BlueLyon

Hah lol Im officialy drunk and its not even friday yet

Interesting game right now; porto-sevilla Several players like Moreno, Rakitic, Mangala and Sandro to watch...

Maybe I didnt wrote clearly enough, but my point was that we need new LB. I said that if we do buy new LB, but Mourinho decides to still play with Azpi on left and Iva on right, while benching that new LB, I will be pissed. Iva is no where near proper full back to stand behind Willian and Azpi should return to his right side. As for Hazard, I only said that he produces most, while still returning back. I said that because people excuse Oscar's rare creativity due to all the tracking he makes. Oscar will have to be efficient in both defence and more importantly attack if he wants to remain in first 11. Gotze does both, surely Oscar can do it too.

Fifa reported today that besides Ter Stegen, Reus was close to Barca for 30/40 mio but the deal wont go through because of the ban... Wonder where they would put all their attackers...

If we get new LB and Mou keeps Azpi on LB and Ivan on RB, well fuck off. The sole reason Mou is using defenders ahead of attackers is to get positive result. And he is not doing it lately, while still using limited defenders. What I miss in Mou is his will to win. He always went on thin win, but this season he doesnt bother if we lose...when he got that team in 2004, he had spark with most players. Now, we just pretend he will have that same spark with Willian, Oscar, Luiz... Old generation of Ballack, Lamps, Terry, Makelele understood him and his defensive tactics and they got results. Nowdays these players like Hazard want to play possession football. I dunno, hope it will work out well

Yeah that certain, Mou tactics are killin attacking spark in players. It could be big problem and main reason why Mou might not be best for this team. But he made great work back then in inter with Sneijder and Etoo.

Yeah but it will take lot more team work to be better. If Willian is only runner of the team with no attacking skill, we are dead on right side. If Oscar cant make killer passes, we are dead in middle. Hazard remains, but he is well covered. Thats reason we cant break through Palace or Villa defence. They cover Hazard well, while Oscar and Willian wont even try to be more dangerous in attack; either by Mou orderers not to make too much space for opponent or because they dont have ability to be dangerous. I think its the first more possible. Mou wants players to be defenders more than attackers. With someone like Reus instead of Willian (just example) game against Villa or Palace would be won easier. Having to cover on both wings because of Hazard and Reus, we would be more dangerous, even through the middle. But sure, a striker is required too. We will need damn good striker who will take every chance and be able to make goals on his own if Oscar and Willian will be this restricted in final third next season. Costa relies on playerd behind him a lot for example...realy dont have idea what Mou was doing last summer, keeping Torres, loaning Lukaku, not buying Cavani who was expensive but might be the difference of winning title this year...we needed striker one way or another, and there were better options last summer...

Partly agree on that. As much we are better defending, we are average in attack. No runs in free spaces, no creativty, no pattern, no passing triangles, no one-twos. Fullbacks not joining in attacks... Mou needs to at least try something about that. If we play counter football it doesnt mean we have to play with such lack of technique. Look at Bvb last year counter football. Their attacks were joy to watch. Everyone invloving in attacks, defending. Trying to pass, create spaces, make intelligent runs and passes. It takes time though for such play and Mou will have to show it next year.

If thats so, how come Hazard despite all the problems in team, still creates all that? And he aint even #10 + he still tracks back lot. How come Mata who played realy few games got more chances created than Oscar back in january? Willian and Oscar are playing bad and it has to be said even you/I are Chelsea fan. There are situations where those two fuck up easiest passes with their silly dribbles and lose ball. Their thinking and decision making wont change and if they have world class or bad players around. WILLIAN AND OSCAR need to fix things with themselves, their attacking is shocking. Yes they dont have good striker to pass to and dont have backup in full backs or pivot, but there are moments where those two could simply pass to open player, try to take shot, but they end up losing the ball. Its said enough that team lacks ball to take shots, Hazard included. What the fuck is so hard to take a fucking shot? Instead they dribble past five players and end up losing ball 90% of time. Just yesterday, Willian was in good position to take a shot. What did he do? He passed to Oscar. He had chance to shot. What did Oscar do? He passed to Ramires who end up losing the ball. If thats not brilliant well...it wont matter how many world class players we will have, with this thinking Willian and Oscar will still fuck up most of attacks. We are too reliant on Hazard and he aint Messi to be so better than rest of the team. Willian and Oscar are simply that bad. The only thing saving them is their hard working in defence and thats it. But if Oscar recovers ball 10 times and Willian loses it 10 timea after, whats the point?

Average squad? What? We lack striker, one CM short and average bench, BUT we have one of best defences in the world and attacking trio worth 90mio. If anything we are making average results for how much the players cost. Its not Mou blame, its blame of players who cant step the fuck up when they should. We finished 3rd last year with worse team. Its first season for Mou, getting new style, having back SB as fortress and being better in CL, but in league we should finish at least second no matter what. Mou could do better in certain games with tactics and subs, but when Oscar or Willian fuck up all our attacks with their bad decisions, Mou cant do nothing. But in the end of the day, we are now counter attacking team. To have such style efficient you need; 1.) World class striker 2.) Full backs who can attack and defend 3.) CS is based on lot of defending, a good defence is key for tactics to succeed. 4.) CM pair who can spray and transport ball from defence to attack 5.) Attacking trio who makes intelligent runs, good decisions and creates chances. What we have is only point 3. Everything else is still very weak here and needs improvement/investment. When we bought Hazard, Oscar and Willian, we expected point 5 to be completed, but so far Willian and Oscar aint intelligent nor creative enough to make difference on counters.

