BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Managing Chelsea is not the same like managing another 'big' club.Everyone in the club has their own views and feel they know what is right for the club.The manager has very little power and control irrespective of past achievements and age.The English media does not like us either and as a result speculate a lot of things which leads to more unrest.So far AVB has done a decent job,considering all the faults in the club and if he can manage to survive this season then I am sure he will be a wonderful manager for any team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I have defended him up until now but today like they have been for the last few weeks the substitutions were all wrong. Meireles was shocking and why he was not sacrificed for Lampard I do not know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Two examples of what happens when the players listen to the coach, and his tatics, and theirs no disruption.At the end of the day we can slate AVB, but the same thing happened last season we were playing like shite, god knows how we managed to finish second.I am not taking the player's side but with Chelsea AvB showed nothing so that he can be called a great coach or even a good coach. In the begining he said that he would assess the squad and within 3 months he came into conclusion that Anelka and Alex are so worthless? Everybody knew us getting the 2nd position under Carlo was purely fluke. Did not he realize that our midfield was pure shit? Still I want to take Andres side just because I want to see an end to this player power regime. But to be very honest Andre is not a good coach. .....Yet. He is not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 It is manager's duty to get a grip over his squad. Things are little bit unfair for AvB because he inherited a bunch of larger-than-club players . But at the end of the he would be responsible for losing it.And this is when I am starting to agree with Sloth, that AVB was a delusional fool thinking he could walk into this club with out little change to the team and expect to do better then Carlo season with almost the same squad.....Players would have more of a respect for Carlo then AVB as he is mainly a rookie.Well hate to say it, but it seems like Graeme Souness and Alen Hansen where right about AVB appointment all along.I will never criticized them ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 Avb worked with Chelsea as well, when Mourinho was in charge...Yeah Its just a shame hes fucking pony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 We need a manager who isnt afraid of upsetting players.Benching them if theyr'e shit regardless of who they can be..but no doubt for that we need an owner who will also understand the reason for the manager benching such players.I mean Lampard got benched...got a bit funny about it then starting playing every single game despite the fact he needed a rest.Torres.Been shite yet seems to start every game..either down to a hope he'll become better or feeling the need he needs to be started due to the 50m costAnd we also need players to get over their issues and play like they mean it!No point going into games with the 'its only so and so attitude' every game a cup final and play how we used to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Ex Chelsea and know the PremershipThat would make Paul Ince outstanding candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 What is needed now is that we should give a treatment to our old guards simillar like what Beckham, Roy Keane, Ronaldinho and Deco had got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I always thought Moyes is a good manager, I bet he would be cheaper and would do better than AVB, but Im sure If we fire him, the board would try another expensive manager, perhaps Capello.Moyes would flop at big job IMHO.He has worked wonders at Everton but Sam Allardyce did similar with Bolton (three top 6 finishes with a squad that cost just over £10m) but still made a pigs ear of it when he got a big job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 He's lost control over the players. Not all of them, but I'm sure Lampard is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 That would make Paul Ince outstanding candidate.Is he doing good stuff with Brighton or Swansea ? No hes without a club, and not ex Chelsea...so stultifying ill informed logic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Although Moyes is a very good shout but i am cynical about appointing a manger from a lower ranked club. Just look at Roy Hodgeson. He did wonders at Fulham and then he failed miserably in Liverpool. Big clubs have big egos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Yeah true and he's doing well at West Brom as well...did like him at Liverpool though...enjoyed them being more shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Is he doing good stuff with Brighton or Swansea ? No the hes without a club, so stultifying ill informed logicHave they been managing in prem more then Andre? At least know what you are talking about if you don't want to look clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 did like him at Liverpool though...enjoyed them being more shitlol . Wont forget his legendary facerub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I am not taking the player's side but with Chelsea AvB showed nothing so that he can be called a great coach or even a good coach. In the begining he said that he would assess the squad and within 3 months he came into conclusion that Anelka and Alex are so worthless? Everybody knew us getting the 2nd position under Carlo was purely fluke. Did not he realize that our midfield was pure shit? Still I want to take Andres side just because I want to see an end to this player power regime. But to be very honest Andre is not a good coach. .....Yet. He is not even close.I'm pretty sure Aelka and Alex handed in transfer requests. I know he hasn't proved to us that he is a good coach in his short time at Chelsea but the things he's done surely counts for something, an average manager doesn't win the Europa league, or goes unbeaten. Although i still don't know why we just bought in Cahill, (i know we bought de bruyne but we sent him on loan again) surely he most of known we wasn't good enough, but oh well, hopefully we can get to 4th and start to rebuild our squad in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,311 Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 Have they been managing in prem more then Andre? At least know what you are talking about if you don't want to look clueless.Yeah because saying Ince is better and played for Chelsea isnt clue less is it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 They got this article in Ukeurosports call: AVB embarks on solo projecthttp://uk.eurosport....-090904072.htmlKinda mess up when you think about it when AVB first press conference for Chelsea he called himself the "Group One" yet now he is looking from the outside with his squad as the lone outlander.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Where We Can Find Manager "With Huevos"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neel 257 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 The current situation is extremly difficult for CFC. For financial reason they can not change their manager on the other hand neither they can kick out 7-8 players to form a new squad that fit AvB's plan of playing free flowing attacking footbal. Nonetheless I am not worried about us going out of UCL next year. Because for next few years on mancs can secure their UCL spots. In coming season Chelsea can fight with Arsenal, Spuds and Pool for the remaining slots, I beleive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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