game btw. 2-0 is a bit harsh on Valencia, it was a very tight game.He was so, so good. Reminding me of Lucio from Mourinho team, literally the only defender that Messi can't beat with dribbling, stands still and waits for the right moment. Also that was his second monstrous performance against Barcelona this season. He thrives in the big games ...But that ship has sailed I think. He was on the market and cheap. Porto wanted to get rid of him, there's a reason why he only costed like 12m€ instead of something in 30m€ region, mind.Now Valencia can want over 40m€ for him and doubt that Chelsea would be interested in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I wouldnt say tight, Valencia should have lead 2-0 at least in the first half, they pressed so well and Barcelona paid for starting with Mascherano-Busquets-Xavi in midfield, they couldnt keep the game calm. 2nd half Valencia didnt have the same energy and Rakitic got in.... Valencia are great, its a shame they missed so many chances, that could cost them for the 4th place.Otamendi? they woudlnt sale, they have the money there, he would maybe go for 50m euros imo.I disagree. 2-0? Why cancel Barca's goal? They should have scored in the first half, they created plenty of chances. But they were on the backfoot for the entire second half. It was a matter of waiting for a 2nd goal for Barca. Of course, if they scored in the first half, we would've seen a different match. Deserved win for Barca in the end, though 2-1 would've reflected the match better. I'm sure Valencia will finish in the top 4 though.They have a rich owner but they still have plenty of debts if I'm not mistaken. 50 mil is excessive. I think they'd sell for something in the region of 30-35 mil, they bought him for 12 mil. They can get a replacement. I'm not saying I'm sure of it but if Otamendi would want to join, I think it could happen.He was so, so good. Reminding me of Lucio from Mourinho team, literally the only defender that Messi can't beat with dribbling, stands still and waits for the right moment. Also that was his second monstrous performance against Barcelona this season. He thrives in the big games ...But that ship has sailed I think. He was on the market and cheap. Porto wanted to get rid of him, there's a reason why he only costed like 12m€ instead of something in 30m€ region, mind.Now Valencia can want over 40m€ for him and doubt that Chelsea would be interested in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I'm on the same boat with some of you guys worried about Cuadrado at the moment. Willian will stay next season. We need to buy another winger, Alexis or Reus or Griezmann, anyone between those 3 will make me happy.I can't see Oscar leaving next summer, unless some mega money club offer 40-50 millions for him, which is very unlikely either. But agree we need to buy one more MC or AMC. Isco or Koke or Pogba, anyone between those 3 will make me happy.Sadly we will say goodbye to Drogba it seems. Hopefully Bamford could be there, but I will be not that upset if he is loaned to Boro one more season if they promoted to PL. No need to rush a thing. We will then need to buy another 'oldies but goodies' striker. Ibra or.... who else? lolCahill has back to his best, Zouma the beast, Terry and another young CB is good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I'm on the same boat with some of you guys worried about Cuadrado at the moment. Willian will stay next season. We need to buy another winger, Alexis or Reus or Griezmann, anyone between those 3 will make me happy.I can't see Oscar leaving next summer, unless some mega money club offer 40-50 millions for him, which is very unlikely either. But agree we need to buy one more MC or AMC. Isco or Koke or Pogba, anyone between those 3 will make me happy.Sadly we will say goodbye to Drogba it seems. Hopefully Bamford could be there, but I will be that upset if he is loaned to Boro one more season if they promoted to PL. No need to rush a thing. We will then need to buy another 'oldies but goodies' striker. Ibra or.... who else? lolCahill has back to his best, Zouma the beast, Terry and another young CB is good enough for me.Recall kalas for cb. And get koke and sterling. RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Recall kalas for cb. And get koke and sterling.Yes, that will do too. How could I forgot about Sterling, lol. lucio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Nabil Fekir would be an interesting acquisition, no? echelon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Recall kalas for cb. And get koke and sterling.No sterling mannyfreshh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I really, really want to break Valencia fans hearts and sign Alcacer. I'm sure that if he signed for a mid table team like Liverpool (a perfect fit for both club and player IMO) we'd all cry out to sign him the following season after seeing him score game after game. Of course here, he'd be back up for Costa, but maybe he'd accept that, considering he won't be winning trophies (major ones anyway) any time soon with Valencia.They have a great squad in general this season that i'd love to raid. Perez is a hot head that gets a yellow card every match that he plays but i'd love him too.Parejo would be a brilliant alternative to Fabregas & Gaya is the next big left back (if we were to lose Luis). *sighs lustfully*I won't even touch on Otamendi, everyone knows how good he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I really, really want to break Valencia fans hearts and sign Alcacer. I'm sure that if he signed for a mid table team like Liverpool (a perfect fit for both club and player IMO) we'd all cry out to sign him the following season after seeing him score game after game. Of course here, he'd be back up for Costa, but maybe he'd accept that, considering he won't be winning trophies (major ones anyway) any time soon with Valencia.They have a great squad in general this season that i'd love to raid. Perez is a hot head that gets a yellow card every match that he plays but i'd love him too.Parejo would be a brilliant alternative to Fabregas & Gaya is the next big left back (if we were to lose Luis). *sighs lustfully*I won't even touch on Otamendi, everyone knows how good he is.Why do you hate Valencia?