johnnythefirst 1,076 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I've never seen a goalkeeper so fired up to come and deal with crosses, most keepers I train are usually shit scared and won't leave their six yard box, and when they do it's never to try and catch a ball. That being said, he is 6'6" and I guess it's a lot easier when you've got such a high ape index with arms the size of his! I think Oliver Kahn had the highest ape index of them all!Don't know why. ^^ Atholy and Peppi85 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 high ape indexWhat is Bale's? CHOULO19 and The Chels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 What is Bale's? Genuinely LOLed at that! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Thibaut's dad was taken to hospital on christmas. There was a problem with his blood vessels, so he was taken to the intensive care. The problem is now under control and he is expected to go home on monday. zolayes, yuvala and iseah100 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Racking up the clean sheets now. Very impressive Stingray and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 What is Bale's? same level as his father Martin Keown a little lower than his uncle Peter Reid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Hey, I'm new on this forum, but some people will know me from another Chelseaforum where I have been posting for years.Courtois is the best goalkeeper in the world, no doubt about that. His biggest disadvantage is that he does everything in a very natural way, he makes the most difficult things look very easy. That is why people always will vote for a spectacular goalkeeper like Neuer, and not for a calm and collected guy like Courtois. Courtois also has the disadvantage of his age, because a lot of people believe that a 22 year old can never be the best goalkeeper. And Germany has won the World Cup ofcourse.But when you look purely at the skills of both goalkeepers, Courtois is better. Too bad that most people can't see that. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Courtois is the best goalkeeper in the world, no doubt about that. Pretty clear that there's plenty of doubt about that! You can certainly make a case for him as the best keeper in the world and there is no doubt that he is up there with the best in the world, but saying that he is the best is not fact but an opinion and one that is much less popular than the one that argues that Neuer is the best in the world. BlueLion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Pretty clear that there's plenty of doubt about that! You can certainly make a case for him as the best keeper in the world and there is no doubt that he is up there with the best in the world, but saying that he is the best is not fact but an opinion and one that is much less popular than the one that argues that Neuer is the best in the world. agree ,, I think it is safer to claim he is probably in the best five in the world, Some would claim he isnt even the best in the PLor even the best at Chelsea CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Ofcourse it's an opinion, like it's an opinion that he is only top 5. I think that's very insulting for him, because top 5 means that he probably isn't top 3. While everybody worldwide puts him in their top 3 of goalkeepers. Maybe the FIFA doesn't, but they still think that Barthez is the best goalkeeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Hey, I'm new on this forum, but some people will know me from another Chelseaforum where I have been posting for years.Courtois is the best goalkeeper in the world, no doubt about that. His biggest disadvantage is that he does everything in a very natural way, he makes the most difficult things look very easy. That is why people always will vote for a spectacular goalkeeper like Neuer, and not for a calm and collected guy like Courtois. Courtois also has the disadvantage of his age, because a lot of people believe that a 22 year old can never be the best goalkeeper. And Germany has won the World Cup ofcourse.But when you look purely at the skills of both goalkeepers, Courtois is better. Too bad that most people can't see that.He's not even the best goalkeeper in the premier league nevermind the world.Nueur and De gea are ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Hey, I'm new on this forum, but some people will know me from another Chelseaforum where I have been posting for years.Courtois is the best goalkeeper in the world, no doubt about that. His biggest disadvantage is that he does everything in a very natural way, he makes the most difficult things look very easy. That is why people always will vote for a spectacular goalkeeper like Neuer, and not for a calm and collected guy like Courtois. Courtois also has the disadvantage of his age, because a lot of people believe that a 22 year old can never be the best goalkeeper. And Germany has won the World Cup ofcourse.But when you look purely at the skills of both goalkeepers, Courtois is better. Too bad that most people can't see that. What you are essentially saying is that people think Neuer is better because he's older, has won the World Cup, is insane and makes spectacular saves.The reason why people think Neuer is better is because he is the best goalkeeper in world football, both statistically and ability wise. There's no shame in being second-best to Neuer, who will be remembered along with Iker, Buffon, Kahn, Cech and van der Sar