5354 204 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I don't think the foreign lot, Drogba's mob, were involved. IMO it was entirely the English crew, minus John Terry. But Drogba et al are nearly as bad as them, they're enablers, they stand by and watch it happen and never put a stop to it. The one ray of light from this is that the younger/new players steered well clear of it. Torres, Mata, Romeu, Ramires, David Luiz, Lukaku, even Kalou, etc. would not have gotten involved in this shit and had they had more influence would surely have nipped it in the bud. Agree.It all started with Lampard being dropped. Then the team started losing. Then A. Cole was dropped for Napoli match... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Agree.It all started with Lampard being dropped. Then the team started losing. Then A. Cole was dropped for Napoli match...I would like that post, but I'm over the limit for today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mceachran 109 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Just a thought (because I read it somewhere and it got me thinking). Is it really that bad if we have a bad season? Wouldn't it be better to have avb (or any other coach) settle in a create a long-term relationship with the club? Maybe the era proves this irrelevant, but I seem to notice that the first few seasons of Sir Alex Ferguson over an Man U included some absolute dreadful ones. I'm not saying avb was great for chelsea (some of his substitutions this year were just ridiculous) but I just wish we could find a long-term coach.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I suppose it would be unfair of me to expect Drogba and Malouda to bother to interfere. Their Chelsea careers are just about over. They owe it to us as fans, yes, hell, they owe it to themselves, but at least they try on the pitch. At least they work hard to earn a first team place and realise and accept that their first team career is nearly over, instead of bitching about it and sacking managers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I don't think the foreign lot, Drogba's mob, were involved. IMO it was entirely the English crew, minus John Terry.But Drogba et al are nearly as bad as them, they're enablers, they stand by and watch it happen and never put a stop to it.The one ray of light from this is that the younger/new players steered well clear of it. Torres, Mata, Romeu, Ramires, David Luiz, Lukaku, even Kalou, etc. would not have gotten involved in this shit and had they had more influence would surely have nipped it in the bud.The English mob minus Cahill then too. Who does it leave? Only Lampard, Cole, Bertrand and Sturridge. AVB is the first one to give Danny his big breakthrough and I doubt he was in it, he is one of the young uns who doesn't have any power (so is Bertrand). AVB stuck through with Terry in this race row, so I have a feeling AVB had the backing of JT, although I'm not entirely sure - he's been quiet in the press for obvious reasons, but who knows what happened behind closed doors. That's too few players in the "English mob", Malouda was definitely in there as well... and probably Mikel.Although that's all just speculation. There's no way of knowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I was a supporter when we almost went down to the old 3rd division but have rarely felt as bad about MY club as I do todayThat's your true, honest, feeling.. and I respect that! ... But I get so wound up when people start blaming players like Lampard, Terry and Cole for sacking the manager because of some ridiculus misunderstanding... and then suddenly, they're saying bad things about them, like "fuck off out of our club" ... Some people have forgotten that these were the players who gave us the glory days... silverware... happiness... domination!I'll never forget those happy moments when I was a Chelsea fan, and for that, I give them respect, not hatred! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 The Wolves fan on fanzone sounds exactly like us...random sacking at a daft time..are the players playing for the shirt or for the dosh etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Lampard and Cole were the biggest culprits I would think. Drogba probably never actively protested against AVB but like capriccoso said he never tried to stop it either. I can see Malouda being a really bad seed behind the scenes. And I don't think JT and Cech were involved.These are just guesses. No one really knows what happened. Just my guess. But I think Lampard was defo involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 He must be laughing out on his way to the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 The Wolves fan on fanzone sounds exactly like us...random sacking at a daft time..are the players playing for the shirt or for the dosh etc3 0 at foolham after an hour ...a portend for the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 He must be laughing out on his way to the bank.Indeed, it's hard to feel sorry for the guy when he's just pocketed £20m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 3 0 at foolham after an hour ...a portend for the futureHe's pretty much said everything we've said on here about their board and players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daBlackMamba7 174 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 That's your true, honest, feeling.. and I respect that! ... But I get so wound up when people start blaming players like Lampard, Terry and Cole for sacking the manager because of some ridiculus misunderstanding... and then suddenly, they're saying bad things about them, like "fuck off out of our club" ... Some people have forgotten that these were the players who gave us the glory days... silverware... happiness... domination!I'll never forget those happy moments when I was a Chelsea fan, and for that, I give them respect, not hatred!But how long are we gonna live on those days?.....How far worse is Liverfail, with the history BS...WTH have our so called legends played all season, they are suppose to still be giving us, not saying that they dont deserve respect, god damnit we have stuck with them through the different managers....If they cant continue giving us, they should leave thats all and not play like crap to soil their legendary status.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 I guess thats one appeal about coming to us..you get the sack you get a load of dosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 The English mob minus Cahill then too. Who does it leave? Only Lampard, Cole and Sturridge. AVB is the first one to give Danny his big breakthrough and I doubt he was in it, he is one of the young uns who doesn't have any power. AVB stuck through with Terry in this race row, so I have a feeling AVB had the backing of JT, although I'm not entirely sure - he's been quiet in the press for obvious reasons, but who knows what happened behind closed doors. That's too few players in the "English mob", Malouda was definitely in there as well... and probably Mikel.We can solve the question easily. Any who publicly agitated, or showed via body language on the bench, that they were angry at being dropped, were most likely involved in the coup. Drogba had been relegated to the bench as early as the February 11, so thats him out. Essien hasn't played in ages and probably appreciates a little extra caring towards his knees. Not sure about Malouda, and I doubt Mikel has any power at all. Kalou's been on the bench for his entire life, and he's not very powerful either. Cech shouldn't have a problem at all, he's gotten good minutes. I would consider Hilario, but imagining him having any influence at all is laughable. We can rule out Bosingwa and Meirieles, the latter probably hasn't built any power and the former was AVB's favourite. One dark horse we haven't considered is Paolo Ferreira, but he's been out for several years now. That leaves us with Ivanovic, who's started fairly often.In summary, Malouda is the only one who gets out of that lot without an excuse. He could have joined forces with Lampard/Cole. There are slight, very slight chances JT could have gotten involved, but that depends on how matey he is with Lampard and Cole, and if he's really going to sack a manager for one of his mates- he wasn't involved in the Scolari Revolution despite Drogba, his friend, being the pissed-off-benched-player in chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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