Besides CM and LB, we need either world class striker ala Cavani/Suarez (unrealistic though) OR good striker ala Costa and world class AM ala Reus. Willian-Oscar-Hazard ------Cavani-------- or Reus-Oscar-Hazard ------Costa------ Money in both cases spend would be around 70mio. With sales of deadwood, potentialy Luiz and Lukaku and money from Mata sale, we have more than enough finances to pull this through. I have feeling Willian, Hazard and Oscar are too reliant on Hazard, while other two just run run and do nothing else. Costa would be alone in such attack if only Hazard was good enough to give him usefull balls.

Being a #10 isnt just about stats. Its about how certain player pushes team forward, creates width, makes chances and dictates tempo. Apart from hard work, Oscar isnt doing anything a #10 would do. While he tracks and press high, he does nothing in final third. He scored few goals, but I would prefer him set up those goals for others, as what #10 should do. He has to step the shit up next season, he is young enough, plays in good team and has good manager. If he wont do it, he needs to be sold. I simply dont want #10 who is nothing more but CM with limited passing. Again, he can improve and I hope he will. The more Im worried is that season passed almost and Oscar is the almost same player he was last year. The only difference is better team around him and better manager. He made good start this season, but apart from that, he realy hasnt improved as #10 one bit.

In case Zouma impress Mou during preseason, Luiz can leave for 30mio. We should keep Lukaku and Etoo as 2nd and 3rd striker. While we must buy Costa/Cavani/xxx as first choice. If Lukaku leaves, use money on Bony. Midfield needs new CM. Cant say who will that be, but someone in mould of Gundogan. LB is required, however as much Shaw is talented, 25mio+ is alot of money and he is quite inexperienced (considering Mou likes older players and wants to win PL/CL next year). But if we get Shaw or Rodriguez/Sandro, I will be more than happy. Last signing should be made in AM area. Yes we have plenty of players and several on loan (Hazard, Piazon, Atsu, Bertrand,...) but Im sure we need a very good AM to strenghten squad. Someone who can add change to the game when brough on. Reus is quite unrealistic, Griezmann too, but Lallana/Lavezzi/Lucas/Quadrado/...could be quite usefull to have in squad to add some competition next to Oscar, Hazard and Willian. Honestly, all top teams have at least 4 top class players for three positions in attack + striker. Rm has Di Maria, Ronaldo, Bale, Isco. Bayern has Robben, Ribery, Gotze, Muller. Barca has Neymar, Pedro, Sanchez, Iniesta(when needed). Psg has Lavezzi, Cavani, Lucas, Pastore, soon to have Griezmann. We dont cut it with only Hazard, Oscar and Willian. Schurrle or Salah ain on that level. Plus we need a player who can add width to the game. Maybe sell Schurrle +15mio to Bvb for Reus... We will have plenty of money from the sales of deadwood. Keep only Lukaku, Etoo and potentialy Luiz, but sell other unnecessary players. Maybe even bring someone like Piazon back. Courtois needs to stay, he gets better and better, while Cech slowly loses it. If possible keep them both, if not sell Cech (sad, but best for the team). Cech, Courtois Azpi, Iva, Terry, Cahill, Zouma/Luiz, new LB Matic, Ramires, Ginkel, Lamps?, new CM Hazard, Oscar, Willian, Salah, Schurrle, new AM New ST, Lukaku, Etoo

90% Psg wont let him go...

Generaly Im only dissapointed with how much we paid for several players and how little we got from them... And you mentioned we have spirit and fight? The games vs small teams show we have motivation for big games only. That has to change; Willian, Hazard and Oscar need to play more connected against small teams. I wouldnt agree that if fans rage after defeat they arent real fans. Its quite opposite. Im pissed right now because we played so bad and I hate us lose and see us play this bad. I will support us no matter what and even if we will play in championship or be the best team in the world, after every defeat where we will show no spirit, I will rage because of dissapointment. Im not impatient, but passionate when comes to chelsea. Psg was better than us, we played bad second half, Mou couldnt do anything, our expensive players didnt deliver. Next week, we play 2nd half and we can win, but will be hard. Much harder, we could do better in paris. Its time for players to show their worth next week at Sb. They will show the spirit, fighting and motivation. I hope they will.

No fucking way. Matic is already DM. We dont need to play two DMs. The other should be creative, more offensive allround CM ala Gundogan.

Our bench is fucking useless. Psg with the likes of Pastore and Lucas who raped us while our first team attackers cant do shit. Even if we had Salah he would do nothing. Not this game in particular, but when Schurrle comes of the bench he should do what Pastore/Lucas did tonight. Inspire team and improve it. Not just dissapear... time to get striker, Reus, CM and LB. Sell all the deadwood to fund the buys. If we paid 50mio for Willian and Schurrle, we can pay for Reus who will for change at least do something and be worth of the price.

