Juan Mata

[Barbara 15,149]

get a room guys

Aren't they a beautiful couple? They're having their first fights, how cute.

on my part the free show ends here. What I can't read, I can't comment on. There's a line about respecting the others that I try to never cross and I hope people don't cross with me. Call me stupid, ignorant, wrong or delusional, but don't tell me I did something I didn't to win a stupid internet discussion. That's for kids or ... something I better not write here.

So if you were bringing the popcorn (or the tomatoes) sorry to end the fun

[Dion 2,476]

Its more a divorce with a hefty law suit

A real pity. I like you both and it saddens me to see petty fights over silly stuff like this, I don't even know what you guys were talking about because when I saw the direction things were taking I stopped reading. Well. Whatever.

[Barbara 15,149]

A real pity. I like you both and it saddens me to see petty fights over silly stuff like this, I don't even know what you guys were talking about because when I saw the direction things were taking I stopped reading. Well. Whatever.

the wisdom that I lacked, clearly. Lesson taken though

Petty fight it is... I've seen many of those here and I refuse to take part on them from now on. Learning the hard way instead of the easy. I should have listened when people tried to show me

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Its more a divorce with a hefty law suit

Stay together for the kids :-P

[Barbara 15,149]

Stay together for the kids :-P

you made me laugh out loud here.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

on my part the free show ends here. What I can't read, I can't comment on. There's a line about respecting the others that I try to never cross and I hope people don't cross with me. Call me stupid, ignorant, wrong or delusional, but don't tell me I did something I didn't to win a stupid internet discussion. That's for kids or ... something I better not write here.

So if you were bringing the popcorn (or the tomatoes) sorry to end the fun

just when i was getting started

[Sidzeret 2,257]

you made me laugh out loud here.

If only u cud see me now.. lmfao

[Dion 2,476]

Back to Mata, people.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Back to Mata, people.

;-)

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Back to Mata, people.

Absolutely, CAM or LW? .. I've heard him describing himself as a winger

[Dion 2,476]

Absolutely CAM or LW? .. I've heard him describing himself as a winger

I think it would be better for the team to deploy him as a RW mostly. That would leave the CAM spot for Oscar or KDB, supposing we kept playing 4-2-3-1, which I'm not sure is ideal. Anyways, with KDB's return and Schurrle signing we now have so many quality options. I was thinking, maybe KDB could be the DLP we need, his long passing looks promising from all the videos I've seen. If he can provide defensive cover to some extent he could be our most versatile player, delivering good performances in double pivot (DLP) and CAM because of his passing and long shooting or as a winger because of his crossing and ability to curl the ball, he looks to have some speed in him as well, not to mention his dribbling capabilites, he's probably the best dribbler of the team if the data I gathered is true. That would give us many ways to build the team and would help rotating players a great deal. I would really love if he could become a Gerrard or Xabi Alonso for us. And we all know how much Mou relied on and liked Xabi. In addition, if he could perform that role well, we could potentially have all our best attacking players together on the pitch.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

I think it would be better for the team to deploy him as a LW. That would leave the CAM spot for Oscar or KDB, supposing we kept playing 4-2-3-1, which I'm not sure is ideal. Anyways, with KDB's return and Schurrle signing we now have so many quality options. I was thinking, maybe KDB could be the DLP we need, his long passing looks promising from all the videos I've seen. If he can provide defensive cover to some extent he could be our most versatile player, delivering good performances in double pivot (DLP) and CAM because of his passing and long shooting or as a winger because of his crossing and ability to curl the ball, he looks to have some speed in him as well, not to mention his dribbling capabilites, he's probably the best dribbler of the team if the data I gathered is true. That would give us many ways to build the team and would help rotating players a great deal. I would really love if he could become a Gerrard or Xabi Alonso for us. And we all know how much Mou relied on and liked Xabi.

I'd like to see Oscar or MvG inherit the likes of Alonso or any DLP for that matter. KDB and Mata are more forward players who can work the place in the edge of the box.. They'll both fit in 4-3-3 under Mou

[Dion 2,476]

I'd like to see Oscar or MvG inherit the likes of Alonso or any DLP for that matter. KDB and Mata are more forward players who can work the place in the edge of the box.. They'll both fit in 4-3-3 under Mou

I feel KDB edges Oscar by a significant amount in the long passing department, which is one of the most important aspects of a DLP. That's why I believe he could work better. Also his long shots would come handy whenever he made runs forward. Dribbling skills never go to waste even if you are playing in the pivot. The only downside is wasting his crossing, but it would still be useful for corners and free kicks.

However, I feel the best scenario would be a 4-3-3 with him and Oscar interchanging roles and operating together. Mata would play as RW, Hazard as LW plus whoever is our best striker at the time.

[Barbara 15,149]

I think it would be better for the team to deploy him as a LW mostly. That would leave the CAM spot for Oscar or KDB, supposing we kept playing 4-2-3-1, which I'm not sure is ideal. Anyways, with KDB's return and Schurrle signing we now have so many quality options. I was thinking, maybe KDB could be the DLP we need, his long passing looks promising from all the videos I've seen. If he can provide defensive cover to some extent he could be our most versatile player, delivering good performances in double pivot (DLP) and CAM because of his passing and long shooting or as a winger because of his crossing and ability to curl the ball, he looks to have some speed in him as well, not to mention his dribbling capabilites, he's probably the best dribbler of the team if the data I gathered is true. That would give us many ways to build the team and would help rotating players a great deal. I would really love if he could become a Gerrard or Xabi Alonso for us. And we all know how much Mou relied on and liked Xabi. In addition, if he could perform that role well, we could potentially have all our best attacking players together on the pitch.

