robdog 2,084 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Quality not great but it's all I could find:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xw5b29_wba2-1norw-spherachannel_sport#from=embediframeI don't care what these other fools call you...I think you are a Top Man!!! Up The Chels!!! Stingray, Kieran. and CHOULO19 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xw5cjf_w2-1n-www-fasthighlights-com_sport BleedsBlue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 His movement is so much better this year, as is the use of his body/his overall physique. His decision making/first touch is still a bit raw, but he's improving. He came across as a very humble guy in his MOTD interview saying that he sees the next 2 years as a crucial period in his development and he wants to continue working hard under managers like Steve Clark so that he can return to Chelsea and be the no.1 striker. He doesn't want to sit on the bench here, he wants to be the main man. Hope he stays at WBA and continues doing what he's doing. Kojo, Mufassir08, The only place to be and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 How is his first touch? I hope it has improved becuase during pre-season (and the chances he got last season) it was absolutly dreadful and I feel that will really be a dsiadvantage to him.His first touch is always going to be his weak point, that's just life, at his age he will struggle to turn that around.West Brom played to his strengths, Lukaku did what he's good at, being a poacher. They where trying to support him, so Lukaku was just staying up the pitch, though when he did get the ball he looked very good. He's actually quite a skillfull player, and his passing is pretty decent.He will be good for us in the future, every club needs it's goal scoring forward. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 His movement is so much better this year, as is the use of his body/his overall physique. His decision making/first touch is still a bit raw, but he's improving. He came across as a very humble guy in his MOTD interview saying that he sees the next 2 years as a crucial period in his development and he wants to continue working hard under managers like Steve Clark so that he can return to Chelsea and be the no.1 striker. He doesn't want to sit on the bench here, he wants to be the main man. Hope he stays at WBA and continues doing what he's doing.We can't bring him back, it's not fair on him. Plus he wont be ready for our team just yet, next season he might be able to fit in who knows.Though that's what Lukaku is, he's a goal scorer, in the Belgian League he wasn't an all round player he was a goal scoring striker, and he was very good at what he did. Slam Dunk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 We can't bring him back, it's not fair on him. Plus he wont be ready for our team just yet, next season he might be able to fit in who knows.Though that's what Lukaku is, he's a goal scorer, in the Belgian League he wasn't an all round player he was a goal scoring striker, and he was very good at what he did.Agreed, he's making good progress. If he can establish himself as first choice in the WBA team (I know Clark likes his rotation), he'll have surpassed my expectations of him. Saying that, his goal return in a (largely) sub-role has been good so far. He's settled it seems, no point in disrupting that and limiting his development. He's got time on his side.I still think he'll continue on loan next season, although you never know what can happen.I think his all round game is improving. Obviously his physicality means he's a focal point for the team but he was making some very intelligent runs today and has been doing so whenever i've seen him play this year - He needs to be even more clinical I feel, but that will come with time. I think he's going to become a very diverse player if he carries on. Kojo and Mufassir08 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 His first touch is always going to be his weak point, that's just life, at his age he will struggle to turn that around.West Brom played to his strengths, Lukaku did what he's good at, being a poacher. They where trying to support him, so Lukaku was just staying up the pitch, though when he did get the ball he looked very good. He's actually quite a skillfull player, and his passing is pretty decent.He will be good for us in the future, every club needs it's goal scoring forward.But if we get Falcao and he becomes a hit goal scoring wise then Lukaku will beccome a bit obselete until Falcao leaves (which may be for a few years), he is not going to wait that long to be Chelsea's main striker.If his first touch has not improved then I do fear for him. From what I have seen and the way he plays, his first touch and overall ability to control the ball wil prevent him (imo) of being able to performe at a top club trying to win trophies. I mean jut look at Trres and how everybody frwns apon the way he controls the ball, Lukaku will have the same issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 But if we get Falcao and he becomes a hit goal scoring wise then Lukaku will beccome a bit obselete until Falcao leaves (which may be for a few years), he is not going to wait that long to be Chelsea's main striker.If his first touch has not improved then I do fear for him. From what I have seen and the way he plays, his first touch and overall ability to control the ball wil prevent him (imo) of being able to performe at a top club trying to win trophies. I mean jut look at Trres and how everybody frwns apon the way he controls the ball, Lukaku will have the same issues.It's not that much of an issue, his first touch isn't actually that bad, yes he looked awful pre season but I've watched at least 4 full west brom games including the one today (well yesterday) and his first touch wasn't really a problem. He never really had to make any good touches like i stated however, but it's not all that bad. Lukaku is a passionate and consistent goal scorer, he will make it into the team believe me. Players like Demba Ba don't have a great first touch, however he's a lethal finisher and grabs at least 15 goals a season. Lukaku just isn't special with his touch that's all it is. But i think him being physical and being in the right place right time might be all what we need. Maybe he wont be our number one striker but i know for a fact he could be one useful one for us, i think he's worth it.I'm not to keen on getting Falcao though if I'm honest, he isn't a great team player and doesn't provide great work rate and seems to be a very average passer of the ball. Although he can be very expensive we should really go for Cavani as he can fit the role like Drogba did (obviously he's not the same as Drogba), however he can be that team player. Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Although he can be very expensive we should really go for Cavani as he can fit the role like Drogba did (obviously he's not the same as Drogba), however he can be that team player.But that role that Drogba played doesn't exist in the same way anymore and it won't in future if things go to plan. I love the progress he's making, but I think he's going to have to share that striker role or be our 'plan b', although a lot can change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 But that role that Drogba played doesn't exist in the same way anymore and it won't in future if things go to plan. I love the progress he's making, but I think he's going to have to share that striker role or be our 'plan b', although a lot can change.4-2-3-1 is our systemWith the Mazacar likely to be our new way of playing football wheather we like it or not, work rate is going to have to be placed somewhere, we are going to have a lot of defensive issues. We also need a more physical and animal upfront just like Drogba was, Cavani is exactly that, he's passionate.Thing is bring up Falcao again, may be going slighly off topic here but I'll get back onto the point, if Falcao flops here or finds it hard, he will do what Torres did. He will go into his shell because he can't do anything else, I KNOW for a fact Cavani would chase that fucking ball down, and he would be coming back to win it regardless of what happens, he wont give up. That's his mentallity, we can't just have a team full of goal poachers can we?, look at United with there four strikers, Welbeck and Rooney are full of work rate, Van Persie is very good at holding the ball up and an extremely good finisher. Hernandez is the complete goal poacher and the right place right time person.We can't just have Falcao and think everythings going to be all right cause it wont, our team needs a leader and a fighter up there right now, like Suarez is with Liverpool, the main man. At the moment we are lacking that main man in attack, Cavani is the right person and he could handle playing with quality with the likes of Lavezzi who he linked up with very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 4-2-3-1 is our systemWith the Mazacar likely to be our new way of playing football wheather we like it or not, work rate is going to have to be placed somewhere, we are going to have a lot of defensive issues. We also need a more physical and animal upfront just like Drogba was, Cavani is exactly that, he's passionate.Thing is bring up Falcao again, may be going slighly off topic here but I'll get back onto the point, if Falcao flops here or finds it hard, he will do what Torres did. He will go into his shell because he can't do anything else, I KNOW for a fact Cavani would chase that fucking ball down, and he would be coming back to win it regardless of what happens, he wont give up. That's his mentallity, we can't just have a team full of goal poachers can we?, look at United with there four strikers, Welbeck and Rooney are full of work rate, Van Persie is very good at holding the ball up and an extremely good finisher. Hernandez is the complete goal poacher and the right place right time person.We can't just have Falcao and think everythings going to be all right cause it wont, our team needs a leader and a fighter up there right now, like Suarez is with Liverpool, the main man. At the moment we are lacking that main man in attack, Cavani is the right person and he could handle playing with quality with the likes of Lavezzi who he linked up with very well.I've addressed this point in the other thread but the conclusion is the same - one year ago I would've agreed that Cavani was the right guy but looking to the future I think Falcao is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 are people here surprised his movement and finish etc are getting better? Heres a news flash for you: The more you play, the better and more used to it you get; compared to sitting on the bench.And people were writing off Danny because he had a bad finishing touch when he played as CF. Go figure...PS: Keep him loaned out untill the summer. Atholy and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 But if we get Falcao and he becomes a hit goal scoring wise then Lukaku will beccome a bit obselete until Falcao leaves (which may be for a few years), he is not going to wait that long to be Chelsea's main striker.We won't play 1 up top for ever, if they both are on top of their game (if we get Falcao that is) then the manager will try and form a partnership out of them.Also Lukaku isn't Torres, he is prepared to do what it takes to earn the number 1 spot and if that means fighting Falcao then he will relish the challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumps 284 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Romelu has said on Facebook and Twitter that he does not want to return to Chelsea in January and is happy to stay at WB:"I’d like to stay here for the rest of the season and there’s no question about that !!!"fair enough, but not sure saying it publically like that was the best thing!I look forward to seeing who we buy in Jan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 We won't play 1 up top for ever, if they both are on top of their game (if we get Falcao that is) then the manager will try and form a partnership out of them.Also Lukaku isn't Torres, he is prepared to do what it takes to earn the number 1 spot and if that means fighting Falcao then he will relish the challenge.From the way he kept giving interviews in the summer about how his "development" has been stagnanted by Chelsea (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/339875/Romelu-Lukaku-s-parting-shot-at-Chelsea - and he did this several times from, about May, someeting getting to the point of irritaton.) and th fact that most top clubs employ a system with one striker he i doubt he will want to keep being sent on loan or playing second fiddle to Falcao or another striker if they become a hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic! 301 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Long gets more minutes but is more useful for the team. But give Lukaku the minutes both Long and Torres have had, he will score more goals. But he'll also frustrate the hell out of you.Everybody was moaning a bit at Lukaku during the WBA game against Norwich (lack of work rate, always asking the ball, etc). But then he heads home the winner just before the end of the game and everybody shuts up. That's Lukaku.That said, he also have played games were he was very good at linking up play. But that's mostly when he comes on as a sub and just plays with the tired defenders like they don't exist. dumps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumps 284 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Long gets more minutes but is more useful for the team. But give Lukaku the minutes both Long and Torres have had, he will score more goals. But he'll also frustrate the hell out of you.Everybody was moaning a bit at Lukaku during the WBA game against Norwich (lack of work rate, always asking the ball, etc). But then he heads home the winner just before the end of the game and everybody shuts up. That's Lukaku.That said, he also have played games were he was very good at linking up play. But that's mostly when he comes on as a sub and just plays with the tired defenders like they don't exist.I agree. I watched the majority of the game yesterday and didn't think he played as well as he has done. It was one of his worse games for WBA. However he did make the odd run, he did provide some crosses, and he was in space sometimes with no delivery. BUT it was not a good performance. Important well executed header though.but that is what you'd expect from a 19 year old. I think overall so far on his loan he has done exceptionally well. I look forward to him being part of our team in the future. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Lukaku want to stay next season on loan until 2014 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-brom-2-1-norwich-loan-1504209I guess that Chelsea wanted him back but as 3th option at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I think 2 years on loan will be best for lukaku and thankfully romelu agree's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Lukaku will never lead our team. He does not have the talent to do so...He will become a good second option, never world class!We definetly overpayed for him, let him stay on loan until 2014, best for both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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