as one of the best of the modern era, and he'll be remembered in 50 years for helping to revolutionise the position of goalkeeper, in essence he has turned the goalkeeper into a fifth defender, a footballer. You say Courtois is disadvantaged because of his age - quite the contrary. He is behind Neuer at the minute, but his age means he has years left to grow and improve. I believe in a couple of years he'll surpass Neuer, like he arguably already has with Cech and Buffon. But right now, you just have to accept he is behind Neuer, the same way other Chelsea fans have finally accepted he's surpassed Cech, hence why he is starting rather than Petr. He's certainly in the top three worldwide. And far better than de Gea. de Gea looks fantastic because he makes fabulous camera saves. Admittedly he is a good goalkeeper, but he's made to look better by some shoddy shooting (think of the Liverpool 3-0 and the Arsenal 2-1, if those teams had Costaesque finishers he'd have shipped four or five goals in these games based on the number of chances). He's made some terrific saves and arguably is the sole reason United are third. But with the amount of saves he has to make because of how shockingly shit United's defence is, he is made to look awesome.Let's not forget de Gea is the guy who shipped four goals to Milton Keynes Dons. As far as Courtois vs de Gea is concerned, this is no contest. When it comes to Courtois-Neuer, we have to accept that Thibaut still has some catching up to do. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Ofcourse it's an opinion, like it's an opinion that he is only top 5. I think that's very insulting for him, because top 5 means that he probably isn't top 3. While everybody worldwide puts him in their top 3 of goalkeepers. Maybe the FIFA doesn't, but they still think that Barthez is the best goalkeeper.dont make such sweeping statements .. such as EVERYBODY WORLD WIDE ,,, No one here is insulting Courtois so relax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Ofcourse it's an opinion, like it's an opinion that he is only top 5. I think that's very insulting for him, because top 5 means that he probably isn't top 3. While everybody worldwide puts him in their top 3 of goalkeepers. Maybe the FIFA doesn't, but they still think that Barthez is the best goalkeeper.Yes, but I was just pointing out the difference between "I think that..." and "There is no doubt that....".And you do realize that the top 5 includes the top 3, right? Saying that someone is top 5 in the world does not necessarily mean that he is below the top 3, it could well mean that there are a few that are very close to each other's levels and you do not want to put them in any specific ranking. Finally, saying someone is top 5 in the world is an insult to him? Bloody hell, dude! zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 LOL having the luxury of debating whether your GK is no1 or no3 in the world :clown: look across town Liverpool having 2 ''world class' GK and see how lucky we are. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 LOL having the luxury of debating whether your GK is no1 or no3 in the world :clown: look across town Liverpool having 2 ''world class' GK and see how lucky we are.you mean which of our two ,,,, and Mark must be in top 3 3rd choice keepers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 He's not even the best goalkeeper in the premier league nevermind the world.Nueur and De gea are ahead of him.What makes DDG better? I'd like to hear your reasoning. I realise he's one of the reasons why ManU are where they are in the league, but that doesn't make him the better keeper if the other keeper has been virtually flawless albeit less spectacular.Neuer fair enough BlueLion., The Skipper, RoyalBlues and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I certainly accept people who think Neuer is better than Courtois, but most people worldwide think Neuer is better because of wrong reasons. They think Neuer is the better one, because he is more spectacular, because Courtois is too young for them, and because Neuer has won the World Cup. While all 3 of those reasons have nothing to do about how good a goalkeeper is. I think that is a pity for Courtois.And statistics are bs, certainly for goalkeepers. If you bring up statistics, DDG will always look better than Courtois.For Example:Man Utd with DDG:- Gets 117 chances on goal against them- DDG saves 89 of them.- Man Utd received 28 goals against.- DDG has a save percentage of 76%The same Man Utd, the same games, with Courtois:- Gets 77 chances on goal against them- Courtois saves 55 of them.- Man Utd received 22 goals against.- Courtois has a save percentage of 72%Statistics show that DDG is the better one, and people will also believe that DDG is the better one. While this a very realistic example of the possible reality now imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) I don't blame him for the goal yesterday. Edited December 30, 2014 by RoyalBlues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Not sure why the commentator said the keeper should of done better before I knew what happened Mane put it in the net he took it so early. Can't fault him, JT assumed we would win the initial header and usually Dave is closer to him however Luis was further up the field and had no chance of getting back. One of those things BlueLion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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