Juan Mata

[nadavTKL 1,787]

How much depth does Mata actually provide if Mourinho doesn't trust him?

It sounds awfully unfair on Mata, but he's appeared in all three of our league defeats this season.

In our wins against Man City, Liverpool and Man United he was an unused sub (apologies if any of this is wrong).

Now that's not a massive sample size but there are a few other games.

Against both Norwich away and Cardiff at home we were drawing 1-1. After Mata was removed in both games, we went on to win scoring a combined FIVE goals.

Again, not a massive sample size but Mata simply isn't as important to this team as he once was and doesn't seem to fit into Mourinho's plans so what value does he actually have to this team?

Again, one injury to one of the Am's, and we're out of depth at all, do you think its ok for a team that wants to win the title?

Mata is a AM, he could play some games- the more easy games in the rest of the season, and keep Oscar/Hazard/Willian fit for the tougher game in the same week. This will happen and we need some cover, not a lot right now maybe, but in the coming months.

[duo11bluecl 207]

Obviously when you got a Ferrari, a Porsche, a Lamborghini, a Bentley. Eventually you would have to sell the Porsche or the Bentley if you want to buy a new Bugatti so I see nothing wrong here. Obviously all of those cars are shiny and makes your garage look nice, but they aren't needed.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Again, one injury to one of the Am's, and we're out of depth at all, do you think its ok for a team that wants to win the title?

Mata is a AM, he could play some games- the more easy games in the rest of the season, and keep Oscar/Hazard/Willian fit for the tougher game in the same week. This will happen and we need some cover, not a lot right now maybe, but in the coming months.

I don't know if there are any easy games though.

I actually think that Schurrle might be ahead of Mata in the pecking order too. Against Southampton Hazard played in the middle ahead of Mata, with Schurrle on the left.

It's possible he's our 5th choice AM right now, ignoring our ability to play 433 especially with Matic added to the squad and Lamps fit again. That means we have 4 players for 2 positions potentially.

[lionsden 4,689]

What type of supporter wants to see an ex-player 'destroy' the team he professes to support, just so he can be proven right?

I'm happy Eto'o proved me wrong on Sunday. I'm happy Willian proved me wrong. I'm happy Cahill proved me wrong. You know why? Because it was best for Chelsea Football Club.

Fuck Mata FC, you seem to be supporting Gilvorak FC.

"mata FC" vs "mourinho FC" Let's get ready to rumble (Michael buffer voice)

[Special Juan 28,097]

lol what? in this post i was just explaining to you why i keep posting.. becuase you said "I'm pissing into the wind with you". And i already explained why i think you're wrong, did you realy missed it? it was the last 3-4 posts.

I know its opinions, but this is a forum...

This is very weird from you. very weird.

Because you can't understand my opinion.

This is very weird from you.

[Spike 12,049]

Maybe it's because I fell in love with Juan Mata after that interception goal mere seconds after his debut but I really want him to stay. I really, really, really do. I just can't get my head around what has changed. Really what has? It's not like Mou always has hardworking players. Ozil is the laziest bastard in the world but he was Mou's darling for years. Why can't Mata be?

[lionsden 4,689]

Maybe it's because I fell in love with Juan Mata after that interception goal mere seconds after his debut but I really want him to stay. I really, really, really do.

So you are "mata FC"

[Mufassir08 2,400]

I think Mata will be sold sooner or later,the only thing that is unclear is that whether he'll leave in this window or the summer's.I firmly believe that if United offer us 40-45m Jose will sell him in January.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Because you can't understand my opinion.

This is very weird from you.

nah... i think i did.

[Spike 12,049]

So you are "mata FC"

Am I not allowed to enjoy a player and delight in watching him play at his best every week for the team I support?

[Special Juan 28,097]

I think Mata will be sold sooner or later,the only thing that is unclear is that whether he'll leave in this window or the summer's.I firmly believe that if United offer us 40-45m Jose will sell him in January.

If he ain't gone this window he will go in summer. If he is going to United in the summer then Rooney comes the other way IMO.

[lionsden 4,689]

Am I not allowed to enjoy a player and delight in watching him play at his best every week for the team I support?

Apparently not. not on this forum anyway. ironically though, you can show deep admiration and support for Mourinho and other squad players without been stigmatized. just not mata or anyone/anything that gives off the impression of undermining Jose.

[The Chels 2,502]

I understand the reasons some fans think it would be best if he were sold, but surely not to Manchester United?! Yes they may be willing to pay more than any other team but I, for one, would be much more comfortable with Mata going abroad so that he wouldn't be playing for one of our domestic rivals even if we'd receive a lower transfer fee. Whilst United might not be rivals this season you can be sure they will be the next (or at least the one after): after all they are still Manchester United! They weren't willing to sell us Rooney and according to the Guardian (v. reliable) they are still not willing to sell him to us even as part of a deal for Mata. And so we should definitely not be willing to help them out either. You'd think the board would know that Mata is and has been one of the Chelsea supporters' favourite players these past couple of years so to see him marginalised from the first-team and sold would be bad enough, let alone selling him to the team with which we've been competing domestically for the past decade or so. Watching him run riot for United week on week would be heartbreaking.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

I don't know if there are any easy games though.

I actually think that Schurrle might be ahead of Mata in the pecking order too. Against Southampton Hazard played in the middle ahead of Mata, with Schurrle on the left.

It's possible he's our 5th choice AM right now, ignoring our ability to play 433 especially with Matic added to the squad and Lamps fit again. That means we have 4 players for 2 positions potentially.

The 4-3-3 thing is an assumption, from nowhere almost. Jose love this 4-2-3-1 and thats the formation he build on for the whole season. Why realese a player who is important for our ability to play that formation all the time?

And again, you are not talking about the possibility of an injury for one of those AM's,

Easy? i havent talked about easy games.. im sure Mata can play in games that arent 'Easy' for us.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

If he ain't gone this window he will go in summer. If he is going to United in the summer then Rooney comes the other way IMO.

I agree that he'll leave whether it's January or in the summer but if he does stay here till the summer then I'd prefer him to go abroad maybe PSG or Atletico.