communicate 2,703 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I still think it was the wrong move. Ba simply isn't good enough and has contributed the square root of fuck all to our campaign, whilst Torres has been inconsistent and injury-prone. We needed another striker and Lukaku would have got plenty of minutes whilst playing and training alongside top quality players who might have actually improved his play and kept him in line off the pitch.At Everton he's faced almost zero competition for a starting spot and I'm not sure how closely related their football is to our's. It was a bad decision and to be honest I think we could've done with a striker who has 'always been known as a goalscorer', don't you?Nah if he stays he is going to be our 3th option, basically he is not going to play except for league cup and special circumstances. For young player, playing time is important. I have never seen player improved dramatically while stuck on the bench Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Since I last posted in this thread, Romelu Lukaku has scored 2 goals in 10 appearances in the Premier League (without counting his injury forced substitution away to Liverpool) having previously scored 7 goals in 8 Premier League appearances. So what we need to determine is whether his drop in goals is down to a drop in performance from Everton as a team or whether Romelu Lukaku has to take a large amount of, not quite blame, but acceptance for his own transformation into Fernando Torres.I have to concede that I am of the persuasion that a decent part of the reasoning for Romelu Lukaku's loss of form is down to Everton's loss in form over the last 2 or 3 months. In my opinion, Everton haven't played well throughout a match since we drew 1-1 against Arsenal at the Emirates and that came 8 Premier League matches ago on 8th December. In that time, Lukaku has scored one goal. Everton have been ravaged with injuries throughout the last couple of months (like some other clubs). Leighton Baines, Phil Jagielka, Sylvain Distin, Seamus Coleman, Gerard Deulofeu, Ross Barkley and much more recently Bryan Oviedo all missed numerous games in this period which will have affected the team as most of them are core players in the squad. Any team that is swapping and changing their team unwillingly are going to suffer.However, there are a lot of players who would step up in that sort of time (Kevin Mirallas in particular did this for us) but Lukaku just went inside a shell and the goals dried up. It wasn't the hardest run of Premier League matches in the world, he has failed to score against Manchester United, Arsenal (they're the excusable fixtures), Fulham, Swansea, Sunderland, Stoke, Norwich and West Brom. Perhaps you also have to take fitness and his stage of development into account. He is still young and has been used sparingly at Chelsea and was used fairly irregularly at West Brom despite his goal return, Due to lack of competition (which could also be a factor, though I don't think it is, he's a pretty self motivated guy), he has started 17 Premier League matches in a row before his injury against Liverpool. You only have to look at your own players recently such as Hazard and Willian who are suffering from fatigue and they have more experience in hand. Also, when you're scoring goals, your inadequacies are often ignored and vice-versa when you're not scoring. Despite the goals, he's always showed that he's a fair distance from being the footballer he wants to be, patience is probably the one thing he needs more of in terms of his career. Unsurprisingly, it's a mixture of a drop of form from the player and the team that have contributed to his lack of goals but if I'm being completely honest, it was the team that was making Lukaku look good this season rather than the other way around as the media would have had you believe with their "what was Jose thinking" headlines. Lukaku is young, that should be remembered and he needs less of the Drogba comparisons and the media fuelling his ego. This break should help him as well as competition from Traore and Naismith who is doing well.There's absolutely no way Lukaku is ready to lead Chelsea next season, nor is there much proof to say he'd be any better at it than Torres or Eto'o... yet.Thanks for making that report even though you probably already knew it isn't what most here want to read. We want to read that Lukaku will come back and solve all of our striker problems, although what you wrote is probably spot on, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 you're doing Everton a real disservice though. Everton are the 6th best side in England at the moment and and had more players on international duty in the last round of internationals than any other club in Europe.10 players on international duty - that's 2 more than Fulham. I'm just being honest. Everton are a great club and they play good football but looking at the type of environment Lukaku is playing in, you have to wonder who are the players putting their arms round his shoulder and telling him how to behave. The amount of times he's completed the full 90 is probably a little high as well, but that's because his competition was Jelavic and Naismith. Muzchap and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I don't read into when people believe Lukaku would be like Ba in getting bit-part matches. They are different players. Ba is a good striker but ultimately not good enough for a club like us. He is too slow and with the way Mourinho likes to play he does not suit the team and that is evident in most matches he has played for us. Torres and Eto'o are preferred because they have more pace and better work rate. If Lukaku was part of the squad this season I definitely reckon he would have got a lot of starts contrary to what others think. He is a better striker than Ba. Lukaku can do pretty much everything Ba can do but offers more and because of the inconsistencies of our strikers this season it is obvious to me that Lukaku would of end up having some run in the team and proving himself.As much as Everton are a good team, they are not Chelsea and I also don't read into the stats of him having 2 in 12 goals or so. I personally reckon he would get goals at us because ultimately we are a better team and eventually playing alongside great/greater players will show in the amount of goals he scores. Hazard is up there right with the most created chances in the PL and our strikers have fluffed many chances this season. Lukaku, no doubt to me would have taken some chances that our strikers have not managed to score in games this season.His goalscoring might have taken a bit of a dip recently when he has been playing but I don't think that gives any inclination to prove that he is not good enough to lead the line for us. Give him the chance then we can talk. robsblubot, The only place to be, robdog and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Williams 166 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 If the investment made is for a top 3 position, can a manager justify a 6th or 7th position? Stop! Youre going to make Moyes cry. robsblubot and CHOULO19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Nice to see he will be back fit for the weekend. Would like to see him get some confidence going into the summer and next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodIsBlue 291 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 If Romelu scorers more goal than any of our strikers (combined possibly) for the remainder of the season will he be ready then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 Glad to see he is back. Even though he didn't score much for a while, Everton were still winning with him up front. Since his injury, they've crashed down and even manutd is above them now. They need him drastically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Scored the winner for Everton. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 The fridge needed 20 minutes :-) the rest did him good imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 10 EPL goals that's as many as Torres and Eto'o have combined Beigl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beigl 1,387 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 10 EPL goals that's as many as Torres and Eto'o have combined And in much lesser games.. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Comes back from injury and scores a goal.#matchwinner Stingray, Las7 and xPetrCechx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Well, I guess he's back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Good lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Glad to see he is back. Even though he didn't score much for a while, Everton were still winning with him up front. Since his injury, they've crashed down and even manutd is above them now. They need him drasticallyAs I said, they need him and he delivers boom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 He delivers as a striker. Will be good to see if Eto'o can do to him what he did to Hazard (Eden claims it is Eto'o that pushes him so hard) zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 He scores goals ,,,thats what strikers should do ... how it doesnt matter ,,JUST SCORE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Bang! The Kraken is back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 How was his gial?? any link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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