Jose Bosingwa is...

[wisey11zola25 142]

OUR DEFENSIVE WEAK LINK.

i think most on this forum are in favour of him and rate him, just wanted to see if anyone else agress with me that he is not good enough!

Don't really have the time to write all my reasons but i will back up my statement if theres big disagreement.

I can't help but feel its the fact that hes portugese that he gets the nod over playing...

Ivanovic Luiz Terry Cole.

I understand today may have been an acception due to Luiz's 120 minutes in the Carling Cup, but i just don't rate him highly enough to be starting in our defence.

Poor tackler and Poor Marker (At fault for the goal conceded today and most other goals conceded from crossed balls)

[zolayes 14,489]

I have too much respect for AVB to think he bases his selections on nationality

[Kez 2,727]

He's good going forward I think that's his strength but yeah he is weak defensively. I'd much rather see Ivan at right back he hasn't done a bad job there so far.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

...a full-back.

What do you expect him to be, a miracle worker? He's competent both defensively and going forward, if you want defensive rigidity go for Ivanovic, if you want an attacking flair then Bosingwa is your man.

He can't be both.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Don't think AVB wants to play Ivan as RB, which is why Bos has been playing a lot.

Expect us to get a new RB in the summer, or maybe even in January.

Edited September 24, 2011 by Super-Frank

[Kojo 4,676]

Jesus christ everyone is overreacting over one mistake from a free kick. He was solid in defence today, he played well, bad crosses, but he's made good crosses too, that's something he can't change, but defensivly on that set piece he can change, because all he needed to do was go forward and clear it, AVB will sort that out, just like AVB told him to make a more defensive approach, and he did. He's played brilliant in his games before this one, it's been his worst performance yes, but he had a solid game. It's crazy in my opinion how you are overreacting from this.

[Guest justin_3d]

What ever happen to trying to Van der Wiel?

[Sheva. 5,373]

What ever happen to trying to Van der Wiel?

He's just like Bosingwa, good at going forward, average at defending.

[wisey11zola25 142]

Wasn't having a dig at AVB, im as big a fan as any of him, just thinking of reasons

I understand the full-back argument but i just think hes too clumsy (especially defensively) but also the majority of the time when attacking, watched the game today on a stream and he had about 5 simple crosses within the opening 20 minutes that which he either rolled to the opposition or sliced into the shed end,

When he gets it right, fair play to him, but i don't feel hes consistent enough, and whilst we concede so many from set pieces/aerial balls i think its safer to have Brana there, who also attacks pretty well and is a lot more consistent both defensively and in playing the simple cross/pass.

I know full-backs arent expected to be top class defenders at all times, but with the attacking force we have and the offering of Ash as an attacking full back i just feel we need that extra defensive support and then we still have the pace and movement of Meireles,Ramires,Ashley,Sturridge/Nico,Mata to work the wings and accelarate up-field.

Edited September 24, 2011 by wisey11zola25

[tnchelsea 79]

Can't cross for shit

Can't defend for shit

Can't shave his mono-brow for shit

That is all.

[Guest justin_3d]

He's just like Bosingwa, good at going forward, average at defending.

Dam. Is there any good RB out there we can get?

[Sheva. 5,373]

Dam. Is there any good RB out there we can get?

Sagna

Seriously though i have no idea lol.

[francozola 2,040]

He's been much better this season but for the long term we definitely need to get someone better

[manpe 10,861]

He is a wing-back, Ivanovic is a full-back when played at right... AVB likes wing-backs in his game plan. Cole was a great signing by us, he's one of the few who is good at both going forward and defending. Rarely do you see somebody who is the full package and at world class standard. If Bosingwa sorted his crossing out, I'd have nothing against him and he'd easily be considered a world class wing-back... that's the most irritating part of his game, he crosses often and everytime I can tell after it's leaving his boot if the cross is headed for shit.

[warnie_666 1,081]

People just arent satisfied with a win I see. There isnt a single weekend without slacking your players.

We won a game today FFS. And Boss has had his first average game of the season and there are already fans looking for a replacement.

[ChelseaFanMKD 41]

...a full-back.

What do you expect him to be, a miracle worker? He's competent both defensively and going forward, if you want defensive rigidity go for Ivanovic, if you want an attacking flair then Bosingwa is your man.

He can't be both.

Yeah, but the point is that lately Bosingwa isnt so good as attacking full-back should be - his crosses are far from average, and he looses the ball sometimes upfront.

If you ask me, Branislav over Bosingwa.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Cole was a great signing by us, he's one of the few who is good at both going forward and defending.

Very true.

[wisey11zola25 142]

He's been much better this season but for the long term we definitely need to get someone better

completely agree with that, i was hyping him in pre-season ready for AVB to get the best out of him, i beleive he's improved but hes still not of a high enough level to start for a club like us, but as a lot of people say its hard to find a RB that can defend/attack well consistently, just feel the likes of Chris Smalling playing well for United shows top clubs realise the stereotypical 'slim small pacy right back' is not working all the time' i think Brana will do a job there as well as anyone can, can't think of who will be bought in, but im sure that'll be our next move in January or the End of Season market