Sunderland 1-2 Chelsea

[didierforever 7,349]

What we need to do against United is to not have this high defence line, Seriously United always long ball, and they will take a shit on us with this high defence line, We need to be better defensivly, and we cannot rely on Mata, i don't think any team can have a free role player against United unless they do really well, United mark the shit out of playmakers and the main man, David Silva always struggles against United. Midfield is the key, as it always has been against United, do not be so afraid of them were a different team compared to Bolton.

no doubt that if we keep this ridiculous high defensive line then we ll be mauled by them... i dont think that terry and iva's speed together can match young or hernandez. Plus another thing that worries me is bosingwa. Even though he has been one of our best players so far but can we really play him defensively against young or nani. This is worrying the hell out of me.

[Sheva. 5,373]

I disagree, Torres is a big game player.

Meh. But it's possible he might start, giving the fact that Drogba is injured and Anelka is too inconsistent.

Though we won it was a bad game by our standard. Good start for Mata and good to see Sturridge carry on the form with the goal. If this is the way we are going to play, get ready to be bashed up next week. Sunderland is a team that is really lacking in all the departments and yet we only managed a couple. One moment of brilliance from them caught us completely hence missing on the clean sheet yet again.

I hope AVB has a better plan sketched out for the season. because this is not the way free flowing football is played, this is more of the Mourinho style

Don't really think it was a moment of brilliance, more like a lucky flick by Bendy lol

And bad game? wow, we all have our opinions i guess.

[didierforever 7,349]

I disagree, Torres is a big game player.

HAHHAHAHAHA.... This is exactly what even ancelotti thought last season when he played torres against manu in cl. We all know how that ended.

[Kojo 4,676]

I disagree, Torres is a big game player.

No, don't give me all that rubbish about Torres is good against United, because he's good against United when he's playing for Liverpool, not Chelsea, he had a good game when we beat them 2-1, but besides that he hasn't done anything. Sturridge is a risk yes, because Ferguson knows hes inexperienced and he will know what to do with him, but Sturridge has a lot more chance than Torres to score at Old Trafford, and i'd much rather go with Sturridge to be honest.

[Blauw 105]

no doubt that if we keep this ridiculous high defensive line then we ll be mauled by them... i dont think that terry and iva's speed together can match young or hernandez. Plus another thing that worries me is bosingwa. Even though he has been one of our best players so far but can we really play him defensively against young or nani. This is worrying the hell out of me.

Iva-Luiz-Terry-Cole

Ramires-Meireleis-Lampard

Sturridge-Drogba-Mata

They should put this formation and they must not play with the high defense line.

Then Chelsea has a chance to win.

[warnie_666 1,081]

Well i still liked the buy of Meireles. I am not complaining about that.

But i did not understand the point of letting go of Yossi if we did not get Modric or someone like Sneijder.

I think they had to free up a foreign player's place for Meireless. We needed someone in the Central Midfield. Benayoun although he can play there is not really a CM. He is more like Malouda. Now Meireles, going buy today's performance could turn out to be a steal for 12m. His passing was crisp and had good possession of the ball. Played like a playmaker from the deep.

[Guest justin_3d]

I think they had to free up a foreign player's place for Meireless. We needed someone in the Central Midfield. Benayoun although he can play there is not really a CM. He is more like Malouda. Now Meireles going buy today's performance could turn out to be a steal for 12m. His passing for crisp and had good possession of the ball. Played like a playmaker from the deep.

If they had to free up a foreign player place, why did they not let go of Ferreira, or Kalou?

We desperately needed more creativity in the mid, not less.....

[Kojo 4,676]

no doubt that if we keep this ridiculous high defensive line then we ll be mauled by them... i dont think that terry and iva's speed together can match young or hernandez. Plus another thing that worries me is bosingwa. Even though he has been one of our best players so far but can we really play him defensively against young or nani. This is worrying the hell out of me.

I'm being entirely honest here when i put this

Mata-Sturridge-Bosingwa

Mierles-Mikel-Ramires

Cole-Terry-Luiz/Alex-Ivanovic

Cech

Mikel had a good game against United when we last played them, he cooled the midfield down and sorted it out, when he came on it went uphill for us, i think Lampard is a huge risk because how he does under perform a lot and can give the ball away, i think Meireles is spot on with passes forget about the longballs, at Liverpool every match i saw him play in he always finished that pass, i think it's very important. Ramires plays well against United and he has to play this one in my opinion, Sturridge is a risk but who else can we play?, Torres is out of form and would be stupid to put him up against United and Lukaku is far too young to start this game, it would be very harsh on him. I choose Bos at right wing because effectivly he has been superb, defending i absalutely agree, against the likes of young and Nani he wouldn ever be able to handle them, Ivanovic has had a great game against them last season in my opinion. Playing Anelka right wing would be a big risk if he switches off and to be fair he hasn't had the best of games against United recently despite his form atm, making him starter is a risk. The only person i can think of to put there is Bosingwa, where i think he would play well there to be honest. The only big risk is i hope Sturridge doesn't get cramped in the box.