[emoji25] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siwy_CFC 7 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 No sterlingWhy not? We can get the best wings in PL if we sign him. We dont need another Willian ("defensive winger") working hard in whole pitch is important but we lose a lot points because we can play in only one way, if we want to attacking we need offensive players like Hazard and like Sterling. In my wishlist exist Clyne and Koke too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Why not? We can get the best wings in PL if we sign him. We dont need another Willian ("defensive winger") working hard in whole pitch is important but we lose a lot points because we can play in only one way, if we want to attacking we need offensive players like Hazard and like Sterling. In my wishlist exist Clyne and Koke too.Cause he's not as good as people think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 according to reports mourinho wants five new signingshttp://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/572017/Chelsea-transfer-plans TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 http://metro.co.uk/2015/04/22/chelsea-close-on-aymeric-laporte-transfer-adidas-will-help-them-5161718/Laporte is another good option for our Centre-Back, although I prefer Varane ahead of any option, but this guy could be a perfect choice.The only problem is that his final price have to be 30 million pounds because Athletic Bilbao only accepts the price of the clause to any sale (Javi Martinez had to resort to an article in the Spanish law to pay only the amount you put in the clause and not pay additional taxes) and Athletic would not accept any of our players for lowering the final price because they only have players born or origin of the Basque Country.By the way, yesterday Isco spoke after the game and he affirmed to be "hurt" because of the way that Ancelotti has treated him. Yesterday and today in Spain it is said that he would have decided to leave Real Madrid this summer. I think Isco would be an option rather interesting.Regards to ALL. stroey and TheIceMan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 http://metro.co.uk/2015/04/22/chelsea-close-on-aymeric-laporte-transfer-adidas-will-help-them-5161718/Laporte is another good option for our Centre-Back, although I prefer Varane ahead of any option, but this guy could be a perfect choice.The only problem is that his final price have to be 30 million pounds because Athletic Bilbao only accepts the price of the clause to any sale (Javi Martinez had to resort to an article in the Spanish law to pay only the amount you put in the clause and not pay additional taxes) and Athletic would not accept any of our players for lowering the final price because they only have players born or origin of the Basque Country.By the way, yesterday Isco spoke after the game and he affirmed to be "hurt" because of the way that Ancelotti has treated him. Yesterday and today in Spain it is said that he would have decided to leave Real Madrid this summer. I think Isco would be an option rather interesting.Regards to ALL.what do you think of inigo martinez. very impressed with him whenever i have watched sociedad. supporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Isco seems so unlikely. He has to want to go, Real have to want to sell, then we have to fend off competition from city psg etc. It'll be amazing if we got him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! supporter 3,088 Posted April 24, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted April 24, 2015 what do you think of inigo martinez. very impressed with him whenever i have watched sociedad.Hi friend!Iñigo Martinez is a good player but I think he is one level below Laporte, Varane or Otamendi. Probably it will be a perfect to play on a team like Valencia, Sevilla or Atletico Madrid, but no player for Real Madrid, Barcelona or Chelsea.But I. Martinez is a very elegant player with a good ability to play the ball from behind that, if he could come with us, could evolve much with Jose.In addition, players from the Country Basque usually very reliable, very disciplined in the game, like Azpilicueta.I think it's an interesting option, but might not be a Top Centre-back to our starting eleven and Real Sociedad always sell very expensive their players and negotiate with them is always complicated. But Iñigo Martinez is a very disciplined player who could improve their rencimiento much with us, but hardly could be our starting eleven first year as in the case of Varane, Laporte or Otamendi.Regards. iseah100, stroey, Fernando and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 This summer will be interesting to see how the staff and Mourinho will further evolve our squad and I'm suddenly so excited because of all your posts about potential signings. IMO this season we've suffered because of the lack of rotation, and why didn't we rotate enough? I think because Mourinho doesn't trust the bench players enough. Mou often had great bench options at his former clubs which he trusted and those guys also rewarded his trust.I remember he had bench options like Higuain, Kaka, Carvalho, Albiol, Coentrao, Callejon, Lassana Diarra, Granero, and later Modric at Madrid. When Di Maria wasn't playing well, ''ok Callejon go warm up'', when Benzema wasn't playing well he said:''Ok my cat isn't playing well, Higuain(dog) go warm up.'', when Ozil wasn't performing, Kaka was already ready to come on. He always had options he could trust, and that's what is missing here I think. So next year, I hope we finally have some bench players he could really trust, so we can finally rotate well. He obviously did not trust Salah, and it's the same with Cuadrado. Schurrle