Jase 43,479 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Mata returning would mean one of two things.1. Mourinho would have to admit he was wrong, which he isn't.2. Mourinho has been sacked. which is highly unlikely.Did think of that but who knows? Things may well change a few years down the road.It doesn't surprise me. When he played under Di Matteo with Malouda, Anelka as "wingers" he wasn't impressing me. Was often playing sideways pass and was incapable of beating a man or at least drive with the ball wich draw defenders and create space.It was Oscar Hazard coming last year that made him look more impressive than he is.Mata is not exactly a dribbler on the ball and one that is fully capable to run at defenders like Hazard or Willian, what do you expect? I get what you're saying but to put in another way rather than discrediting Mata, quality players are gonna look less quality when you are playing with average players. Put the likes of Hazard or Oscar in another team like Crystal Palace and I don't think you'll see the same level of performances like now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ25 45 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 After reading several articles, finally I understand why a world-class manager like Del Bosque preferring Silva over him. Styles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrategiC 73 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 After reading several articles, finally I understand why a world-class manager like Del Bosque preferring Silva over him. Why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I can not believe the hate Mata is getting. First of all I really don't think Mata really pushed for a move to United,it was Jose's call and after analysing everything our manager asked the Spaniard about this proposed move and he simply agreed upon it as he had no other options.PSG could have been an option but their intentions are on Cabaye because he is French and a cheaper option. Mata is a terrific footballer and deserves to play every week and lol what is this crap about him being happy and all smiley in a red shirt. Let him enjoy his game,he's obviously not going to be sulky and sad.Anyways Mata has been one of the reasons why we achieved so much over the past 2 seasons. His contributions will never be forgotten. I understand that it all hurts us to see him play for United but we just have to accept it and move on. â•«rue Blue, Korial, AswinR and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GZ25 45 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Whyhttp://theweststandobserver.wordpress.com/2014/01/26/mataphysics-of-a-relationship/"Mata finds himself in a team chasing for the top 4 places. This is not impossible to imagine Mata encounter the same sort of situation do MU become again a genuine title contender in the next 20 months" :eyebrows: Spike and SeB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Did think of that but who knows? Things may well change a few years down the road.Mata is not exactly a dribbler on the ball and one that is fully capable to run at defenders like Hazard or Willian, what do you expect? I get what you're saying but to put in another way rather than discrediting Mata, quality players are gonna look less quality when you are playing with average players. Put the likes of Hazard or Oscar in another team like Crystal Palace and I don't think you'll see the same level of performances like now.He's a good player but he has not a cutting edge.The way he played yesterday reading many comment of Manchester United fans was how I expected him to play especially with Valencia and Young in the wing.I guess he will look extra good again if he plays with Januzaj that will eliminate players in midfield.He played deep yesterday, playing either very conservative passes or speculative long balls. He played good last year as second striker but it was Oscar Hazard that were going past players. Like I said earlier, it was Oscar, Ramires, Hazard and Torres that were doing the work of carrying the ball, going past players, movements around the box that were giving him extra time and space in the final third. Barbara and kellzfresh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 He's a good player but he has not a cutting edge.The way he played yesterday reading many comment of Manchester United fans was how I expected him to play especially with Valencia and Young in the wing.I guess he will look extra good again if he plays with Januzaj that will eliminate players in midfield.He played deep yesterday, playing either very conservative passes or speculative long balls. He played good last year as second striker but it was Oscar Hazard that were going past players. Like I said earlier, it was Oscar, Ramires, Hazard and Torres that were doing the work of carrying the ball, going past players, movements around the box that were giving him extra time and space in the final third.Seeing him play with ashley young and valencia reminded me of when he played with malouda and kalou... Vanpersie is no drogba either. Mata will have as much impact as his first season here with those clowns by his side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshybizzle 109 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Mata was a great player, a great guy and will live fond in my memory, could prove to be a thorn in our side in the future maybe, but i don't hold a grudge against him for moving and i felt his open letter was very true to how he must have felt as he was packing his bagsGood player, good guy, bad situationCan we stop gushing over him now? You guys are becoming stalker ex's.. i'm waiting for someone to write a poem or make a creepy collage with his eyes cut out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 NishC300 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 uglier in red shirt. and that face.. lol That picture, lol Be interesting to see where and how he plays when Rooney is back.