JayC 171 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Mata deserves better anyway. He made the right choice. We won't bench him.By the way, you just sold us your best player. Thanks. I'd try and care about your feelings on this, but after reading the thread and comments made about my club I don't seem to be able to give a damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kunter 22 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 The whole story is disgusting.He will always be a special player for me so all the best or the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,765 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Mata deserves better anyway. He made the right choice. We won't bench him.By the way, you just sold us your best player. Thanks. I'd try and care about your feelings on this, but after reading the thread and comments made about my club I don't seem to be able to give a damn.Not the best player. Hazard is the best player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,765 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 If united play with 2 forwards along with Mata and Januzaj they would be vaunrable every single time their not on the ball. Moyes has a task on his hands finding the right formation to accomodate Mata and get the best out off him.He will have to adopt a narrow formation I guess. As you said, 4 players attacking like that won't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC 171 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Not the best player. Hazard is the best player. I hope you don't honestly believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Time to move on people this is Chelsea FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,765 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I hope you don't honestly believe that.Why? Hazard is/will go to a higher level than Mata did. Contribution wise. I know they can't be compared as they're different players Reddish-Blue and Beigl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC 171 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Why? Hazard is/will go to a higher level than Mata did. Contribution wise. I know they can't be compared as they're different playersIn terms of overall ability they can be compared - Mata currently has more; out-performing Hazard every season he's had equal opportunity in. He is more naturally gifted in my opinion too. I see where you are coming from to a point though. Hazard can get better, but so can Mata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,716 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I hope you don't honestly believe that.Why not? In the old system Mata was the best..and I repeat: the old system. Things haven't worked that well this season, although he should have had more minutes.I'm not convinced he can completely turn things around for United, but I wish him all the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,765 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 In terms of overall ability they can be compared - Mata currently has more; out-performing Hazard every season he's had equal opportunity in. He is more naturally gifted in my opinion too. I see where you are coming from to a point though. Hazard can get better, but so can Mata.He's a good player but not entirely sure United needed a CAM like him. I thought Moyes was looking at a CM, someone like Thiago, Kroos, Fabregas. Mata has never played central midfield here, always one of the attacking midfield spots. he outperformed Hazard for one season here but then again, it was Hazard's first one at Chelsea and in England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 In terms of overall ability they can be compared - Mata currently has more; out-performing Hazard every season he's had equal opportunity in. He is more naturally gifted in my opinion too. I see where you are coming from to a point though. Hazard can get better, but so can Mata.Only 1 season and it was hazard's first season, i dare to say that hazard was allready better than mata by the end of last season.Are you being serious by saying that mata is more natural gifted than hazard? Sounds like a joke to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,666 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 In terms of overall ability they can be compared - Mata currently has more; out-performing Hazard every season he's had equal opportunity in. He is more naturally gifted in my opinion too. I see where you are coming from to a point though. Hazard can get better, but so can Mata.Mata will definitely improve United's offensive play...but you guys have serious midfield problems.Who's going to partner Carrick in midfield? Fellaini? Jones? the average Cleverley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC 171 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Why not? In the old system Mata was the best..and I repeat: the old system. Things haven't worked that well this season, although he should have had more minutes.I'm not convinced he can completely turn things around for United, but I wish him all the best.Really? There is more to it than a system change. Much more, in my opinion. You don't simply throw away a player of Mata's quality. You find a space for them. The last game I saw Mata play for Chelsea he was dragged off after doing nothing wrong for the entire game. It's all very strange.He's also never going to change our fortunes single handed. We know that. It's a damn good start though.He's a good player but not entirely sure United needed a CAM like him. I thought Moyes was looking at a CM, someone like Thiago, Kroos, Fabregas. Mata has never played central midfield here, always one of the attacking midfield spots. he outperformed Hazard for one season here but then again, it was Hazard's first one at Chelsea and in EnglandIt will be interesting to see how we line-up and play when all of our forwards are available. I think you should just admit it though - Mata is/was your best player. I really find it hard to see how Hazard can be classed as better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 i dare to say that hazard was allready better than mata by the end of last season.Hazard was our best player after coming back from the ball boy suspension - during which we won 0 games without him, highlighting his importance. Mata was fatigued and was barely scoring at the time. Eden was my choice for CFC POTY given how he also started the season, but Mata was too beast statistically to not win that.Anyway, however much i liked watching Mata here, Mourinho's team is doing well without him and hopefully that continues.And now no more crying about whether Mata is in the team or not (myself included), or cameras focusing on Mata when we score, which is good for everyone. The Skipper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC 171 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Only 1 season and it was hazard's first season, i dare to say that hazard was allready better than mata by the end of last season.Are you being serious by saying that mata is more natural gifted than hazard? Sounds like a joke to meI am very serious. Mata has a consistency about him that only the best naturally gifted players can sustain. Hazard not so much.Also Mata scored and assisted more than Hazard 2012/2013. I know it's not all about the stats, but they do give a good idea. Mata will definitely improve United's offensive play...but you guys have serious midfield problems.Who's going to partner Carrick in midfield? Fellaini? Jones? the average Cleverley? I think Fellaini obviously deserves a proper run in the team. He's been slated a lot for nothing to be honest. Is he a United player? Maybe not, but he can do a job and deserves the opportunity to prove a lot of people wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 This is a funny gif. Their loving this signing on redcafe. I still cant believe we sold Mata our two times player of the year to Man fkn Utd scum..Also was it 40 or 37 mil pounds ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Only 1 season and it was hazard's first season, i dare to say that hazard was allready better than mata by the end of last season.Are you being serious by saying that mata is more natural gifted than hazard? Sounds like a joke to meDon't bother with him. He's a man united fan. Trying to get him to say anything good about Hazard is simply impossible.Just take a quick look on the Eden Hazard thread at redcafe. Soo much butthurt. Being snubbed by 1 of the biggest talents in the world really hurt their fragile egos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I am very serious. Mata has a consistency about him that only the best naturally gifted players can sustain. Hazard not so much.Also Mata scored and assisted more than Hazard 2012/2013. I know it's not all about the stats, but they do give a good idea. Say whatever you want at the end of the day football is a sport, an activity based on athleticism. Hazard is far superior than Mata in terms of physical, Mata visions it, Hazard executes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC 171 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Say whatever you want at the end of the day football is a sport, an activity based on athleticism. Hazard is far superior than Mata in terms of physical, Mata visions it, Hazard executes it.Actually I'd say it's more about what you can do with a football. 11Drogba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Actually I'd say it's more about what you can do with a football.What you can do WITHOUT a football is equally important in modern footy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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