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If we sold Rami and he would sit on the bench I'd take him, no way he'd start over Matic or Cesc though. Think hes probably not even as good as Ramires but hes a bit more rounded in comparison to Rami.

Hes a good player but I can't believe Jose thought he'd be ready after one season on loan last year. Hes not at Chelsea quality yet and he still needs another loan spell where he will play at least 60 or 70% of the games as opposed to sitting on the bench at a club that will get relegated then needs to have his situation re-evaluated again. I'd rather have seen him playing at a club like Watford again or Reading or Cardiff - someone who's challenging for promotion or even just a mid table club as opposed to trying to avoid relegation in the PL which usually prompts managers to go for more experienced players.

His positioning is dodgy, its not too bad being a box to box midfielder as the sole responsibility of protecting the back 4 isn't on him and Juventus always have 3 central midfield players but imagine him being used as a holding midfielder? He has a lot to improve on positionally.

Re the whole goals = performances argument thingy. Hazard's individual performances weren't an issue as much last season. Eden said himself he wants to score more goals, make more assists and Jose has wanted him to 'decide' games more and his father (or step father whoever it was) wants Jose to get Eden to have some sort of ruthless side in him on the pitch. If he is going to be nominated for a top 3 place in the Ballon d'or shortlist in the next few years he needs much more goals and assists because Messi and Ronaldo are scoring 40+ a season each and creating at least 10-20 goals and hes not gonna win while they are still at a very high level it if he can't match those numbers lets be realistic.

Hes a bit poor positionally in all honesty, he's a great athlete and has great technique but hes 21 or 22, when you're 21 or 22 you are still learning and can improve on various aspects. I can't see him being a holder.

In a midfield 3 where he has a holder behind him and another player to share responsibilities with him yes maybe hes fine but in a midfield 2 considering we play with a #10? He'd be a liability in my eyes, very much like Toure with Fernandinho last season.

Medical staff should be ashamed of themselves, could they go any fucking slower at one point? I mean when two professional footballers have to go get involved to speed things up as well just shows that some of these people, who are being entrusted with professional athletes (who are people with families first and foremost) health and wellbeing if they need their assistance, need to have a long hard fucking look at themselves. Sure it was only a cut in the mouth and many might feel I'm overreacting a bit but imagine if it was much much more severe say like what happened to Fabrice Muamba when he had heart issues on the pitch or even something like Petr's head injury. These guys need to be fucking quick and quite frankly I'd be embarrassed if the med team at the Bridge took that long to get on the park to see to an injury. Good to see Kurt's ok and its nothing major.

Really? Ask Choulo what he thinks of Pogba potentially playing as a sitting midfielder, or other Juventus fans who watch him regularly.

Mikel and Matic gives Cesc even more freedom I feel, he obviously has to muck in and do defensive work but with two number 6's in the team I feel we have an even better platform to build on.

Sure since he made his debut when he was 16 or 17 years old, he has been injured frequently for maybe a combined total of 7 months out of 5 years? So yeah is he 'injury prone' then, is he really? No he is not. It is a bullshit opinion and I think I also seen you post in the Reus thread that Reus is also injury prone too when in reality he really isn't.

Disappointed because he isn't a similar sort of player, its like saying I want to replace Hazard with Mats Hummels. Pogba plays box to box or sometimes as a more advanced midfield player not as a holding midfield player.

It is but I think also the structure of English football doesn't help managers as much as it could, teams in Spain, Holland, Germany have B teams which play in a lower league which is at a higher level of football than say U21 football and give their players more competitive football and makes the step to the first team a bit more easier. Obviously Jose obviously isn't the best manager in terms of introducing youth either but there aren't very many managers in England that actually introduce youth as much as say Pep did at Barca or van Gaal did at Bayern.

Just get the job done first then we can talk about using youth from the bench. We have other players to use as well who haven't been as regular as they would have liked (Cech, Zouma, Salah, Schurrle, Ramires, Mikel, Remy) before even considering using youth. I'm all for introducing youth in gradually but we have to rotate the team and give those who could be used in the next month or so minutes so they are in a good enough condition and performance level to come in/start if needed to. Obviously after seeing Loftus-Cheek v Sporting I'd like to see a bit more of him but I can't see him being in the squad, Ake should hopefully be in there and get some minutes be it as a LB or CM.

