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Offer Klopp 30m plus some Jacobs crackers.... should accept that.

Another kid we could have potentially had for free but no we will have to pay at least 10-15m for..

I reckon he'll get 15 goals this year in all competitions at least. Hes more than capable, so lets just see how it goes.

If Real Madrid are willing to spend 40m on Illarramendi then I'd be more than happy to spend 40m on Gundogan. Twice the player Illarra is. Ilkay made Madrid's midfield look abysmal vs Dortmund, over both legs he was superb..

ITS AN OUTRAGE, THE WORLD IS GONNA END!!!!!! JOSE WALKED OUT OF HIS PRESSER THE WORLD IS TEMPTED TO EAT ITSELF AHHWTIATWBHTASTIASS RUNNNNNNNNN Thats what the media are making it out to be like, well not really, I just thought I'd do that. What a twat I am. Anyway the media are tools, always will be, ask Jose questions about Mata (like usual ) or about the team, simple.

foooooooootball is so gooood

Sure sometimes hes out of position trying to press the ball but thats because hes exposed at times.

I never said its bullshit, I just said Mikel doesn't need to do more than what hes already doing. He does his role well and its important to the team.

What do you want from a holding midfielder? Do you understand their role in the team? They are there to break up play, fill gaps when CBs go up the field, offer an option for their team mates in possession and ultimately RETAIN POSSESSION. He doesn't have to 'hurt the opponents' with his passing. I'm sick of all this bullshit he has to 'hurt opponents' as you put it, with his passing. Even against Spurs he played 3 class long passes that we nearly got chances from but no thats not threatening an opponent? When AVB arrived as our coach he talked about his philosophy to some journalist, talked about his how he likes his defensive midfielder be able to surprise opponents and play long diagonals to the full backs/wingers and since Sergio Busquets plays passes that take out 4 or 5 players a time, its set the standard ridiculously high for a holding midfielder I feel. I think some people need to settle down with all these expectations for holding midfielders, Mikel does his job very well, hes one of the best in the PL, we are so much more calmer with him in the team. Hes been vital for our team for years, if you can't see it then I don't know.

I seen 'Mata has looked average in the CL for a while now' somewhere and now I've lost all faith in this thread. Best player vs Nordsjaelland in both games last season, probably against Shakhtar in one of those two games as well. In that 3-0 loss vs Juventus he and Oscar were our brightest players too. Biggest influence in most of our games in Europe since he arrived bar Drogba's performances vs Bayern, vs Napoli and both legs vs Barcelona. If people don't start appreciating Mata now for what he truly is they never will.

Won't hear me say this very often but start Torres......

Tbh if Torres is getting a 3 game ban extension for the red he got where one yellow was that stupid 'scratch' as people are calling it, then why didn't Vertonghen not get a second yellow for shoving Torres (when he won a free kick for holding Torres shirt by the way)? I've looked at the Torres thing about 50 times now, it looks stupid but he doesn't really scratch as what is being made out, there is no mark left on Jan Vertonghen's face... plus when Vertonghen floored Rami when he was effectively clean through, he should have seen red, utter wank performance from the ref in the second half even though its perhaps not all his fault as Jose said as Vertonghen was holding his head and perhaps dived for Torres' first yellow (everyone says its a Torres trip but he doesn't break his stride when hes running by the looks of it). Anyway Vertonghen is a defender, he's playing in a position where you are the least likely to see a player dive but what does he do, fucking dive. Absolute shambles. Also I don't if Torres doesn't score 30 goals a season, if he plays like he did second half whenever he plays, I will be immensely happy. Best performance in a Chelsea shirt for me. He had fire in his belly, he wanted to be involved, he wanted to take people on, he honestly had Vertonghen and Dawson shitting themselves until CUNT got him sent off. Obviously since its Nando we can't expect that every week or perhaps ever again haha but if he can play that well for a prolonged period of time then great. Mourinho is more than capable of motivating players as we've seen before in his career so who knows? But I doubt it very much sadly.

Yet some people say he only passes backwards/sideways loooooooooooooooooooooool

I think at the moment they are relying heavily on the good form of Mertesacker, Ramsey, Ozil and Giroud. Those 4 are carrying Arsenal at the moment. If we can stop Ozil, Ramsey and Giroud I have a feeling we will easily beat them.

Chelsea played good for 20 or 30 minutes against a newly promoted side who were all over the place in those 20-30 minutes. As mentioned by many people on here, De Bruyne was almost invisible against a League 1 team. For someone who has got something special and always able to create chances he was very very poor. He needs to wait and prove himself, unlike at Bremen and Genk where he was arguably the best player. It meant his standards could slip still and he'd play 90 minutes as they didn't have anyone better to use. Being at a big club that will have to change. Hes playing for his next minutes in the team. He doesn't offer anything that we don't already have either, he isn't a winger, he's an attacking midfielder, plays in between the lines, might start on the right but primarily comes inside to link up with Mata/Oscar/whoever in comparison to Schurrle who is a winger. Like Mourinho did at Madrid he had: Ronaldo - Ozil - Di Maria. - Ronaldo played as an inside forward/inverted winger who did the odd bit of work defensive at times but not very much. - Ozil played the number 10 role made himself available to take the ball from the pivot. - Di Maria played as a winger, offering width but most importantly he ran back helping Arbeloa out. I think hes trying to recreate that at Chelsea with Hazard - Oscar - Schurrle, Hazard playing a role similar to Ronaldo's obviously with a bit more off the ball work, Oscar playing the #10 role but in the industrious way like he does for Brazil pressing high up and Schurrle offering width, running back to help Ivanovic. Sure he can get the same from Mata on the right and Kevin on the right as well and I think we will see Mata in that role more with Schurrle coming on at times to stretch teams when we are too narrow. Obviously Mourinho played low block at Madrid and on the counter but he's changing his philosophy, he wants a high block and high pressing so perhaps Kevin also has work to do with his defensive input as well as his offensive input. He ran so many miles in the Bundesliga last year but that was last year.