I said in most games. There were also good games like City, Arsenal, Gala home,... We played 2/3rd of the team defenders vs Crystal ffs. When you play pivot of Matic-Luiz vs Crystal you would think they have 5 Messi's and our defence needs extra cover from pivot ffs. And why didnt Mou tried Cole- Azpi as full backs more times? As I said, Mou made from offensive players a defensive team. Thats why we are good in defence, but (usualy) bad in attack. I stand behind Mou, but wont hide to point the problems he and team still has.

Those two players cost us 50 mio. I would expect better from such professionals. They are here for several seasons and should step the fuck up. Willian, Oscar, Schurrle cost us 75mio. You expect better for that money. Honestly, we look like average massively overpriced team atm. Matuidi and Verratti cost 17 fucking mio!!!! We play sooo shit for the money we spent its ridiculous. Azpi, Hazard, Matic and defenders. Thats it. Everything else we overpaid and they still dont deliver fucking pussies (sorry for the rage, but when you throw 30mio for Willian, 20 for Shirley, 25 for Oscar, 25 for Luiz, 20 for Ramires, 50 for Torres you EXPEXCT LITTLE BETTER FROM THEM!). I dont think we can play barca or bayern style, but tonight or vs Aston Villa, Palace,...was simply shit. No more fucking excuses. If I paid 10mio for 19 y.o. Verratti, I would give him all the time and patience he needs. But when you buy 25 y.o. Willian for 30mio you wont give him 2 seasons of adapting ffs. If I buy Cavani or Bale, I expect at least very good performances from them. If I buy Willian, I expect certain level of performance from him. And by now it looks like he is on the level of Heskey in final third jesus fucking christ. Same goes for Oscar and everyone else. They cant step the fuck up and everyone is giving excuses to give them time. Willian is 25. Maybe we should wait until he is 30 and then he will have one good season before retiring. He cost certain money and certain level is expected from him. Period.

Mourinho is overrating every oponent we play against. We have quality squad but he goes extremely defensive in most games. He lost winning mentality that he had before. He never played beautiful football, but got the result in most games. He doesnt have the balls to say we go all out against aston villa or West ham from first minute. Second problem are our players. No imagination, no balls, no creativity, no consistancy, no determination, motivation, desire, spark whatsoever. The players dont improve. We bought Schurrle because he was threat from distance. Have you seen him taking long shots here? We bought Willian because he was rick-rolling opponents in Shakhtar. He made the look like fools...even us in CL. Did he do that here? How many times did he dribble past few players and made superb assist for Shakhtar? And how many for Chelsea? Oscar as #10, I have no idea what is the point of him playing there. He is like CM playing high on the pitch and cant make any kind of threat in attack. Wont go in pivot debate, because clearly we need new CM. Our game has no width, Pastore who is generaly shit player made stunnig run tonight, cant imagine any of our attackers could do that bar Hazard. They dont have balls to do it. I dont know if its problem in players, or Mourinho, maybe they just need time, but it will be damn important for them to improve come next season. Because at this rate getting someone like Reus isnt that crazy. We cant perform in attack to save our lives and thats terrible. It isnt one game, its been like that for whole season with few very very good games. We didnt even tried to score in second half. I question what Mou is saying to the players. In the past only win was option for him and he was great motivator, tried risky but efficient subs, something we yet have to see this season. Im sick of watching us getting bitchslapped every second game because we play like bunch of pussies. Its first season for Mou, but next season will come and I feel Willian, Oscar and co wont change much apart from few new signings...Luiz and Rambo are here for several seasons now and they dont improve either. Apart from defence, nothing has realy improved and become consistant. Attack is toothless, while midfield (even with Matic) isnt on level yet. And I realy wonder if its good thing to spend 25mio+ on 18year old full back Shaw when we need more mature, prime age players to lead the team.

He realy needs better player next to him...willian and Oscar simply dont understand him...combinations between them are dreadfull.

What I miss in our buys is that players dont develop but stagnate. Schurrle isnt better than he was in bayer. Willian isnt better than he was in shakhtar. Schurrle doesnt even try to score from distance, not even once! Willian isnt trying to be the creator, just run run dribble... Verratti, Matuidi,...have all become better players in Psg. Cant say the same for several players we bought.

Well then for all the money we spent on willian, hazard, schurrle and Oscar, we should do better in attack. Period. Its ridiculous that we play so shit with all the investment. Not to mention the defensive tactics...we dont even try to do anything, just bypass the whole game, no one gives a fuck...

We dont have spirit and for all the money we spent on willian, Oscar, Luiz, Schurrle,...we should do miles better. The fact Psg played bad and still got us 3:1 down is saying a lot. Its not over yet, but for the investments we made, it was a terrible game by us. Mou is loosing his winning mojo and its not a good thing. Even if we have world class team for 1bn, Mou will still go on draw. I doubt we will ever dominate and control the game on regular basis. The inconsistancy and lack of improvement in certain players like Willian, Luiz etc is concerning.

Is he fit for Psg?