When we announced we were signing Diego Costa. Ok its not exactly a 'moment' in the same way Mikel's backheel is or his goal against Arsenal is but the guy has been a brilliant signing, winding everyone up, playing for the cause and ultimately looking like he doesn't give a fuck who it is he's squaring up to. When was the last time we had that in a player???

I have to be honest, I had a problem with what you said because quite frankly it was bullshit. Hes not injury prone, hes had a bad year in terms of injuries but he was injured by OTHER PLAYERS not himself - which can happen to anybody, not by overtraining or being too fragile like Wilshere due to an excessive amount of muscular injuries due to his dinosaur of a coach's training techniques and methods. Jesus some people.

When people say they we someone who can fill Matic's boots when hes not in the team and then name Pogba I am bitterly disappointed to be honest.

Na I think the same as what Bir_CFC just posted, he does force it, making wrong decisions too often. Oscar's is a bit inconsistent still too but he makes the right choices more often than not. I think Oscar's a superior player in terms of his all round game and in the final third Oscar is better.

3 top bracket CM players when you play 4-2-3-1... pure disaster waiting to happen. I mean we couldn't keep Mata, Schurrle, De Bruyne, Oscar and Willian in the same squad because all 5 were more than good enough to be regulars but yeah lets not learn from our mistakes. Although Ramires is still a classy player and one of the better MF players in the PL, lets sell him to Juve and sign an up and coming great player who is probably marginally better but not exactly an upgrade on one of Cesc or Matic... yeah man seems like a waste of money.

Kompany being world class is a myth to me man. I mean some of the shit Demichelis was being blamed for last season was his fault but some of the goals they conceded trying to play an offside trap, everyone except Kompany at times where stepping up and playing the same line, or the back 4 was in a decent line and he was stepping up and trying to intercept it (ironically enough like David Luiz at times) exposing his partner. Its a funny world, players like Demichelis were being made out to be a weak link playing next to Kompany but when Kompany was out of the team injured like the game against Norwich in particular, Demichelis was exceptional and he was marshalling the back 4 and they successfully caught the Norwich striker offside so many times by all being in sync and stepping up when he did. Not saying Demichelis is great but he's hardly shite, although I did say last season I thought he looked pretty awful numerous times.

Well I don't want to come on and post 3 billion swear words but I might just do it one fucking day. Anyway yeah being injured because of other professionals injuring you doesn't make you injury prone. Totally agree. Still dont get why people think otherwise.

Yeah its just the way it is. People say such and such saying player X is great or a very good dependable CB then 2 games after player X is the worst thing out and should be replaced by player Y because 'he's in better form' although player Y has only started maybe 5 times for club Z in lesser games. I said it before and I'll say it again, Gay Cahill will never be a world class or anything close to it. People need to stop thinking he can be, John Terry and Rio Ferdinand have been the only world class English CBs in the last 10 years and that speaks volumes not only about Gary Cahill but the quality of English CBs in those 10 years. I'd still rather have a solid and reliable Gary Cahill ahead of most other center backs in the premier league except for Laurent Koscielny who in my eyes is up there with JT as the best in the league. Don't see how Kompany is regarded as the best when there was moments last season where Martin Demichelis was outperforming him.

Would of been better if it said 'there is mo need to be upset'

Hahahahaha injury prone??? Honestly? He suffered a ACL injury which ruled him out for about 6 months and then he recovered from it and gets injured in training half a year after it due to another player injuring him.... Someone who is injury prone in my eyes is someone who is repeatedly suffering from the same injuries like Jack Wilshere (constant ankle&thigh injuries), Diaby (basically a full body injury since he was born), Thiago Silva (lots hamstring injuries in last 3-5 years) etc. Its not like Marco has missed huge parts of his career due to injury is it?

I think PSG could beat us to be honest despite having a tendency to give a lead away (no coincidence with David Luiz playing in their defense) in their domestic league but that means nothing when it comes to Europe I suppose look at Dortmund. Think in 5 of their 7 draws in the league they have been ahead and conceded so they are perhaps a bit more suspect at the back but still they are a good offensive team. Ibra is doing what Ibra does consistently year on year, Cavani has scored half of their CL goals and Lucas Moura has been a different player. Difficult game but should be good.

Hes been very very inconsistent this season in comparison to last which I think shows he isn't at that level to be a Chelsea player... yet. He still needs time, he could give Oscar a run for his money but Oscar is much much better in terms of decisions and his final ball seems more consistent than Barkleys right now. I've seen Isco's name floated about this thread and other ones recently and I'm not gonna lie, he would be some signing.