Chelsea Sack Andre Villas-Boas

[zolayes 14,489]

"9. I feel he got lucky with Porto, simply because the team he inherited was very good, same as what happened in Chelsea when Avram Grant took over"

firstly, I Said I " feel" .... not i "know"

and FACT is that both managers inherited good squads in their respective clubs. AVB'S squad won the europa cup, while avram grant almost won us our first CL.

I really dont understand where you're coming from .... i was just stating a fact, not making an argument without any basis or proof.

I think you didnt like the word "lucky".... well he was fortunate to inherit a good squad.

And as you would have read in my post, i said he did a good job managing porto, and thats great, but a club like chelsea is a completely different and much much tougher scenario, considering every part of our club seems to be in shambles.

"9. I feel he got lucky with Porto, simply because the team he inherited was very good, same as what happened in Chelsea when Avram Grant took over"

firstly, I Said I " feel" .... not i "know"

and FACT is that both managers inherited good squads in their respective clubs. AVB'S squad won the europa cup, while avram grant almost won us our first CL.

I really dont understand where you're coming from .... i was just stating a fact, not making an argument without any basis or proof.

I think you didnt like the word "lucky".... well he was fortunate to inherit a good squad.

And as you would have read in my post, i said he did a good job managing porto, and thats great, but a club like chelsea is a completely different and much much tougher scenario, considering every part of our club seems to be in shambles.

I wish you wouldn't use FACT when it's just your opinion. it is your opinion they both inheritted good squads. And printing FACT doesn't

change the FACT that it is merely your subjective judgement. And that is a Fact using logic.

[The Rising Sun 711]

You could have considered that when you were talking about MON and Sunderland. Selective?

Sunderland, from being talked about as relegation candidates are now flying high.... Martin o'neill is a class manager.... He took players that looked lazy and unmotivated and got them playing good football and winning again.... He deserves the plaudits and as well as being used as an example. In order to make a point, selectiveness is key, as all managers cant work players the same way.

Anyways, that post was what i thought. Moving on.

[eldo 868]

Sunderland, from being talked about as relegation candidates are now flying high.... Martin o'neill is a class manager.... He took players that looked lazy and unmotivated and got them playing good football and winning again.... He deserves the plaudits and as well as being used as an example. In order to make a point, selectiveness is key, as all managers cant work players the same way.

Anyways, that post was what i thought. Moving on.

And as you would have read in my post, i said he did a good job managing porto, and thats great, but a club like chelsea is a completely different and much much tougher scenario, considering every part of our club seems to be in shambles.

[zolayes 14,489]

Sunderland, from being talked about as relegation candidates are now flying high.... Martin o'neill is a class manager.... He took players that looked lazy and unmotivated and got them playing good football and winning again.... He deserves the plaudits and as well as being used as an example. In order to make a point, selectiveness is key, as all managers cant work players the same way.

Anyways, that post was what i thought. Moving on.

Sunderland, from being talked about as relegation candidates are now flying high.... Martin o'neill is a class manager.... He took players that looked lazy and unmotivated and got them playing good football and winning again.... He deserves the plaudits and as well as being used as an example. In order to make a point, selectiveness is key, as all managers cant work players the same way.

Anyways, that post was what i thought. Moving on.

a well presented post

[The Rising Sun 711]

I wish you wouldn't use FACT when it's just your opinion. it is your opinion they both inheritted good squads. And printing FACT doesn't

change the FACT that it is merely your subjective judgement. And that is a Fact using logic.

Isnt that a fact? Do you disagree that they both inherited good squads?

Yes it is my opinion, that i felt it was factual. 1.They did have good squads.

2. They did'nt have good squads

I picked 1.

[kiaretta985 131]

if Roman sacks AVB, then the players will think they have the power to do whatever they want. And this is a thing to avoid.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

if Roman sacks AVB, then the players will think they have the power to do whatever they want. And this is a thing to avoid.

Too late for that, that penny dropped for the players when Scolari was dismissed.

[Santiago. 1,500]

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if Roman sacks AVB, then the players will think they have the power to do whatever they want. And this is a thing to avoid.

Agree, Player power is truly ruining Chelsea

[zolayes 14,489]

Isnt that a fact? Do you disagree that they both inherited good squads?

Yes it is my opinion, that i felt it was factual. 1.They did have good squads.

2. They did'nt have good squads

I picked 1.

I think they both had good squads ,,,In that my opinion coincides with yours but that doesn't make it a FACT

[kiaretta985 131]

Too late for that, that penny dropped for the players when Scolari was dismissed.

right... one more reason to put an end to this

[eldo 868]

Isnt that a fact? Do you disagree that they both inherited good squads?

Yes it is my opinion, that i felt it was factual. 1.They did have good squads.

2. They did'nt have good squads

I picked 1.

Looks like it's pointless discussing with you, because you have already decided about that matter.

Could you explain why that great squad isn't doing well now?

[Fernando 6,585]

For all of the AVB Lovers.... Just have a look at Sunderland as an example.

Under Steve bruce, the same bunch of players who couldnt buy a goal and struggled like second grade footballers, suddenly start playing well the moment A brilliant manager comes in, Martin O'neil.

9. I feel he got lucky with Porto, simply because the team he inherited was very good, same as what happened in Chelsea when Avram Grant took over. Surprisingly, Real madrid or Barca or for that matter any big club didnt swoop in for him after his great season taking us to the verge of CL Victory. Our board took a gamble.

I just want to comment on this.

I think you are wrong, because you are not counting the "new manager effect"

It happens all the time. What is happening now at Sunderland, happen when every manager from Chelsea in the Roman era is fired and a new one is brought.

It takes a couple of months for everything to settle down when the players start regressing and playing like shit.

And last the point can be easily said about Mourinho, Pep and such. They all inherited or had a lot of money to build a good squad.

[The Rising Sun 711]

And last the point can be easily said about Mourinho, Pep and such. They all inherited or had a lot of money to build a good squad.

I Agree,,,, The test for AVB at Chelsea is to inherit a broken team and rebuild it. Since he does not have any previous experience in such a scenario, it will be really tough, and he needs to stand up and be counted.

He does probably have the money though.

[The Rising Sun 711]

Looks like it's pointless discussing with you, because you have already decided about that matter.

Could you explain why that great squad isn't doing well now?

Well Chelsea Squad from then is 4 years older and we have lost some good players from those times.... with the remaining players from 2007-8 fading. Also we suffer as we have a mixed bag of players with too many conflicting styles.

Porto are still doing well without Boas, are 2nd in the league and have only lost 1 game in 18 games this season.

source : http://soccernet.esp...se-liga?cc=4716

[eldo 868]

Porto are still doing well without Boas, are 2nd in the league and have only lost 1 game in 18 games this season.

source : http://soccernet.esp...se-liga?cc=4716

Hahahaha..Laughable. Have you seen them play last season and this? You know that they are 5 pts behind first.