Romelu Lukaku

[Special Juan 28,100]

Whilst he wasn't exactly unreal yesterday he has a big heart and will fight, we have the exact opposite in Morata.

[Leif 6,006]

His face when he scored is why I wanted him gone. Absolutely ego driven, more than anyone I can think of.

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[MCM4PR3Z 411]

Imagine a team with Lukaku, Salah, Hazard and De Bruyne. A lot of defenders would absolutely sh*t their pants. It would be the best attacking force in the world of football.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOgFZfRVaww

[Milan 17,955]

20 minutes ago, MCM4PR3Z said:

Imagine a team with Lukaku, Salah, Hazard and De Bruyne. A lot of defenders would absolutely sh*t their pants. It would be the best attacking force in the world of football.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOgFZfRVaww

Don't do this

[Antonio8 736]

28 minutes ago, MCM4PR3Z said:

Imagine a team with Lukaku, Salah, Hazard and De Bruyne. A lot of defenders would absolutely sh*t their pants. It would be the best attacking force in the world of football.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOgFZfRVaww

thanks jose for this 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

The thing is, fight can make an average player above average. The fight he showed in that burst at the end is something Morata doesnt have in the locker.

[robsblubot 3,595]

1 hour ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

The thing is, fight can make an average player above average. The fight he showed in that burst at the end is something Morata doesnt have in the locker.

heh always thought fans overplayed "fight" and "desire", and something that can be mixed up with overall quality. Lukaku's not a donkey, a terrible player, so he has moments that his descent technique, in conjunction with superior physique, give him an edge; that makes him a good striker, not a great one.

Lukaku has one of the lowest work rate I've ever seen in a striker. When the football is not near him, he's not involved at all.

IMO Morata's issues are related more to his lack of physicality, than his desire That's the easiest (by far) weakness to correct in a player. So much so that we've seen it done hundreds of times before. Whether Morata has the drive to go through it (long hours at the gym), that's a different story. Morata has the technique and creativity that Lukaku will never have, so it makes sense to bet on Morata.

[DYC. 7,542]

5 minutes ago, Robguima said:

heh always thought fans overplayed "fight" and "desire", and something that can be mixed up with overall quality. Lukaku's not a donkey, a terrible player, so he has moments that his descent technique, in conjunction with superior physique, give him an edge; that makes him a good striker, not a great one.

Lukaku has one of the lowest work rate I've ever seen in a striker. When the football is not near him, he's not involved at all.

IMO Morata's issues are related more to his lack of physicality, than his desire That's the easiest (by far) weakness to correct in a player. So much so that we've seen it done hundreds of times before. Whether Morata has the drive to go through it (long hours at the gym), that's a different story. Morata has the technique and creativity that Lukaku will never have, so it makes sense to bet on Morata.

Seriously overplayed. 

[Jase 43,479]

12 minutes ago, Robguima said:

heh always thought fans overplayed "fight" and "desire"

 

6 minutes ago, DYC. said:

Seriously overplayed. 

Funny thing is, without them, we would never have won the Champions League in 2012.

[DYC. 7,542]

10 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Funny thing is, without them, we would never have won the Champions League in 2012.

Quality won Chelsea the majority of their trophies.

Keyword was overplayed. Fight and desire matters but it only gets you so far.

[Jase 43,479]

4 minutes ago, DYC. said:

Quality won Chelsea the majority of their trophies.

Keyword was overplayed. Fight and desire matters but it only gets you so far.

True but same applies the other way round too. You can have as much quality as you want but if you don't "marry" that with the fight and desire, you won't get far.

[DYC. 7,542]

1 minute ago, Jason said:

True but same applies the other way round too. You can have as much quality as you want but if you don't "marry" that with the fight and desire, you won't get far.

Is it really that hard to understand? His point was quality matters a lot more. Now if you disagree with that, fine, but I would completely disagree with that. No point arguing either.

[Jase 43,479]

5 minutes ago, DYC. said:

Is it really that hard to understand? His point was quality matters a lot more. Now if you disagree with that, fine, but I would completely disagree with that. No point arguing either.

Chill. No one is disagreeing with quality being important. All I'm saying it's just as important as having the fight, desire or whatever you want to call it. Our squad, for example, isn't the greatest but have some quality but have lost far too easily and badly at times to shit teams because the players couldn't give an arse.

[robsblubot 3,595]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

 

Funny thing is, without them, we would never have won the Champions League in 2012.

Even in the example given, fight and desire alone lost that game like many others before. Despite having good players in Mata, Lampard, and Cole.

Drogba's quality got the tie we needed.

It's not only how much more important quality is over desire, but how much more difficult it is to find quality. Top teams never EVER sign players who do not have quality/technique. Medium and smaller sides do sign players who are essentially just pure desire and work rate, but that's why their are smaller.

There is a lot of fight and desire in the lower leagues 

[Jase 43,479]

5 minutes ago, Robguima said:

Even in the example given, fight and desire alone lost that game like many others before. Despite having good players in Mata, Lampard, and Cole.

Drogba's quality got the tie we needed.

It's not only how much more important quality is over desire, but how much rarer is to find quality. Top teams never EVER sign players who do not have quality/technique. Medium and smaller sides do sign players who are essentially just pure desire and work rate, but that's why their are smaller.

There is a lot of fight and desire in the lower leagues 

You are right but at the same time, top teams won't sign quality players if they are lazy or have poor attitude in matches. Ozil is probably an example, which also explains why none of the big teams queued up to sign him like they did with Sanchez.