Gilvorak 3,734 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 He's actually a supernice guy, but hey, you made a 'controversial' comment, good on you.Yeah allegedly fucking your teammates GF behind his back and those comments about Mignolet are something a "super nice guy" would do. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 That is what the best players in the world do, they don't sit down and accept it.Check out some of his point blank saves this season: Is this suppose to be impressive?Most of his saves are long range shots that any keeper at the top level should be making and it's baffling that he still hasn't learned how to parry or punch shots out of danger zone/area which was his major weakness from his Genk days. I still maintain that he's vastly overrated just like Oscar. Cech's performance in our 2012 champions league alone is far better than the youtube compilation of his saves this season and youtube compilations are suppose to make a player look great.Then again I have been spoilt with some fantastic goalkeeping performances this season from the likes of De gea,Marshall,Lloris,Mignolet,Szczesny and Cech that most of Courtoius saves looks extremely underwhelming to me in the many games I have seen of him at AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 "It's not show friends it's show business" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Yeah allegedly fucking your teammates GF behind his back and those comments about Mignolet are something a "super nice guy" would do.At 19yo you get all the p*ssy you can get man.KDB has forgiven him, I'm sure you can tooedit: oh wait, it happened last year.. the cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 You don't survive in this world by being a 'nice guy', Mata is as nice as you can get and we just effortlessly fucked him off. Football is all a business and like all business, the club will make the decision that will be the best in the long term. Sometime it means upsetting the old orders, we have to accept it and move on. The only reason anyone would want to keep Cech over Courtois atm is out of laugh for his contributions which is nothing wrong, but it is clearly clouding their judgements. Courtois is atm A FAR BETTER PLAYER THAN CECH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I still think he's massively overrated by the way. He's still a product of Simeone's defensive schemes and Atleti's deep defensive line and high pressing system in my eyes. I'd like to see how he'd fare in a more expansive team where he's forced to come off his line more and is forced to save more shots.Special is Cech in Euro 04 - head injury. Or that legendary 2012 CL campaign. Yet to see anything like that from Courtois. lionsden 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! LukakutoStamford 779 Posted May 21, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 21, 2014 Is this suppose to be impressive?Most of his saves are long range shots that any keeper at the top level should be making and it's baffling that he still hasn't learned how to parry or punch shots out of danger zone/area which was his major weakness from his Genk days. I still maintain that he's vastly overrated just like Oscar. Cech's performance in our 2012 champions league alone is far better than the youtube compilation of his saves this season and youtube compilations are suppose to make a player look great.He doesn't need YouTube to make him look great. His trophies and 100 clean sheets by age 21 do all the talking. Oh but hey I'm must be defending Courtois because I'm Belgian. Nevermind the non-Belgians calling him the best keeper in the world. Cech is a legend but why would anyone keep him for 5 when you can get a GK at 22 who is top 5 in the world who probably 15 more years and hasn't reached his prime. Stingray, MrBlueGuy, seanptmiller and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Yeah allegedly fucking your teammates GF behind his back and those comments about Mignolet are something a "super nice guy" would do.You're so hypocritical. You always have a go at people who say anything negative about Torres but when it comes to other players you seem to think it's okay to do exactly that? Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 You're so hypocritical. You always have a go at people who say anything negative about Torres but when it comes to other players you seem to think it's okay to do exactly that?He has been mad at almost everyone at Chelsea ever since Mata left, can't blame him for feeling too attached to a player kellzfresh and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 He doesn't need YouTube to make him look great. His trophies and 100 clean sheets by age 21 do all the talking.Oh but hey I'm must be defending Courtois because I'm Belgian. Nevermind the non-Belgians calling him the best keeper in the world.Cech is a legend but why would anyone keep him for 5 when you can get a GK at 22 who is top 5 in the world who probably 15 more years and hasn't reached his prime.And we have gone over the main reason for his clean sheet record plenty of times already. Atletico madrid have the best defensive structure in the world and statistically do not give away many chances to the opposition as their defence is literally unbreakable. most of Courtois's saves are routine saves that decent goalkeepers at the top level make week in week out. I can only think of very very few saves that I thought to my self "wow, he has no right saving that" since he joined AM.Mignolet is Belgian too and I have seen him make some outright ridiculous saves plenty of times this season. I give props where and when it's due. