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The good thing about United going downhill is that Rooney would want out next season. We can then get him! :blue scalf:

Don't get ahead of yourself. We are not ready, Mourinho even said it. I hate it when people get cocky like this for no reason at all. For crying out loud Mourinho does not even know what is his strongest starting 11!

No is not that, is that SAF was more important then the team. This is the only real problem of having such a big manager in your team. As soon he leaves the total team is totally shit!

Like I said, it's not the same United without SAF. I think this time it's really over for United. No matter how many teams compete for the tittle it tends to always be 2 at the end. In this case it will be City and Chelsea. United can no longer keep up without a big manager like SAF. United times is up just like Liverpool decades ago after their big manager also left. And then slowly descend into mediocrity.

I remember when the Belgians fan base where telling us that KDB will take Oscar spot and all that. Now look how things have changed?

Yeah Pellegrini is a real good coach. He is a very attack minded coach, which is why I respect him a lot. I think this is the style that Mourinho wants to play as well, but we are not ready. Not sure how long it will take, but when we get there we shall have two good teams going head to head in England.

This is not the same without SAF. United to me does not seem like the force they where before....well not exactly but that fight in them does not seems to radiate. That fight that will also be transmitted from SAF. We are starting to see the real change of guard. United no longer the team to dominate or be scared about from the Manchester side, but City. City are now for me the real deal with a much better manager. Never really took them serious with Mancini, and now with SAF gone City are in better position to concentrate their power. Especially when you got a coach like Moyes that does not gives you much confidence as SAF did.

That was a really good goal. Don't know what Moyes done not going with out RVP. What has happen to Chicharito? Have not really hear much about that guy in some time.

I would be surprised if he is meaning Mata as a winger cause that is wrong. I really think Mourinho will move Oscar to the double pivot and thus Mata can play in the advance role.

That's not the feeling I got from that post match interview. He said he is not ready to change Oscar position. Meaning it is the one we have been thinking where Oscar could play in the double pivot....in fact he mention how Oscar was doing with Mikel like Parker and Sidwell where doing in the double pivot role. He sees that but that he is not ready to make this changes. It is still clear that Mata will continue to be our number 10 for the future while Oscar will be that deep lying playmaker we thought he could be. He has all the attribute to play there. For crying out loud Lampard has been playing it the last season, why Oscar can't?

What has happen to this dude?

@Barbara No I was mad at him because I thought he was not good anymore after the Real Madrid last year. Just like Mourinho view, I also feel the same. You are as good as your last few games. So from Madrid till now I had not seen anything great. Except in this last game against Fulham, where in the second half I finally got to see what he is truly intending to do. The high pressing game against Fulham was a first sign of what is to come. Mourinho truly is bent on shaping this team into an attacking team but with a balanced to it. I was mostly worried that we had picked the wrong guy to shape our new philosophy but after today game and his last post match conference I'm excited again. As I thought it was wrong to take this team and shape it into a counter attacking team, and this is not what Mourinho has in mind. We will continue with what the club and the owner wants which is good.

You guys want to know why our fans are so impatient? Well because of this: "History doesn't play. The past is the past and you have to be judged on what you do now," added Mourinho after Chelsea ended a dismal run of three consecutive defeats in three different competitions. When even the manager we have says such a thing, of course our fans going to be arrogant and high demanding as the manger himself also demands it! This is good cause we want the best of the best. Don't want to be like Arsenal that holds unto their manager despite winning shit in years because of his past.

Thanks for the vid of Chelsea TV. Not sure if anyone caught this but in the post match analysis that Mourinho said he mention something very important. In that what was the point of doing high crosses when Ivan would get the ball? And this is exactly what I been furious for the last season. When we started playing with RDM last season I would be dumbfounded why Cech would continuously kick the ball up high when he knew our players was small. And this always led to us giving away the possession. Similar when Ivan would do those crosses into the area, no one will be there cause our team is very small. Glad he notice this, because this was a major problem for us the last season. This cost us silly possession of the ball.

I think he hinted that he will eventually move Oscar to that role for the pivot. But that Mata needs to do some work before he can go back to the number 10 role. I believe that is his vision if I'm not mistaken. As well with Van GInkel. It would be Oscar-Van Ginkel in the double pivot role. But for now they are not ready so it seems like Mikel will do. That is the sense I got from looking the last game with the high pressing game and what he said afterwards. I hope it is cause it looks very exciting.

Oh okay I see. I'm fact it looks like Mourinho is thinking just like that. I remember when we used to say if Oscar can play in double pivot? Well I think that is what Mourinho will push for eventually. Oscar would be like the xavi alonso playing in the mid helping out the dm but also adding creativity. And mata our main 10. I think Mourinho wants mata to be a bit more aggressive like Oscar so he can help us when we need to press in the high line.

Really good. Now I got the good vibe with him again. I was mostly worried that he was trying to destroy an attacking team. But it's not like that. He is working on individual base to better each player. To be fair I did got frustrated about Mata in the past when he would get lost during matches where opponent attack and press us. I do think Mourinho wants Mata for the long term as well. If he is truly bent on being more attacking he will be key. Just that he needs to fix a couple of things to his game.

Good game today, but I still feel he is filling the spot till Mourinho can get Van Ginkel in there. Sort of like Varane at Real Madrid. But other then that congratz on the goal, deserved it!

I don't care about him scoring. Well I take that back, yes happy just like Roman was but I was more happy to see the high lineup that Mourinho put in the second half. This is what I want to see, as the high line when perfected will help us keep better possession of the ball and be a more attacking team. This is what I was doubting about Mourinho, and I think Roman too at a certain point. But Mourinho made the tactical changes and showed us that it now looks promising from looking bleak a couple of minutes ago.

Me I doubted him. But he has done good. I'm really impress! Not much in the scoring goal but in the second half where we play a high line. That is very offensive and that is what I wanted to see. Before that everything was so dull and boring, but when he put out the team like this everything changed. Do it again!

This is great. Thank god the team and Mourinho made me up my words. I'm no longer worried. Bring the next game!

Wait what? I thought we where discussing for number 10? CM next to Mikel is another role right?

This is great. Thank god the team and Mourinho made me up my words. I'm no longer worried. :blue scalf:

Yeah I see now. What really has changed is the high pressing game which was more better. I see that Oscar is able to sit back and help with the high pressing game where as to Mata he could not do it. But in terms of creativity Mata is still top. However Oscar is more rounded for all type of games. In games where we really need to boss the opposition I think Mata will come good. But in more tactical games Oscar seems to be number one.

Good good, this is good!