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Juan still appears on the kit ads here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 You people are just so mean. Can't I even just dream, pray, wish, hope that will happen? That's all we can do I'm afraid.......It's a cold cruel world.... Didn't play very well yesterday according to friends who are United fans... But ofc it takes time to settle.According to the Jim White, he had a great influence. His pass to Young set up the move for their opening goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk21 11 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 He may not be typical legend, but he helped us win first CL title. I guess after 50 years, Chelsea fans will tell stories about those 11 'legends' who brought us first ever CL title. Some bigger some smaller, but all heroes and legends being a part of cl winning team makes you a legend? with that logic oriol romeu is a chelsea legend. well - who am i to say that he isnt.also nicolas anelka is real madrid legend then.. Barbara 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 United fans are deluded to think mata and adan will start together on the wings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 After reading several articles, finally I understand why a world-class manager like Del Bosque preferring Silva over him. You didnt have to read the articles, you could have just asked me. Silva is a much better player than him.Silva also is a much better player for Spain. Korea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cech's helmet 220 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Jose Mourinho has been recalling his time as Joe Cole's manager, saying he is pleased he was able to develop our former midfielder, now at West Ham, into a better player.Cole is yet to turn out at Stamford Bridge since leaving Chelsea in 2010, and unfortunately injury prevents him from playing any part in today's game, where he would certainly have received a fantastic reception from former colleagues and supporters alike.Cole was a key component of Mourinho's title-winning sides in 2005 and 2006, with the Portuguese helping convert our former number 10 from a skilful midfielder capable of individual brilliance to a team player capable of consistency and quality in equal measure. Mourinho reflected on that transformation ahead of our game with Cole's current employers, West Ham.'I very much enjoyed working with Joe,' our manager said.'Maybe I'm wrong - and Joe is the one that can say if I'm wrong or not - but my opinion is that with us he had the best time of his career. He had a difficult five or six months but after that I think he had the best three years of his career with Chelsea and as a consequence of that with England, because he was a regular player for England too.'As a coach Joe is one of the examples you keep, and I keep a lot from my career, where you feel that we did something to make a player better. I like this because when you have players with talent but not other things, you can give them the other things. When the players have the other things but they don't have the talent, you cannot give them the talent.'The way you train, the way you face competition, the responsibility to play in a collective situation and be ready to play in different positions and in different tactical systems - these are the things we managers can give them. Joe was a very talented player at that time and I think we helped him to be better.'http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3642304/title/mourinho-a-great-exampleEveryone needs to read this. I'm pretty sure he's slagging Mata there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 According to the Jim White, he had a great influence. His pass to Young set up the move for their opening goal.No he didn't, what game was he watching ?? I barely heard his name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svita 10 186 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 very poor from Cohen this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 He's a good player but he has not a cutting edge.The way he played yesterday reading many comment of Manchester United fans was how I expected him to play especially with Valencia and Young in the wing.I guess he will look extra good again if he plays with Januzaj that will eliminate players in midfield.He played deep yesterday, playing either very conservative passes or speculative long balls. He played good last year as second striker but it was Oscar Hazard that were going past players. Like I said earlier, it was Oscar, Ramires, Hazard and Torres that were doing the work of carrying the ball, going past players, movements around the box that were giving him extra time and space in the final third.So you are basically Mata was only good because he had those players doing the things you mentioned?! Seriously, I don't know what is wrong with some people this season being so keen to play down Mata's abilities and discrediting all those great things he has done for us in the past 2 seasons.For starters, Mata is an advanced playmaker that dictates the play in the attacking third and you obviously then gonna need players to make off the ball movements to allow chances to be created and allow Mata to exert this influence. And let's not act like as is Mata himself doesn't pass and move around to offer himself as a passing option and/or drag players away so that others can shine as well. You think players like Hazard, Oscar are able to dribble and get players if they don't have players like Mata, Torres and others don't make off the ball movements? They will just be running into cul-de-sacs!Also comparing the likes of Hazard, Oscar etc with their ability on the ball to get past players with Mata is just nonsensical when they are different type of players with their own unique abilities on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 very poor from Cohen this timeAlmost, if not, all of his songs are rather cringeworthy IMO. Svita 10 and ZanSnake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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