Tomo 21,751 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Clarence Seedorf had tons of experience... Should we replace Ramires with him?Or is what a player does now more important than what they did?Eto'o's not in his 40's. He is still a decent player who has done ok with us so far,not amazing but not as bad as some suggest, ask Styles about the Eto'o situation,he explains it better than i do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I understand that, but also we have to think of the bigger picture aswell, if he say shows his inexperience in a CL semi final at the Allianz Arena and has a stinker with the world watching, he could suffer mentally with that at such a young age.The mental side is often underestimated in football, look at Scott Carson, was one of the best upcoming young keepers, thrown in for England's doe and die world cup qualifayer thinking he was ready, single handedly lost us the match and is now a championship goalkeeper than not PL club will touch with a bargepole.You're right... players need experience so they don't lose their heads in semi finals, get sent off and let the team down.With that in mind where would you like us to loan John Terry to?Lukaku is remarkably mature and grounded. I don't think he'll have any problem with the mental side of representing this club. didierforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Eto'o's not in his 40's. He is still a decent player who has done ok with us so far,not amazing but not as bad as some suggest, ask Styles about the Eto'o situation,he explains it better than i do.Eto'o looks like a 32 year old striker who has spent a couple of years in the Russian league. The brain is still sharp but his body looks a little behind right now. Mong630 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 You're right... players need experience so they don't lose their heads in semi finals, get sent off and let the team down.With that in mind where would you like us to loan John Terry to?Lukaku is remarkably mature and grounded. I don't think he'll have any problem with the mental side of representing this club.It's a lot different because Terry has already "made it", if that happened when he was in his early 20's/late teens then it might have ended a bit different.I am sure he is going to be a great player for us and it's easy to say throw him/Chala and the rest in because they will be great in the future, but Arsenal use to have that philosophy of "this team will be great in x years time" and were still waiting for it to bear fruit 8 years on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 It's a lot different because Terry has already "made it", if that happened when he was in his early 20's/late teens then it might have ended a bit different.I am sure he is going to be a great player for us and it's easy to say throw him/Chala and the rest in because they will be great in the future, but Arsenal use to have that philosophy of "this team will be great in x years time" and were still waiting for it to bear fruit 8 years on.John Terry made it after a dodgy start but we stuck by him and he grew. We seem reluctant to do that with Lukaku in the belief he won't struggle when he becomes a first team player for us.... He probably will however old he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carayip 15 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 In theory no, but in theory McEachran was our solution to our creativity problems in 10/11. Is it fair to ask a young lad from going to rotating with Shane Long at West Brom to having our expectation's in two of the biggest club competition's in the world on his shoulders? We don't ask him.... We pay him. It's his job. I genuinely believe he has the quality and attitude to survive and thrive. Pretty delusional to think that McEachran would have won us the CL and FA Cup as well in place of Frank Lampard or Juan Mata, no?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 John Terry made it after a dodgy start but we stuck by him and he grew. We seem reluctant to do that with Lukaku in the belief he won't struggle when he becomes a first team player for us.... He probably will however old he is.I can understand your point but at the same time, i don't believe we actually planned on loaning him, it was only when a top 6 club managed by a gaffer with a good youth track record came in,Jose changed his mind.Either way, it's been fun debating with you but i have to shoot out as im out on the piss, have a good day The only place to be and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 It's questionable whether he was ready to be the #1 striker but with the current options, there is a sense of regret in letting him leave The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Pretty delusional to think that McEachran would have won us the CL and FA Cup as well in place of Frank Lampard or Juan Mata, no?!Not talking about Josh. He's shown nothing as a professional as of yet and I don't think he'd have the mental strength to succeed being thrown in at the deep end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carayip 15 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Pretty delusional to think that McEachran would have won us the CL and FA Cup as well in place of Frank Lampard or Juan Mata, no?! Not talking about Josh. He's shown nothing as a professional as of yet and I don't think he'd have the mental strength to succeed being thrown in at the deep end. The same question could be asked about Lukaku re mental strength. Very different to perform at a pressure free club than a club expected to win every match, you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 He's being supplied by the likes of Barkley, Mirallas, Deulofeu, McCarthy etc. all very decent players, stop being so dramatic. It's not the proving of his goal scoring ability that he's going out on loan to Everton for. Everyone knows Lukaku scores goals, no one is disputing that, he's a naturally born goal scorer, everyone knows that. It's his general play that Lukaku has to improve, he needs to become a more complete striker, and you can't do that by getting minutes here and there at CFC, so retrospectively the Everton loan move is brilliant for his (and ours) future.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 The same question could be asked about Lukaku re mental strength. Very different to perform at a pressure free club than a club expected to win every match, you know.sure lukaku must be weak mentally and physically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoro 151 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 He still has the touch of an elephant. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Sidzeret 2,257 Posted October 5, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted October 5, 2013 Not sure ii's Lukaku or......Respect Stingray, xPetrCechx, Kieran. and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 He still has the touch of an elephant.Ivory coast N T are known as the Elephants ,,,one of their strikers wasnt bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Not sure ii's Lukaku or......Respect Sidzeret 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutro 1,026 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I always tought and still do that he's a limited player, but even with his limits he always seems to score against any team , and thats an enormous quality for a striker.The loan to everton is great for him and chelsea if you ask me, he will develop much faster by playing week in and out, gain loads of confidence and experience and thats great for us in the long end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Lescott is prob one of the worst defenders I've ever seen playing for a top side, Ben Haim being the absolute worst though. With that said, that was a nice move, combined with lots of acceleration. The finishing was good, but Hart should've done better.Lukaku scored a good goal and had a poor/decent performance. His first touch and off-the-ball movement were specially lacking. Opposition is everything when assessing a player.With Jelavic's poor form, it's very likely Lukaku will keep on getting minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 As you said, we wanted to loan Ba to arsenal. But they went for ozil, so giving them ba would have been stupidity of the highest level.We were now stuck with 4 strikers while playing only one striker, so lukaku's chances of playing slimmed down to 1/4. No other person wanted to loan Ba, so for lukaku's slim chances of surpassing benteke for the world cup, he needed to play more and not hope. From here, it was a logical option.I am very confident that lukaku also opted for this decision personally.So people should stop blasting the board for this.http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2013/10/5/4805186/romelu-lukaku-wanted-loan-chelsea-fc-everton"Look, let me be honest about this,I did not know if I would be playing for Chelsea so I asked the manager to let me leave. We spoke and I told him.""It’s unfair to criticize Mourinho for letting me go because it was my decision. He knows what he is doing. He has won so many titles and I have too much respect for him to wish anything but the best, but there comes a point where you must think about yourself to show everyone that you can shine and be one of the best strikers in the league.""I could have stayed and fought, but it was not about the competition. When you are a 20-year-old you need minutes. I lost my place in the national team because I did not play for a year with Chelsea.""I want that position back. I want to be in a top team and play. You only get better if you play so the best thing was to leave.""He’d called me into his office 10 days before the end of the window. I did not want to tell him what I wanted to do at that point, but he was very open and direct. I always wanted to work under him and even the time in pre-season he taught me lots I’m grateful for but I had to make a choice.And thats that. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goemaere 131 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2013/10/5/4805186/romelu-lukaku-wanted-loan-chelsea-fc-evertonAnd thats that.Only problem is, 2 days after his loan lukaku said on belgian television; Chelsea called me at 19Pm to tell me i'm going on loan again. The program was extra time if i remember correctly. In other words, the board made him say this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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