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 That is what the best players in the world do, they don't sit down and accept it.But he's making assumptions and demands before he even knows what's going on. He's preparing for the CL final and he's talking about he's not gonna be happy if he goes back and Cech is there. He has to earn his stripes at Chelsea and it's disrespectful to make assumptions. You have a point, and I'd agree with you if he played literally ANY other position, but I think keepers are an exception.Maybe agree to disagree for us.. Like I said, he may have had a point but I just think he must realise that he can't speak out like this. To almost demand things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,926 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 I still think he's massively overrated by the way. He's still a product of Simeone's defensive schemes and Atleti's deep defensive line and high pressing system in my eyes. I'd like to see how he'd fare in a more expansive team where he's forced to come off his line more and is forced to save more shots.Special is Cech in Euro 04 - head injury. Or that legendary 2012 CL campaign. Yet to see anything like that from Courtois.If he's made to look great in a defensive setup there at Atleti why would he not look just as good or better in another defensively great side like ourselves? jeronimo, José1893 and The Skipper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 He has to come back and he has to learn to keep his mouth shut. These young Belgian players have quite the mouth on em. LDN Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 But he's making assumptions and demands before he even knows what's going on. He's preparing for the CL final and he's talking about he's not gonna be happy if he goes back and Cech is there. He has to earn his stripes at Chelsea and it's disrespectful to make assumptions.Lukaku was willing to earn it as well in 11-12. Result is him being used not even 10 times and now he is an outcast. He is very clever, he knows that if he wants to 'earn it' he will have to wait for Cech to fuck up to get in and why should he? When Atletico and others are willing to pay top money for him and they are better than us atm. I doubt he is making assumptions, he already said he will sit down and talk to the club after the final so we will know by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 His words to BBC were an absolute disgrace.De Gea was really good too for Atletico de Madrid, he doesn't seem that good in Manchester.We have a dozen of players that like to speak a lot...Mainly players that are not that good or gave nothing to the club,It's time to grow up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The only place to be 11,313 Posted May 21, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 21, 2014 His words to BBC were an absolute disgrace.De Gea was really good too for Atletico de Madrid, he doesn't seem that good in Manchester.We have a dozen of players that like to speak a lot...Mainly players that are not that good or gave nothing to the club,It's time to grow up.Best goalkeeper in the Premier League last season.The argument about Courtois benefitting from our defence could quite easily have been made about Cech in his time here. Fortunately Courtois will come into another team with a strong defence next season.If he had been here this season then he may well have already claimed the shirt because Cech was pretty ordinary at times.Am I the only person who sees nothing wrong with what he's said? Mufassir08, Jype, Mr_President and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 And we have gone over the main reason for his clean sheet record plenty of times already. Atletico madrid have the best defensive structure in the world and statistically do not give away many chances to the opposition as their defence is literally unbreakable. most of Courtois's saves are routine saves that decent goalkeepers at the top level make week in week out. I can only think of very very few saves that I thought to my self "wow, he has no right saving that" since he joined AM.Mignolet is Belgian too and I have seen him make some outright ridiculous saves plenty of times this season. I give props where and when it's due.And Chelsea's defensive record is terrible?Let me guess Belgium had the best defensive record in World Cup Qualifying because they had the best defense and Courtois just made routine saves. Or Genk had the best defense in the Belgian League etc. Only so many teams can have have the best defensive set up. Maybe he's just been lucky each time....Perhaps he doesn't need to make ridiculous saves all the time because his positioning is excellent.Nobody has suggested that Atletico doesn't have a good defense, but giving Courtois no credit is really asinine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 His words to BBC were an absolute disgrace.De Gea was really good too for Atletico de Madrid, he doesn't seem that good in Manchester.We have a dozen of players that like to speak a lot...Mainly players that are not that good or gave nothing to the club,It's time to grow up.He has been every bit as good if not more at Manchester. after his first few months in England where he made a few mistakes and the whole country blew it out of proportion, he's come in leaps and bounds and is without a doubt the best goalkeeper in England. Everytime I see false or mythical statements, I always feel oblige to respond even if it means defending players or club that aren't my cup of tea. johnnythefirst 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Pizy 18,926 Posted May 21, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted May 21, 2014 Best goalkeeper in the Premier League last season.The argument about Courtois benefitting from our defence could quite easily have been made about Cech in his time here. Fortunately Courtois will come into another team with a strong defence next season.If he had been here this season then he may well have already claimed the shirt because Cech was pretty ordinary at times.Am I the only person who sees nothing wrong with what he's said?Nope, you're not alone. What he said is 100% true. As he said, both far too good to coexist or be cup players. SinineUltra, MrBlueGuy, Eden2020 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 He has been every bit as good if not more at Manchester. after his first few months in England where he made a few mistakes and the whole country blew it out of proportion, he's come in leaps and bounds and is without a doubt the best goalkeeper in England. Everytime I see false or mythical statements, I always feel oblige to respond even if it means defending players or club that aren't my cup of tea.Yes. More than 40 goals per season. Really great,He is the best GK in England in his dreams.If it wasn't for De Gea right now Man United would be relegated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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