Popular Post! stroey 2,525 Posted August 17, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted August 17, 2014 So I'm the only one on here that genuinely believes Cech is superior to Courtois and should remain as no 1?Am I missing something here, Only 2 goalkeepers are superior to cech at this point i,e Neuer and De gea and the latter is even debatable. It's a shame how quickly opinions have turned and how eager people are to crown Thibaut as the numero uno even though he's done absolutely nothing yet to earn it.De Gea?! No ZOS, Chelsea?, iseah100 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I can understand the argument for Cech but nothing to earn it? Come on, if we didn't own him then it would probably have took a Buffon like fee to get him outof Leti.What has he done to earn the first spot ahead of Cech? performance wise, cech has always been better than him and premier league proven. CMS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 So I'm the only one on here that genuinely believes Cech is superior to Courtois and should remain as no 1?Am I missing something here, Only 2 goalkeepers are superior to cech at this point i,e Neuer and De gea and the latter is even debatable. It's a shame how quickly opinions have turned and how eager people are to crown Thibaut as the numero uno even though he's done absolutely nothing yet to earn it.Yes and so is Cech from crosses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 What has he done to earn the first spot ahead of Cech? performance wise, cech has always been better than him and premier league proven.Ten years ago the same argument was being made re Cech and Cudicini, i used the BBC forum back then and when it was revealed Cech was starting vs United the place was like feeding time in the zoo. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Ten years ago the same argument was being made re Cech and Cudicini, i used the BBC forum back then and when it was revealed Cech was starting vs United the place was like feeding time in the zoo.So because it worked out perfectly 10 years ago means history will repeat itself again? only if football was that predictable.anyway let's wait and see but from what I have seen of Courtois since his last season at genk to this point I remain unconvinced and underwhelmed. Cech remains Chelsea undisputed no1 goalkeeper in my eye until Courtois is able to prove otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 De Gea?! NoOfcourse Thibaut "parry shots back into dangerous zone" Courtois is better. burrogol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Ofcourse Thibaut "parry shots back into dangerous area" Courtois is better.Well you can point out a fault in every player/keeper's game. Cech is lost on so many corners. Courtois has a tendency to not push the ball wide enough - but i'd bet on a young player improving than a vet. like Cech.Your last few posts make Courtois sound like a vastly inferior GK, when he's actually widely regarded as one of the best in the world.Whatever though, no matter what Mourinho does, Chelsea will have a great GK. It's just a matter of short term vs long term now. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS 382 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I don't like it one bit. This guy comes in and acts like a petulant child arrogant prick and gets what he wants without doing a damn thing to earn it in return. He was ready to dump us for Madrid for a minute there. Watch what happens when his renewal comes up in four years or so, if he signs this extension. Bad precedence if you ask me. I feel bad for Petr. He has bled, gotten knocked out almost died and busted his whole mouth lips and jaw for the club and this is how we repay him? I'm pissed. i really hope he stays. If he leaves we are back to square one. Should this brat get injured, we are back to Schwarzer again, just like last year. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Ofcourse Thibaut "parry shots back into dangerous zone" Courtois is better.the pessimism on these boards is unrealI don't like it one bit. This guy comes in and acts like a petulant child arrogant prick and gets what he wants without doing a damn thing to earn it in return. He was ready to dump us for Madrid for a minute there. Watch what happens when his renewal comes up in four years or so, if he signs this extension. Bad precedence if you ask me. I feel bad for Petr. He has bled, gotten knocked out almost died and busted his whole mouth lips and jaw for the club and this is how we repay him? I'm pissed. i really hope he stays. If he leaves we are back to square one. Should this brat get injured, we are back to Schwarzer again, just like last year.except... he has proven himself and earned the right to be our number one.i would complain as well if i was as good as he was and i didnt get starts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted August 18, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted August 18, 2014 I don't like it . This guy comes in and acts like a petulant child arrogant prick and gets what he wants without doing a damn thing to earn it in return. He was ready to dump us for Madrid for a minute there. Watch what happens when his renewal comes up in four years or so, if he signs this extension. Bad precedence if you ask me. I feel bad for Petr. He has bled, gotten knocked out almost died and busted his whole mouth lips and jaw for the club and this is how we repay him? I'm pissed. i really hope he stays. If he leaves we are back to square one. Should this brat get injured, we are back to Schwarzer again, just like last year.The club really cannot win can they?Let players get old and stagnate (like Malouda, Anelka, Essien) we are too sentimental and succumbing to player power, act in advance in replacing a player and we're cunts disrespecting players.It seems like so many are happy to constantly contradict themselves for the sake of having a whine. burrogol, lucio, Ainsley Harriott and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS 382 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 The club really cannot win can they?Let players get old and stagnate (like Malouda, Anelka, Essien) we are too sentimental and succumbing to player power, act in advance in replacing a player and we're cunts disrespecting players.It seems like so many are happy to constantly contradict themselves for the sake of having a whine.Petr is old and stagnated? Joke of the day. What happened to coming and earning your chance on merit? The joke is people writing and thinking they know what they are talking about. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I don't like it one bit. This guy comes in and acts like a petulant child arrogant prick and gets what he wants without doing a damn thing to earn it in return. He was ready to dump us for Madrid for a minute there. Watch what happens when his renewal comes up in four years or so, if he signs this extension. Bad precedence if you ask me. I feel bad for Petr. He has bled, gotten knocked out almost died and busted his whole mouth lips and jaw for the club and this is how we repay him? I'm pissed. i really hope he stays. If he leaves we are back to square one. Should this brat get injured, we are back to Schwarzer again, just like last year.People keep going on about this "not earning it" shit. He did all he could at Atletico to be in the conversation with a great GK like Cech.GK is not like other positions where he can share minutes with Cech and we see who's better. He either starts, or he wouldn't be back here when other top clubs wanted him. LDN Blue and Belgiannutt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS 382 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 the pessimism on these boards is unrealexcept... he has proven himself and earned the right to be our number one.i would complain as well if i was as good as he was and i didnt get startsWhere in La Liga. Is that we play? How many times have we seen top players in other leagues come to the EPL and fail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS 382 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 People keep going on about this "not earning it" shit. He did all he could at Atletico to be in the conversation with a great GK like Cech.GK is not like other positions where he can share minutes with Cech and we see who's better. He either starts, or he wouldn't be back here when other top clubs wanted him.So because you are a top dog in the MLS means you will be top brass in the EPL? Football in not mathematics, where if a=b and b=c, then a=c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Petr is old and stagnated? Joke of the day. What happened to coming and earning your chance on merit? The joke is people writing and thinking they know what they are talking about.So he has to come here, after all he did in Spain, and accept sitting on the bench cause Cech is a legend? That doesn't sound fair to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I don't like it one bit. This guy comes in and acts like a petulant child arrogant prick and gets what he wants without doing a damn thing to earn it in return. He was ready to dump us for Madrid for a minute there. Watch what happens when his renewal comes up in four years or so, if he signs this extension. Bad precedence if you ask me. I feel bad for Petr. He has bled, gotten knocked out almost died and busted his whole mouth lips and jaw for the club and this is how we repay him? I'm pissed. i really hope he stays. If he leaves we are back to square one. Should this brat get injured, we are back to Schwarzer again, just like last year.I can't find any arrogant words Courtois has said in an interview that directly discredit Cech. As far as I could remember, the arrogant image was built from his agent quotes, Wilmots quotes and his comments about Mignolet. In his latest interview I found he has some respect for Cech. The one whom I think is more fitted your description "This guy comes in and acts like a petulant child arrogant prick and gets what he wants without doing a damn thing to earn it in return" is Lukaku Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Where in La Liga. Is that we play? How many times have we seen top players in other leagues come to the EPL and fail?Okay, then what about the Champions League? He was great throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 So because you are a top dog in the MLS means you will be top brass in the EPL? Football in not mathematics, where if a=b and b=c, then a=c.Thing is he isn't coming from some vastly inferior league. That was the case when he was signed from Genk, so he was sent on loan to prove himself and he has done this. Like Tomo said, this is pretty similar to when Cech joined Chelsea and displaced Cudicini. Mourinho could have easily gone with the more PL proven GK, but instead he gave Cech a chance and that has worked out wonderfully.Courtois might/might not turn out to be the same, but him sitting on the bench will achieve nothing but force him out prematurely. He will get the chance to prove he's good enough to replace Cech for years to come. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Petr is old and stagnated? Joke of the day. What happened to coming and earning your chance on merit? The joke is people writing and thinking they know what they are talking about.Anelka, Malouda and Lamps weren't in 2008, but we should have still acted in advance and looked at long term replacements.As for this earned thing, were you also kicking off in 2004 when Petr replaced Carlo? hjperdeath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 So because it worked out perfectly 10 years ago means history will repeat itself again? only if football was that predictable.anyway let's wait and see but from what I have seen of Courtois since his last season at genk to this point I remain unconvinced and underwhelmed. Cech remains Chelsea undisputed no1 goalkeeper in my eye until Courtois is able to prove otherwise.if we start petr over courtois, we risk losing him permanently. not only is the difference between chec and courtois not worth losing courtois; many would argue courtois is better than chec and is the 2nd best gk in the world Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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