I'd like to see Oscar or MvG inherit the likes of Alonso or any DLP for that matter. KDB and Mata are more forward players who can work the place in the edge of the box.. They'll both fit in 4-3-3 under Mou

Based on what Mourinho said about Mata the other day - something along the lines of him liking to play players with the wrong-foot in the wings - and the fact that Mata is the only left-footed among the players he mentioned, it's clear he'll try to play him there (right wing).

I remember Mata - vaguely - from Valencia playing in the wing... for Chelsea I think he showed the best results in the center, but I don't think he'd have a problem to play there again if he did it consistently for Valencia.

The thing is I think 4-3-3 works much better for us than 4-2-3-1 - although Mou hinted he prefers 4-2-3-1 (in general). I like Oscar (or Kevin) being the third man in the midfield, closer to the advanced players and a fierce and strong double-pivot behind him. Then we could have Hazard and Mata in the wings and Schürrle or Lukaku or another striker as the most advanced in the final three.

I think we miss the players to competitively play 4-2-3-1 and until Lukaku is ready (or we sign a better striker than Torres and Ba) we won't make much better in the formation. In this the three could be Mata (rw), Oscar (cam), Hazard (lw) + striker.

I'm not sure about Oscar becoming a DLP because I want him closer to the box, with freedom to roam and enter the box if he pleases to make a 2-1 play or to assist or receive an assist, etc. Although he has the pass to play deeper, I still think it's a waste to have him so far from the box for the most part of the match.

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I feel KDB edges Oscar by a significant amount in the long passing department, which is one of the most important aspects of a DLP. That's why I believe he could work better. Also his long shots would come handy whenever he made runs forward. Dribbling skills never go to waste even if you are playing in the pivot. The only downside is wasting his crossing, but it would still be useful for corners and free kicks.

However, I feel the best scenario would be a 4-3-3 with him and Oscar interchanging roles and operating together. Mata would play as RW, Hazard as LW plus whoever is our best striker at the time.

I agree about Kevin's long passes being better than Oscar's - which is why I think he would fit the position better than Oscar.

Oscar either plays in AM or stays on the bench for me.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Based on what Mourinho said about Mata the other day - something along the lines of him liking to play players with the wrong-foot in the wings - and the fact that Mata is the only left-footed among the players he mentioned, it's clear he'll try to play him there (right wing).

I remember Mata - vaguely - from Valencia playing in the wing... for Chelsea I think he showed the best results in the center, but I don't think he'd have a problem to play there again if he did it consistently for Valencia.

The thing is I think 4-3-3 works much better for us than 4-2-3-1 - although Mou hinted he prefers 4-2-3-1 (in general). I like Oscar (or Kevin) being the third man in the midfield, closer to the advanced players and a fierce and strong double-pivot behind him. Then we could have Hazard and Mata in the wings and Schürrle or Lukaku or another striker as the most advanced in the final three.

I think we miss the players to competitively play 4-2-3-1 and until Lukaku is ready (or we sign a better striker than Torres and Ba) we won't make much better in the formation. In this the three could be Mata (rw), Oscar (cam), Hazard (lw) + striker.

I'm not sure about Oscar becoming a DLP because I want him closer to the box, with freedom to roam and enter the box if he pleases to make a 2-1 play or to assist or receive an assist, etc. Although he has the pass to play deeper, I still think it's a waste to have him so far from the box for the most part of the match.

edit:

I agree about Kevin's long passes being better than Oscar's - which is why I think he would fit the position better than Oscar.

Oscar either plays in AM or stays on the bench for me.

Looks like we're all set.. Now we need DDR

[Barbara 15,149]

Looks like we're all set.. Now we need DDR

With DDR I think we can make the 4-2-3-1 better than what we have.

also I realize my post might have been ambiguous about Oscar. In 4-2-3-1 I prefer him to be a AM or just warm the bench instead and rotate with someone in the position. In 4-3-3 I think he can play as the most advanced midfielder.

Either way, I think Mourinho will make some tests with Mata in the right wing and I hope Mata can perform well there and get used to the position again.

Also, it's expected for them to rotate in the three positions during the matches, so he won't be on the wing 90 minutes.

[wj818 25]

I can see Mata's future as a RCAM in a 4-2-3-1. Or RW In a 4-3-3. Also I think he can play as a SS in a two striker formation.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

With DDR I think we can make the 4-2-3-1 better than what we have.

also I realize my post might have been ambiguous about Oscar. In 4-2-3-1 I prefer him to be a AM or just warm the bench instead and rotate with someone in the position. In 4-3-3 I think he can play as the most advanced midfielder.

Either way, I think Mourinho will make some tests with Mata in the right wing and I hope Mata can perform well there and get used to the position again.

Also, it's expected for them to rotate in the three positions during the matches, so he won't be on the wing 90 minutes.

Either way, we ought to get a more direct football... 1-0 scorelines , here we come