Kostas 1,468 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 If that's not fake it simply is the most awesome football picture ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Well, I respect Zidane, but the french is miles away from the diminutive argentinian.Messi is an alien. Zidane was a great, but is far from being the greatest ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Well, I respect Zidane, but the french is miles away from the diminutive argentinian.Messi is an alien. Zidane was a great, but is far from being the greatest ever.Curious, has Messi ever scored on Brazil?? I know ZZ has & setup a game winner in another match. Just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson 358 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Curious, has Messi ever scored on Brazil?? I know ZZ has & setup a game winner in another match. Just saying and thats make Zidane the greatest ever? and yes, Messi scored against Brazil.Americans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Americans... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 and thats make Zidane the greatest ever? and yes, Messi scored against Brazil.Americans...BTW, you are an American too. You just live in South America. No, you didn't get my point at all. Go on & believe that da messiah is better than Zindane. I can watch this footage & believe otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Their can't be a greatest: I love Zidane and Ronaldo (Brazilian obviously) and Pele, Maradona, Cruyff, Di Stefano etc. It is maybe a little easier to argue of a generation, but greatest will probably depend on who you grew up watching. I grew up with the likes of Zidane and Ronaldo but can look back at the pedigree and skills of both Pele and Maradona to think they were truly unbelievable.Pele and Zidane laughing with each other? This must be fake It's 100% due to the fact this was a louis vuitton ad, without the money it couldnt happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 He may not be the greatest of all time currently, but remember he is only 24 years-old... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Strange how defenders are NEVER mentioned when we talk of the greatest, I guess defence doesn't matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Wee Pat Nevin was way better than the Argie growth hormone cheat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I personally think you have to win the World Cup, or at least have an outstanding international career, to be amongst the greatest.Messi has years to achieve, as does Ronaldo.In the meantime, Pelé, Maradonna, Eusebio, Cruyff, di Stefano and Puskas are the greatest. Then you have the del Pieros, Charltons, Yashins, Zindanes, Zolas, Beckenbauers, Bests, etc. who are in that second level... that is where Messi and Ronaldo currently sit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 .You cant compare the 'greats ' of yesterday and today with parity.The game , ball, pitches, refereeing, physiotherapy, diets etc have changed the face of football so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 .You cant compare the 'greats ' of yesterday and today with parity.The game , ball, pitches, refereeing, physiotherapy, diets etc have changed the face of football so muchExactly the thoughts I conveyed in the first response to this question, only to be shot down for supposedly being unwelcoming to a new member Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Exactly the thoughts I conveyed in the first response to this question, only to be shot down for supposedly being unwelcoming to a new member You're right. Chelsea v Leeds 1970 Cup Final -the Wembley pitch the week before was used for Horse of the Year show, and just left. It was like First World War trenches. It took a kind of player to adapt - the Osgoods, Webbs, Housemans, Clarkes, and Charltons might not be so deft if playing today, but they were used to those pitches week in week out. The balls were heavier. Messi might have been good, but no better than Charlie Cooke -(tongue slightly in cheek) Nottingham Forest CL winners under Clough -their half time 'team talk consisted of a few shots of Whisky. Comparing those with the Arsene Wenger macro-biotic dietary fed players of the 21st century is difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Strange how defenders are NEVER mentioned when we talk of the greatest, I guess defence doesn't matterYeah, it's mostly entertainment value that people judge players on. Even Beckenbauer, a widely considered best defender of all time, was an entertaining player (supposedly, I haven't seen him in action myself except for youtube clips). But the most eccentric and entertaining players get mentioned as the greatest for obvious reasons, qualities that defenders rarely possess. We have Luiz, an eccentric player in defence, and half people want to move him upfield... it seems only boring fucks are allowed to play in defence But zolayes, who would you consider the greatest coming from defence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Funny how everyone this week is breaking out the polish the help bring up the gloss on da messiah's nutz. Didn't hear any of that last week though :confused: Did the Venezuela match have something to do w/ that??? So if that is the case, shouldn't we be glossing Iniesta & Xavi's nutz????He's not average for Argentina, i believe your the one who constantly links that video of him missing a free kick, which is supposed to determine his whole Argentinian career. I've seen many games with Messi playing for Argentina he certainly isn't average, not as good as he is at Barca but not average at all, he battered Spain when they beat Argentina beat them 4-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Yeah, it's mostly entertainment value that people judge players on. Even Beckenbauer, a widely considered best defender of all time, was an entertaining player (supposedly, I haven't seen him in action myself except for youtube clips). But the most eccentric and entertaining players get mentioned as the greatest for obvious reasons, qualities that defenders rarely possess. We have Luiz, an eccentric player in defence, and half people want to move him upfield... it seems only boring fucks are allowed to play in defence But zolayes, who would you consider the greatest coming from defence?not many better than Beckenbauer(if any ) roberto carlos might get a few votes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Strange how defenders are NEVER mentioned when we talk of the greatest, I guess defence doesn't matterDefenders are boring, they try and stop the beautiful side of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Wee Pat Nevin was way better than the Argie growth hormone cheat Stop it now your making me cry of laughter. Cruff was one hell of a player ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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