Of course Drogba if he is ready might be able to play, but making him starter cud be a bit.. uhm... not a good idea, returning from his injury in such. But i shouldn't forget the game against Laverkusen, if we have any outstanding perforamces or good ones of course then yes we should play them, If torres plays which he will do since he has enery left in him and has a very good game then i might change my mind about him in the game against United, but what i'm saying doesn't mean anything, because AVB is the manager round here and i only hope he makes the right choice, this is the only thing i would go with, but i'm going by chances and risks, i don't see how our players perform in training or talk to them individualy so yes i could be entirely wrong.

[didierforever 7,349]

I thought being a Chels fan and supporting our players could go hand in hand? Anyone who has watched Nando this season can see he is running his heart out and giving it his best so for you to say that one fluffed shot at the end of the match makes him a high profile-give up-selfish son of a bitch" doesnt tell the whole story now does it you tit? The problem here is not people being overly pro Torres, in fact people can see that it aint happening for him and that he is, to quote Carlo, not in a good moment but EVERYONE outside of this club is waiting to write, comment or pontificate about how he didnt score or didnt play well or was dropped to the bench...you would have thought that the few places he would get a break would be on the clubs fan sites but apparently not. The poor shot/pass he had at the end of this game does not sum up Torres as a man, his goal scoring abilities and the fact that he was up until not too long ago regarded as one of the best in the world certainly do

"supporting chelsea and its players go hand in hand", well you are so right about it but some fags like you are BLAMING avb "for taking it out on torres". now if that is not a 2 edged sword. plus i dont care if torres scores or not, he can go all season long without a goal and i ll still say he played well enough only if he puts CHELSEA ahead of his needs (which he apparently is not). plus i can suppport a player only if he gives me something to cling to. right now torres is definitly not what we need.

[coolhead23 1,147]

Don't really think it was a moment of brilliance, more like a lucky flick by Bendy lol

And bad game? wow, we all have our opinions i guess.

Well it turn out brilliant for us right , we won because of it.

And yes i would say a bad game, because we didnt even match the levels we played the last time around at the same ground and a better team.

[Naked Mole Rat 437]

We had Yossi, and let him go on loan to Arsenal......

Benayoun's not a starter, and he's nothing like Lampard. I doubt AVB would've left Benayoun out of his plan without a good reason.

[Guest justin_3d]

Benayoun's not a starter, and he's nothing like Lampard. I doubt AVB would've left Benayoun out of his plan without a good reason.

Yossi was playing better then Lampard!

It's what AVB said about playing player on form.

Yossi was on form, and Lampard not.

Yossi would have been better kept then some other players we have in our team.

[manpe 10,861]

I would appreciate it if someone posted the full match later

[Naked Mole Rat 437]

Yossi was playing better then Lampard!

It's what AVB said about playing player on form.

Yossi was on form, and Lampard not.

Yossi would have been better kept then some other players we have in our team.

Like I said, he must have had a special reason to not include Yossi in his plan. Maybe Yossi is not the kind of player he needs.

[Guest justin_3d]

Like I said, he must have had a special reason to not include Yossi in his plan. Maybe Yossi is not the kind of player he needs.

And Ferreira or Kalou are?

[termninja 5,290]

And Ferreira or Kalou are?

This is probably their last year here...

[Sheva. 5,373]

'Today it went very well for us in terms of what we want to achieve. Not that we haven't tried to do it before but it just didn't happen in the other three games,'

'Fortunately today we were able to do the passing which relates more to the way we train and the team played very well.

'I just have to focus on what the owner has told me and one of his obsessions is playing well and that's what we are trying to do. We have to add trophies to the playing-well situation and that's our main focus as a top team, there's nothing new in that. '

- AVB

[manpe 10,861]

And Ferreira or Kalou are?

Maybe nobody wanted to loan them... who knows. Benayoun's stocks rised greatly during the pre-season so we had teams knocking on the door. On the other hand Kalou's value drops rapidly and Ferreira... he's a good backup player, but I often forget he's even in the team and he has no game time under him, other teams have nothing to scout so he too probably wasn't very needed by other teams.

[Guest justin_3d]

Maybe nobody wanted to loan them... who knows. Benayoun's stocks rised greatly during the pre-season so we had teams knocking on the door. On the other hand Kalou's value drops rapidly and Ferreira... he's a good backup player, but I often forget he's even in the team and he has no game time under him, other teams have nothing to scout so he too probably wasn't very needed by other teams.

Will QPR, West Brom, Stoke or any other team would not want them? Even on loan?

And yeah Ferreira is a ghost. But how much is he getting in wages?

[manpe 10,861]

Will QPR, West Brom, Stoke or any other team would not want them? Even on loan?

And yeah Ferreira is a ghost. But how much is he getting in wages?

And wages are another issue, would those 2. grade teams be willing to pay their wages? Probably not... maybe half or a quarter. Ferreira gets something similar like Kalou afaik, 50-60k/week. But you have to ask that question to the frontmen of QPR, WBA and Stoke why they didn't want them... they probably have their teams assembled already and didn't need them.