was one he trusted but he was sick this season and left. He only uses Ramires in certain tough games, Mikel is only trusted in the final minutes and we've no adequate replacement for Cesc. So this summer I hope and think we will fix this. So for me the priorities are at least one good CM with defending abilities and one good CAM who could play the 3 spots behind the striker in our 4-2-3-1. Mentioned by people from this forum and rumored: CM/CDM: Khedira(free), Witsel, Scheiderlin, Pogba, Gundogan, Gomes, Koke* CAM: Isco, Reus, Bale, Koke*, Douglas Costa, Felipe Anderson I have not watched the likes of Gomes (Valencia), Douglas Costa, Felipe Anderson (Lazio) enough to have an opinion on them, but I do agree we should go all out for elite level players to move us to the level of Bayern, Barca and Real. For me, Koke/Gundogan(30-40M) and Isco/Reus(30-40M) would be a dream. But I'd be satisfied with something like Scheiderlin/Khedira + Isco/Reus/Koke. CM/CDM:I agree with supporter, Pogba is impossible/very difficult, Real, PSG, Barca, City will go all in for him, and Raiola is one of the most frustrating agents to do business with. Without 100+ Million Euro's, he won't let the deal come through. Koke is easier, he will never go to the direct rival Real, our only rival is Barca but they have the ban till Jan 2016 and it's not common to sell key players in January, so basically a ban till summer 2016. Gundogan was a star in their CL final season, if he replicates 90% of that form he would be the perfect signing. Khedira as a warrior and free squad option for us who covers B2B, CM and CDM, one squad player Mourinho really can trust. Schneiderlin would also be good if he's cheap but I doubt that.CAM:Our most important piece is the CAM, who can help Eden out with attacking the defenders? Isco has tricks and vision, him interchanging with Eden and Willian would be a joy to watch. Reus would be another great signing, he scores goals from distance. is fast and direct, he would release pressure from Eden as the only attacking mid who could change games. Bale is good too but way too expensive, he was bought for 100m Euro's can't see Madrid decreasing the price heavily since Bale is still young. GK+Defence:For other options, the GK we clearly have to replace Cech with an experienced keeper and our defense is still good for the next year. Adding a great young CB like Varane, Stones with Terry coaching him would be great. If we have two faster CB's our game could improve as a whole, but can't see Mourinho dropping Terry yet. lucio, blu35_army, supporter and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Hi friend!Iñigo Martinez is a good player but I think he is one level below Laporte, Varane or Otamendi. Probably it will be a perfect to play on a team like Valencia, Sevilla or Atletico Madrid, but no player for Real Madrid, Barcelona or Chelsea.But I. Martinez is a very elegant player with a good ability to play the ball from behind that, if he could come with us, could evolve much with Jose.In addition, players from the Country Basque usually very reliable, very disciplined in the game, like Azpilicueta.I think it's an interesting option, but might not be a Top Centre-back to our starting eleven and Real Sociedad always sell very expensive their players and negotiate with them is always complicated. But Iñigo Martinez is a very disciplined player who could improve their rencimiento much with us, but hardly could be our starting eleven first year as in the case of Varane, Laporte or Otamendi.Regards.Do you think camacho , parejo ,illaramendi or s.Roberto could play for chelsea ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Do you think camacho , parejo ,illaramendi or s.Roberto could play for chelsea ?Hi friend!I think any of them have level to play with us. In Spain, after winning Euro-World Cup-Euro, many teams sell their players as if they were Xavi Hernandez, Xabi Alonso and Iniesta. But actually many of them are mid-level players.Illaramendi had very good performance with Real Sociedad and lower categories of Spain, and everyone spoke of him as the new Xabi Alonso. But Real Madrid Illara has had a lousy performance, significantly below the expectations, with a passive personality and a very gentle personality nothing game. Probably some kind team Arsenal or Liverpool pay money for it thinking "new Xabi Alonso," but he has no level to play with us.Sergi Roberto is too young / inexperienced and practically he has not played in the last two years with Barcelona. I think he does not have level for Liverpool or Arsenal. Probably end up in a team level over Spain. The problem of the players from La Masia is that Barcelona say they are "The new Messi" but from Thiago Alcantara other players have failed. Luis Enrique has not opted for Sergi Roberto all season despite the problems of Barcelona with Busquets and defense issues. I do not see S. Roberto playing with us.Camacho is a player of great ability to fight in the grass but nothing more. I remember when he was at Atletico Madrid and he was a little frustrating. I think that Malaga is a good team for him.Parejo was the jewel in the crown of Real Madrid. But after I had bet him to play in Getafe and end its level is for a lower team. Even in Valencia has struggled to find its place, but is now highly valued by Valencia. I think even Valencia is a very big team for him ...I would not trust a lot of the players made "Made in Spain" because after Spain wins sometimes seems that his players are like "Puyol, Pique, Xavi, Xabi, Iniesta, Silva ..." but really are not . In England, English, there are best players. But perhaps for Arsenal, Tottenham or Liverpool they can have level, but I think not to play with us.Players like Isco, Thiago Alcantara, (perhaps Iñigo Martinez), Koke, Morata or Jese are players who have a great future in Spain with level to play with Chelsea.Regards. ILoveLamp, The Skipper and lucio 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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