Fucking hate seeing players do this, never mind one of our loanees. Disgraceful stuff, no wonder he did it though Diego Simeone is his manager, guy is a thug, always will be.

I've made too many transfers already, I'd probably have a billion more points if I wasn't so impatient with players.... now if I go to put Ramsey in my team I bet you he breaks his leg next week or something... also taking Hazard out now bet he decides to score a hattrick next game too..

Ruining De Bruyne? I thought Jose was perhaps going to ruin Mata but based on what I seen vs Swindon and Spurs, he's improved his overall game. Sure some teams set up with a lot protection in midfield so certain players can wander and do whatever they want but how good was it to see Mata change and see him pressuring the ball when we lost it giving we have seen a very lazy Juan Mata in terms of off the ball work? I wasn't happy with Oscar starting as a 10 and Mata out the team as we lost quality but I got it. We might lack a bit of quality but at least we can press high up and put a lot of pressure on. Maybe its the same with Kevin? Chelsea haven't ruined anyone, Lukaku will come back here next summer as a 21 year old, going to a World Cup after scoring close to 15-20 goals for Everton, he'll come back a better player as he was playing regular games week in week out, as opposed to 2 games a month. The same with Courtois, Kevin can do the same if he works harder, as based on how he played vs United and Swindon he has a lot of work to do. Also a journalist has confirmed that Kev isn't happy about training with the u21s.. also stuff on who wanted to sign him this summer.

I'd like to have seen him in the squad tbh but Mourinho told the media he wasn't impressed with Kevins performance vs Swindon, where he was quite bad. Kevin has said in numerous interviews he'd fight for his place so he must do this, Mourinho also mentioned before the Spurs game he'd have to work very hard and play for his next appearance so the balls in Kevins court obviously, up to him to work hard, like Mata had to do but obviously the fact Kevin has been nailed on first choice at Genk and Bremen hasn't really helped him as he was guaranteed a start at both clubs. I've not been too impressed with him since the first 35 minutes of the Hull game tbh, needs to step it up when hes in the team, he was good in pre-season but thats pre-season. Hes a good player but he needs to show his worth to Jose and train better than Mata, Hazard, Schurrle, Willian and Oscar.. obviously difficult for him to build up any consistency when hes playing once every 3 games or something but still he has to do it. Also zyzz mate, you could argue that when we go to try and get the ball back that someone like Schurrle with his pace is much better for it that and perhaps thats behind Jose's thinking at times when he weighs up the selection. The way Jose is trying to get us to play without the ball is good, we needed to do that at times last year and even under AVB. In terms of quality perhaps Kevin edges Andre but Andre isn't as bad as some people have made out, he was an ideal signing for depth and part of Jose's philosophy.

KDB won't be in the squad tomorrow. Mourinho said hes training with the u21s. Torres must start, if he plays half as well as he did against Spurs he will score a goal or two. Must win this, get our CL campaign started.

Lampard was at fault for Spurs goal not Mikel. Mikel was pressuring the ball, they work it to Eriksen who turns Lamps far too easily...

I can. Abramovich's mate said to him "I'm selling all my expensive players at Anzhi because I'm sick of them. Spurs want Willian." Roman replies "Willian eh? How much? 10m? 20m? 30m? Ok heres 30m, tell his agent Jose wants him, tell him he will play in the Champions League, tell him he will play despite the fact we have 5 other attacking midfielders, Andre never done well here so lets steal his ideal signing." Its just Abramovich flashing the cash pointlessly, showing Chelsea can sign whoever they want for however much and to get one up on Spurs. £30m that could have been used to try and tempt Ilkay Gundogan or Modric or someone else who is similar and needed much more. Ultimately I think Jose thinking Spurs are a title contender has a lot to do with it too but I bet this move was probably one Abramovich wanted more than Jose. Still on De Bruyne, unlike at Genk, Bremen and with Belgium he isn't the best right winger/attacking midfielder we have. He needs to wait and fight like he said in that interview. When he gets the chance he has to do better than how we done against Swindon but its hard to build up momentum playing once every now and then which is why he has to impress when he gets a chance to stay in the team.

What.......................... just stop mate If Sturridge had played like that you'd be in the Sturridge thread saying we've made a mistake for the 100530603th time, his second half performance was brilliant. Which striker has played that well in the PL?

hardly his fault Lloris made a good save

double post.. triple post actually wow fuckkkkkk